Hi Group, When my great, great grandparents came to this country in 1866 they settled in Graafschap. They had a farm there. Their names were ABEL van der WEST and ANTJE ( ANNA ) van der WEST. Can any one give me any information on the exact location of the farm and how large it was? Any information at all would be helpful. Abel died on 8-1-1897...Anna died 3-30-1897. Both are buried in Graafschap Cemetary. Thank you, Sharon ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hello Group, I have just found out that my Great Grandfather had purchased the old Van Kampen Farm at Robinson Marsh, probably in the 1930s. I understand that there were about 135 acres with it. He either gave or sold the farm to my Grandfather in the 1930s. My Grandfather auctioned it off later because the woman he was married to did not want to live there. ( I never could stand her!!)My Great Grandfather, the one who bought the farm, was John Vanderwest. My Grandfather was Edward Vanderwest. He ended up moving back to Graafschap. Can anyone give me any information? Thank you, Sharon ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Can anyone help this person? Please post your answer to her BOTH on this list (let's share & avoid duplication at the same time) AND to her at <[email protected]>. Thanks, TR > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: looking for Van Raalte info > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:53:17 -0500 > From: Susan Ditto <[email protected]> > > Hi, > I am a historic preservation consultant from Oxford, > Mississippi. I came upon your website while looking for > information on a furniture maker from your area by the name > of Van Raalte. I was hoping that you could shed a little > more light on him for me or maybe direct me to someone who > could. > > D.B.K. (I am not certain all of these initials are correct) > Van Raalte was a salesman and later head of the Limbert > Furniture company from 1916 to at least 1927. He was so > influential within the company that in the mid-1920s the > company's furniture mark was redesigned to read "Limbert > Furniture by Van Raalte Craftsmen." The Limbert company, > which started out in Grand Rapids, was moved to Holland in > 1906 where it continued to make furniture under the Limbert > name until 1944. This company's furniture was extremely > popular in the early 20th century and is still sought after > by collectors of fine furniture designs in the Arts and > Crafts and Colonial Revival styles. > > I suspect that the Van Raalte I am looking for was probably > a descendent of Rev. A.C. Van Raalte, but I have found no > evidence to support this. I would sincerely appreciate any > information that you could give me. Thank you very much and > congratulations on creating such an extensively researched > website. > > Best regards, > Susan Ditto > Ditto & Associates > 1516 Madison Ave. > Oxford, Mississippi 38655 > 877-648-4203 > http://www.dittoandassociates.com/index.htm

Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/716 Surname: TIMMER ------------------------- Hi, Sharon. Do you know name of ship ancestors came on in 1866 or exact date? My grandmother TIMMER came to Michigan in 1866 from Texel with her parents and five siblings. M.A.

