In a message dated 12/17/2002 2:12:23 PM Central Standard Time, PHB4MI@aol.com writes: > Is there anyone on this list who could please give me some practical > information on how I would be able to transfer FTM 7 files from a desktop > PC > to a laptop? I have Windows 95 and FTM 7 on my desktop. I am considering > buying a laptop, but, I am getting conflicting advice from the sales people > > who are selling laptops on how I can move my Genealogy files from my old PC > > to a new laptop. > > If there is anyone on this list who has personally done this, successfully, > > I would so greatly appreciate hearing from you. > > Patricia, It is very simple if you have a Zip Drive or a writable CD drive. Just copy your family file to the a Zip disk or a CD and then, after you have installed FTM on your laptop, just copy the family file from the Zip disk or CD to the hard drive on the laptop. My laptop has a CD drive and I bought an attachable Zip drive that plugs into the computer. Good luck, Mary Sue Schnell

AOL Security Group This is the file that we spoke about. I have reason to believe it is a trojan or virus of some sort. Please advise me after your formal investigation.

Dear Patricia: When you install FTM to your new laptop, transferring your gen info is a very simple process. It involves exporting a GEDCOMFILE onto a floppy disc and then importing it in the new computer. I don't really see any problems with this. Hope this helps Susan Warner Saginaw, Michigan In a message dated 12/17/2002 3:12:23 PM, PHB4MI@aol.com writes: > Subj: [MISAGINA] FTM files > Date: 12/17/2002 3:12:23 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:PHB4MI@aol.com">PHB4MI@aol.com</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com">MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com">MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Is there anyone on this list who could please give me some practical > information on how I would be able to transfer FTM 7 files from a desktop > PC > to a laptop? I have Windows 95 and FTM 7 on my desktop. I am considering > buying a laptop, but, I am getting conflicting advice from the sales people > > who are selling laptops on how I can move my Genealogy files from my old PC > > to a new laptop. > If there is anyone on this list who has personally done this, successfully, > > I would so greatly appreciate hearing from you. > Patricia

GEDCOM file would be easiest. I just transfered my files to a laptop...I love it!!!!!! Email me at WoWc_d@chartermi.net, if you want more help with it. Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: <PHB4MI@aol.com> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] FTM files > Is there anyone on this list who could please give me some practical > information on how I would be able to transfer FTM 7 files from a desktop PC > to a laptop? I have Windows 95 and FTM 7 on my desktop. I am considering > buying a laptop, but, I am getting conflicting advice from the sales people > who are selling laptops on how I can move my Genealogy files from my old PC > to a new laptop. > > If there is anyone on this list who has personally done this, successfully, > I would so greatly appreciate hearing from you. > > Patricia >

Is there anyone on this list who could please give me some practical information on how I would be able to transfer FTM 7 files from a desktop PC to a laptop? I have Windows 95 and FTM 7 on my desktop. I am considering buying a laptop, but, I am getting conflicting advice from the sales people who are selling laptops on how I can move my Genealogy files from my old PC to a new laptop. If there is anyone on this list who has personally done this, successfully, I would so greatly appreciate hearing from you. Patricia

Try This http://www.rootsweb.com/~miclinto/restore.htm Al Galloway ----- Original Message ----- From: <Anlpnnomore@aol.com> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: [MISAGINA] ST JOHNS MICHIGAN > Can sks send info on Clinton twp. St Johns Mi. Looking for Birth Cert.TIA > Jan > >