when you want an German- English or a Dutch-English translation, just mail me the text. regards Henk Dijkstra DVM, PhD, [email protected] in the Netherlands ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "R/S Arnold" <[email protected]> Aan: <[email protected]> Verzonden: woensdag 6 september 2000 20:53 Onderwerp: [Ottawa Co., Michigan Genealogy] Translations online instantly > List, > I just discovered this site that has links to other sites that will > translate languages both ways online. You can type in text or cut & paste > it, will do emails or web pages by typing in the URL. Dutch is not yet > listed (hope it will be) but French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, > Russian, Japanese and Chinese are. > > I had a German letter from a relative dated 1984 that I had only a short > sentence of translation written by an aunt that simply said "he wants family > information, he's a head teacher in a trade school". The aunt said she > never answered the letter. > > The letter was a full type written page, so I typed it in so that I would > have a more exact translation for the family records. Also, hoping it might > contain some tidbit of information I didn't know. Was I in for a surprise. > The letter did say what the aunt had written down but it also stated that he > had the direct line (with wives first names), birth & death dates going back > to the 16th century if we wanted it! > > I typed in my response to him in the English to German box, hit the > "translate" key & presto!, it gave me my copy in English and in German ready > for copying and pasting. I mailed the letter today along with copies of > what I did have on the history of the family and the US branch. > > Won't he be surprised when he gets an answer to his letter 15 years later > AND in his own language! > > This is the main linking page: http://www.babelfish.com/Translations.shtml > > I liked using this site the best: http://www.freetranslation.com/ > > Hope this helps someone else. > -- > Shalom in Messiah Yeshua/Jesus, > Shelly Low Arnold <[email protected]> > Holland, MI > Home Page: <http://www.macatawa.org/~rsarnold/> > Family History page: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rsarnold/> > > Researching: > ARNOLD, ATWELL, BENNETT, DEWAR, EAS(s)ON, ELDER, GROENMIEJER, LAPO, LOW, > NEISH, NETHAWAY, OVERKAMP, PACKER, PETERS, PLUISTER, ROSENBERG(er), SCOTT, > SECKSTON(E), SKINNER, SOULE, STRICKLAND, WILCOX / WILCOCKS, WHITTEMORE and > looking for a connection of ELDER, SCOTT &/or LOW with DUNCAN. > > > > > > > ==== MIOTTAWA Mailing List ==== > This genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have > ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is removed!!! > >

Hi List, I am wondering if anyone can give me any suggestions on how to find a death or genealogy record for Sara De Kraker Ver Schure. I have searched high and low in Ottawa County for her family and it has become a brick wall. Sara was born on October 21, 1846 in the Province of Zeeland. I believe she married Aadriaan or Edward Ver Schure and had 4 children with him. The children were Isaac, Sara, Nellie and Peternella. Sara died in 1872 I think. In the 1880 Census for Ottawa County I find an Adrian Ver Schure age 38 but the records list the children as his grandchildren ? If anyone out there has any Ver Schure genealogy I would appreciate any help or tips you can give me. Peggy

Hi, At http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/GrandHavenTownshipCemetery.html we have a transcript of the Grand Haven Township Cemetery, Section 15 of Gd. Haven. Herrick Library has received a copy of the Cemetery's records (a computerized printout of 1056 individuals). There is only one copy of this. Ralph has asked if we could manage to add the data from the cemetery to the data we have on-line ... This includes the plot's location & owner ... plus some other data. Is anyone (preferably someone I could get this record to) available to add this data to what we already have? Terri Rene

"Ottawa County Historical Atlas & Gazetteer" Kit Lane, editor Pavilion Press, c. 1999 Cost $10 plus $5 shipping & handling contact Ralph Haan @ Herrick Library Table of Contents: Population & Settlement page 4 County Organization & Evolution of the Townships 9 County Seat 16 Historical Maps 20 Rivers & Lakes 36 Railroads 44 Gazetteer of Places: Present Day & Historic 50 Allendale Blendon Chester Crockery Georgetown Grand Haven Holland Jamestown Olive Park Polkton Port Sheldon Robinson Spring Lake Tallmadge Wright Zeeland Bibliography 157 Ottawa County in Fiction 165 Ottawa County in Poetry 172 Index 175 quoted from page 50: "In the pages that follow Ottawa County is examined on a township by township basis with each township section beginning with a modern map and a short historical synopsis. At the end of each section there is a listing of cemeteries located in the township followed by a listing of historic schools, although few are still in use." If anyone is interested in purchasing this book, please send a copy of this e-mail message and a check for $15 (may be increased if postage is higher) to Ralph Haan at Herrick Library. If you are in town, just stop by at the Library and ask Ralph for a copy ... save postage & handling costs. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard Ottawa County, Michigan

Hi Bruce, I have information on a lot of Browns in Ottawa County, mostly the Northeast corner (Wright and Chester townships) Let me know if I can help. Chris Brown aka [email protected] In a message dated 9/5/00 1:01:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I am just starting my search into Ottawa County for ancestors on my grandmothers side. Looking for any information on the families of Stephens, Pratt, Travis, or Brown for the period of 1830-present. I have some information regarding the connections of these families, along with individual names, birthdates, townships of birth, death, and sometimes burials. These families are present also in Kent and Barry counties. Thanks for any help! Bruce Beatty >>

Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/715 Surname: Hamstra, Duisterwinkle ------------------------- My great grandmother's sister Martha (Martje) Hamstra (b. 1860 in Burum, Friesland, Netherlands) came to the U.S., married a Duisterwinkle and settled in Grand Haven, Michigan. I am looking to find out her husband's first name and any other information about their descendents.

Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/713 Surname: De Ridder, Vander West, Tibbe, Timmer ------------------------- I am researching members of my Mother's family. DE RIDDER- My Great Great Grandparents were DERK (actually DIRK) DE RIDDER and FRANCES TEN BLEYKER (actually FRANCIJNTJE DEN BLEIJKER). They emigrated from Texel in 1866, with their 4 children in 1866. They landed in New York and went to Michigan. The children's names were: HERBERT (actually HUIP)( my G Grandfather )..married Ruth Tibbe, BAALTJE ( have no idea what english translation would be), HUIBERTJE (again..english translation?) and a brother MAARTEN. My G Grandfather was 10 years old when they arrived in this country and died June 5, 1929 in Holland, Michigan. He was 72 years old. I know that he had a farm in or around Holland for many years. I know that he lived in Holland for about 44 years before his death.I know that he married my G Grandmother on March 1, 1885 in Graafschap, Michigan by A. Zwemen. The witnesses to the marriage were A.G. Nusken? and J.G.Tibbe. At the time of his death in 1929 he still had 2 sisters living. The only names I have are the married names of HALLAM( or HALLIM or HALLUM ) of Kalamazoo and BOERSMA of Florida. I suppose his brother MAARTEN had already passed on. My questions are these....Does anyone know where and when Derk ( Dirk ) De Ridder died and where he is buried? The same question for Frances De Ridder. Does anyone know where and when Maarten DE Ridder died and is buried, or did he leave the area? Regarding the 2 sisters..BAALTJE and HUIBERTJE..one married Hallam and the other a BOERSMA..does anyone know who married who and again any info about their families. And finally, does anyone know where the DeRidder farm was located and is it still standing or has it gone by way of the housing developments. I only know that it was up or down the road from the Vander West farm. Also, where was this family located before moving to Holland? Thank you, Sharon Preising

----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Preising <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: [Ottawa Co., Michigan Genealogy] Family History > Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/713 > > Surname: De Ridder, Vander West, Tibbe, Timmer > ------------------------- > > I am researching members of my Mother's family. DE RIDDER- My Great Great > Grandparents were DERK (actually DIRK) DE RIDDER and FRANCES TEN BLEYKER > (actually FRANCIJNTJE DEN BLEIJKER). They emigrated from Texel in 1866, > with their 4 children in 1866. They landed in New York and went to Michigan. > The children's names were: HERBERT (actually HUIP)( my G Grandfather )..married > Ruth Tibbe, BAALTJE ( have no idea what english translation would be), > HUIBERTJE (again..english translation?) and a brother MAARTEN. My G Grandfather > was 10 years old when they arrived in this country and died June 5, 1929 > in Holland, Michigan. He was 72 years old. I know that he had a farm in > or around Holland for many years. I know that he lived in Holland for about > 44 years before his death.I know that he married my G Grandmother on March > 1, 1885 in Graafschap, Michigan by A. Zwemen. The witnesses to the marriage > were A.G. Nusken? and J.G.Tibbe. At the time of his death in 1929 he still > had 2 sisters living. The only names I have are the married names of HALLAM( > or HALLIM or HALLUM ) of Kalamazoo and BOERSMA of Florida. I suppose his > brother MAARTEN had already passed on. My questions are these....Does anyone > know where and when Derk ( Dirk ) De Ridder died and where he is buried? > The same question for Frances De Ridder. Does anyone know where and when > Maarten DE Ridder died and is buried, or did he leave the area? Regarding > the 2 sisters..BAALTJE and HUIBERTJE..one married Hallam and the other > a BOERSMA..does anyone know who married who and again any info about their > families. And finally, does anyone know where the DeRidder farm was located > and is it still standing or has it gone by way of the housing developments. > I only know that it was up or down the road from the Vander West farm. > Also, where was this family located before moving to Holland? Thank you, > Sharon Preising > > > ==== MIOTTAWA Mailing List ==== > EFFECTIVE 02 April 2000: > The Ottawa Co., MI GenConnect boards are now "gatewayed" to this mailing list. > When a board is gatewayed to a mailing list, every message posted to the GenConnect board is forwarded to the corresponding mailing list. > The message sent to the list will contain the URL of the specific post to allow the list subscribers to respond directly to the message. > In this manner, gatewaying will enable more effective communication between the mailing lists and the GenConnect boards. >