Can sks send info on Clinton twp. St Johns Mi. Looking for Birth Cert.TIA Jan

Hi everyone - I've been catching up on paperwork that built up over the 18 months my file was down and I came across this letter, circa approx 1906 about the marriage of Belle Wallace and R Chatfield. I thought (since the list is slow for the holidays anyway) that I'd share it. If nothing else, it's a charming look at one young woman and possibly (especially if you're a Chatfield, Wallace or Orr) you might recognize someone. The families were from Port Austin and Saginaw. Dated Wed, Oct 9 Dear Billy (Wallace) - Well, Billy, I just got home from the Wedding and really I never saw anything so beautiful in all my life. Honestly if I could be as good looking (crossed thru) I mean beautiful as Belle (Wallace) was for just one minute I would be perfectly happy. You can't imagine how she looked. I'll tell you what she looked like just like an angel. She came down the stairs and her eyes were down cast and all in white with her beautiful flowers. Well I can't describe it. And Billy, I kissed (underlined) Mr. Chatfield and caught part of the bride's bouquet. You know it was divided in four parts. Flora, Hazel, Miss Chatfield and I caught them. The bride's table had a vase of lily of the valley and some other flowers in the middle and little baskets around and a lot of other stuff - you would have to see it to appreciate it. They had the best stuff to eat. Marjorie and I served punch and it had claret in it and was awfully good. I lost my bouquet one time but finally found it thru the efforts of Andy Orr. He is awfully cute, don't you think so? I have just the cutest little (boy/box) of (wihe?) to dream on. If I don't dream I will die because you know that whoever you dream about you are going to marry. I will (whno?) be married in a year as I carryout the bouquet. You don't know how excited I am. Ora (Wallace) looked stunning and so dignified and Nell (Wallace) was perfectly beautiful. Little Elizabeth carried in the ring and was the dearest thing. Everybody said it was the prettiest wedding they had ever seen and that Belle was a perfectly beautiful bride. Now isn' that nice? Ora and I are going up to visit them Thanksgiving and I am so excited that I don't know what to do. I am so crazy about Belle that I can't see straight. Aren't you and Grace fixed up yet? Really, Billy, she is a dear and you two are so cute together. You do need somebody to look after you down in that big city. Belle actually ate a lot for supper. I would have been so excited that I couldn't eat a thing but nothing seemed to make her a bit nervous or excited. There is going to be a Leap Year dance on the West Side Friday night but I guess Marg (Marj?) and I are the only ones going from over here. They all said they would and then backed out but we had already asked boys so we have to go. She is going to take Frank. Imagine! I think she likes him quite well tho and I know he is crazy about her. Marjorie and Bay and Dink and I are going to "The Little-est Rebel" at the (Aradenne?) Monday. It is a war pal, very dramatic and sad so I will probably weep. I would be so embarrassed if I should when there were boys around. I guess you will think I am cracked wehn you read this letter but I am so excited and so crazy about your whole faimily that I just have to rave to someone!" sincerely Gagie. Belle Wallace and RP Chatfield roughly 1906

Dear List, I'm looking for the name of the Adoption Agency that was located on State Street back in 1956. Does anyone know which agency that was? Kindly, Jan Johnson

Headstone photographs have been added to the Saginaw Photographs site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm This is a 2 line address! Good-luck Carolyn --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Sue, if you write to: Grand Lodge Office, 233 E. Fulton St., Grand Rapids, MI 49503, they should be able to answer your requests. All Masonic lodges in Michigan submit their monthly and annual reports to the Grand Lodge. Ed Hildebrantmailto:evhill@centurytel.net ----- Original Message ----- From: D. Sue Kissel <dskissel@cableone.net> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Masonic Lodge > I am aware that their was a fire at the Saginaw Co. Masonic Lodge(Pioneer Lodge No.79.). Does anyone know if there are records for this lodge at the state level? If so, how would I obtain a copy of them? > Thanks in advance. > Sue > D. Sue Crowder Kissel > Prescott AZ > Researching: > Crowder (CAN>NY>MI>SD), Keene(ME>MI), Kissel (PA>IA>NE>KS)Long(CAN Fr>NY>MI) Lutzke(GER>MI), Lou©ks(CAN>MI), Mc(A)Fee(CAN>NY>MI), Paine(ME>MI)Smith(NY>MI) > > > > > > >

I was really not aware of what you meant until I read your last message. I can answer you question fully in fact I will add the article I have on this because it is my Brownell line. I don't think they ever decided if it was an accident or on purpose as the other man was never found. Hope this is what you were looking for. I have many of the original newspaper items as well as last summer we made a trip to Newberry and copied their articles from the computer. Descendants of Harry L Brownell Generation No. 1 1. HARRY L11 BROWNELL (JOSEPH EMMET10, NATHANIEL WEBSTER9, ROBERT PATTEE8, ROBERT7, JOB6, THOMAS5, ROBERT4, THOMAS3, ROBERT2, THOMAS1) was born August 16, 1887 in St. Charles, MI, and died November 09, 1909 in Newberry, MI. He married ILAH DOTY December 14, 1908. Notes for HARRY L BROWNELL: Find Skeleton of Man Lost in 1909. Bones of Harry Brownell of St. Charles are identified in North. Bullet is Found in Clothing. Body is discovered under log near camp where large squad of searchers prowled close enough to touch him. Newberry, Mich., Dec. 1, 1913 - The skeleton of Harry Brownell of St. Charles, Mich, who was lost November 9, 1909, was found Sunday morning about one mile from the site of his hunting camp, nine and one-half miles southeast of here, by J. A. Baetz an I. J. Webber, both of Newberry. With the skeleton was found a bunch of keys, a ring with an "H.B." monogram, a hunting case, Elgin watch with a Ferris institute fob, some money and other articles known to have belonged to Brownell. This makes identification complete. That Brownell was shot by a gun other than his own is evident from the fact that a spent bullet of a different calibre was found inside his clothing. His own gun was at full cock. The position of the body indicates that Brownell was sitting on a log watching a runway when he was shot, his body falling backward where it was found. Brownell was a member of the Masonic order, and all Masons in Michigan were asked to contribute to a fund which was used to finance the search for him. From 40 to 60 men looked the ground over in the vicinity of his camp for five weeks, the searchers camp being not over 80 rods from the place where the body was found. A hemlock tree was blown across the log on which Brownell was sitting when shot, the appearance (?) which indicates that it fell about the time of the accident. The theory is that the foliage of the second tree screened the body from the searching parties. Long Vigil is Ended. St. Charles, Mich., Dec. 1. - Four years of waiting for some tiding of her husband, lost in the woods of Luce county in 1909, brought some measure of reward Sunday night to (...) and his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Brownell. It was a message from Newberry announcing the finding of the skeleton and its identification. Having given up every hope of finding his body - much less seeing him alive - the widow, a mother now, and his parents, aged beyond their time from their long vigil, were startled by the news. The disappearance of Harry Brownell one November night resulted in one of the most spectacular searches ever made for a missing deer hunter in Michigan. Many searching parties were formed and frequent trips made to the old camp. The most thorough of these was led about three years ago by Brownell's father. Eddie Brownell puzzled. Before leaving the camp he and his party made sure they had covered every inch of the ground. Mr. Brownell said Sunday night that he was rather puzzled that the body should have been found so near the camp. It is the opinion of many here who were interested in the search that the tree which covered his body apparently fell on him long after he was shot, thus hiding the body. Brownell conducted a general store here and was wedded a few months before he left for the fatal hunting trip, Seven months after he failed to return a boy was born, and Sunday night as she tore open the message gratifying her faint hopes of some day hearing again of her husband, the child, now more than three years old, toddled up to her. Masons Helped Finance Search. The message explained that arrangements would be made to bring the body to St. Charles at once. During the last four years many skeletons found in the north woods have been thought to have been that of Brownell, but identification always disappointed the hope of the parents and widow. A reward of $500. was posted for a long time, but finally withdrawn. Michigan Masons, of which order Brownell was a member, contributed generously toward financing the search for him. Mrs. Brownell went to the home of her father-in-law soon after the disappearance and has been living there since. Clears "Movie" Mystery. The finding of the body of Harry Brownell in the woods of Luce county clears another phase of the case which has been a mystery to Mrs. Brownell and members of her family. About six months ago while Mrs. Brownell and friends were attending a moving picture show in St. Charles they were startled by a face that looked out at them from the "movie" film. Mrs. Brownell and friends firmly believed that it was the missing Harry Brownell and efforts were made to buy the strip of film and have the phot enlarged. Investigation revealed that the picture had been taken in Chicago during the time of the Republican National Convention in June, 1912. Child of HARRY BROWNELL and ILAH DOTY is: 2. i. HARRY RUSSEL12 BROWNELL, b. December 27, 1909; d. July 1987. Generation No. 2 2. HARRY RUSSEL12 BROWNELL (HARRY L11, JOSEPH EMMET10, NATHANIEL WEBSTER9, ROBERT PATTEE8, ROBERT7, JOB6, THOMAS5, ROBERT4, THOMAS3, ROBERT2, THOMAS1) was born December 27, 1909, and died July 1987. He married IVA KENNICOTT. She was born 1900, and died 1999. Children of HARRY BROWNELL and IVA KENNICOTT are: i. IVA13 BROWNELL, b. October 31, 1932; d. October 31, 1932. ii. MARY MARGARET BROWNELL. iii. JAMES BROWNELL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Sue Kissel" <dskissel@cableone.net> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Masonic Lodge > Not the lodge -but members of the lodge. It is my understanding-my grandfather was on a deer hunting trip in the U.P. (probably prior to 1919) where one of the hunters was accidentally killed. The following spring a number of lodge members (including my grandfather) returned to the U.P. in hopes of recovering the deceased hunter. Supposedly the Lodge paid the bill for the search party. > Thanks > Sue Kissel > Prescott AZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bobrusch@aol.com > To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Masonic Lodge > > > I'm not sure when the fire took place that you think records are lost. > Pioneer Lodge 79 is still very active. Do you have a question about the > lodge. Bob > >

I'm not sure when the fire took place that you think records are lost. Pioneer Lodge 79 is still very active. Do you have a question about the lodge. Bob

Not the lodge -but members of the lodge. It is my understanding-my grandfather was on a deer hunting trip in the U.P. (probably prior to 1919) where one of the hunters was accidentally killed. The following spring a number of lodge members (including my grandfather) returned to the U.P. in hopes of recovering the deceased hunter. Supposedly the Lodge paid the bill for the search party. Thanks Sue Kissel Prescott AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobrusch@aol.com To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Masonic Lodge I'm not sure when the fire took place that you think records are lost. Pioneer Lodge 79 is still very active. Do you have a question about the lodge. Bob

I am aware that their was a fire at the Saginaw Co. Masonic Lodge(Pioneer Lodge No.79.). Does anyone know if there are records for this lodge at the state level? If so, how would I obtain a copy of them? Thanks in advance. Sue D. Sue Crowder Kissel Prescott AZ Researching: Crowder (CAN>NY>MI>SD), Keene(ME>MI), Kissel (PA>IA>NE>KS)Long(CAN Fr>NY>MI) Lutzke(GER>MI), Lou©ks(CAN>MI), Mc(A)Fee(CAN>NY>MI), Paine(ME>MI)Smith(NY>MI)

Hi: I had Robinson ancestors living in Lakefield Twp. Saginaw County during the mid 1880's Al Galloway ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jerolyn@aol.com> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] (MISAGINA) Robinson- Saginaw, MI > Gayle, > On these mid-1800 ancestors, it is usually helpful to know their > religion, as those records always give the parents names. What religion was > your ROBINSON? > > Carolyn > >

I do not know what religion our Robinson was. He has been a complete brick wall! I am not even sure of his real first name, as he is listed both as John E., and Edward J. Gayle ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jerolyn@aol.com> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] (MISAGINA) Robinson- Saginaw, MI > Gayle, > On these mid-1800 ancestors, it is usually helpful to know their > religion, as those records always give the parents names. What religion was > your ROBINSON? > > Carolyn >

Thanks so much to all who helped. I can always count on good ole Saginaw Mi. Jan

Jan: Try this. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Anlpnnomore@aol.com> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] BIRTH CERTIFICATE > Does anyone know where i can get a copy of a birth cert. from clinton county, > St Johns Michigan. Born at home in 1925 but registered somewhere in Michigan. > TIA > Jan > Links to Clinton county research. Bold links are links within this website. All others will take you to a page outside this website and you will need to use your browser's BACK button to return here. Please bookmark this website before you leave it. MIGenWeb Clinton County Archives MIGenWeb State Archives USGenWeb Archives WorldGenWeb Archives MIGenWeb Clinton County Cemeteries Clinton County Cemeteries restoration project MIGenWeb Clinton County Research Links MIGenWeb Clinton County Look ups MIGenWeb Clinton County Map MIGenWeb Clinton County Plat Maps MIGenWeb Clinton County Family Genealogy Pages MIGenWeb Clinton County Marriages, April 5 to December 31, 1868 MIGenWeb Links USGenWeb Links Queries and Surnames USGenWeb Special Project Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Clinton County Coordinator: Bonnie McVicar-Briggs. Email You Found Us At: http://www.rootsweb.com/~miclinto/restore.htm This page is maintained by Bonnie McVicar-Briggs, Ovid, MI. All rights are reserved. Copyright © 2002. This page was last updated Tuesday, 05-Feb-2002 18:43:43 MST. Originally created in 2001, by Dennis Zank, Clinton County MIGenWeb Coordinator 1996-2002. Copyright © 2001 - 2002. >

Does anyone know where i can get a copy of a birth cert. from clinton county, St Johns Michigan. Born at home in 1925 but registered somewhere in Michigan. TIA Jan