List, I just discovered this site that has links to other sites that will translate languages both ways online. You can type in text or cut & paste it, will do emails or web pages by typing in the URL. Dutch is not yet listed (hope it will be) but French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Russian, Japanese and Chinese are. I had a German letter from a relative dated 1984 that I had only a short sentence of translation written by an aunt that simply said "he wants family information, he's a head teacher in a trade school". The aunt said she never answered the letter. The letter was a full type written page, so I typed it in so that I would have a more exact translation for the family records. Also, hoping it might contain some tidbit of information I didn't know. Was I in for a surprise. The letter did say what the aunt had written down but it also stated that he had the direct line (with wives first names), birth & death dates going back to the 16th century if we wanted it! I typed in my response to him in the English to German box, hit the "translate" key & presto!, it gave me my copy in English and in German ready for copying and pasting. I mailed the letter today along with copies of what I did have on the history of the family and the US branch. Won't he be surprised when he gets an answer to his letter 15 years later AND in his own language! This is the main linking page: http://www.babelfish.com/Translations.shtml I liked using this site the best: http://www.freetranslation.com/ Hope this helps someone else. -- Shalom in Messiah Yeshua/Jesus, Shelly Low Arnold <[email protected]> Holland, MI Home Page: <http://www.macatawa.org/~rsarnold/> Family History page: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rsarnold/> Researching: ARNOLD, ATWELL, BENNETT, DEWAR, EAS(s)ON, ELDER, GROENMIEJER, LAPO, LOW, NEISH, NETHAWAY, OVERKAMP, PACKER, PETERS, PLUISTER, ROSENBERG(er), SCOTT, SECKSTON(E), SKINNER, SOULE, STRICKLAND, WILCOX / WILCOCKS, WHITTEMORE and looking for a connection of ELDER, SCOTT &/or LOW with DUNCAN.

here is the translation: quote: I am looking for relatives of Pieter van Dijk, who died in 1944 in Wymbritseradeel, and his wife Carliena Zwaagman. Their children are Ulbe, Herman, Hendrikus and Johan Pieter, all born in Sneek. After the death of her husband went to Deventer with the children. Probably one (or more) of her sons went to Canda, I don't know. Who knows where they live or who has other information for me. unquote regards Henk Dijkstra from the Netherlands ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard" <[email protected]> Aan: <[email protected]> Verzonden: dinsdag 5 september 2000 16:37 Onderwerp: Re: [Ottawa Co., Michigan Genealogy] van Dijk uit Sneek/Deventer > Can anyone translate this for me? > Thanks, > TR > > > > Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum > > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/712 > > > > Ik zoek familieden van Pieter van Dijk overl 1944 te Wymbritseradeel en > > zijn vrouw Carliena Zwaagman. > > Hun kinderen zijn Ulbe, Herman, Hendrikus en Johan Pieter allen geboren > > in Sneek. > > Na het overlijden van haar man is Carliena naar Deventer gegaan met de > > kinderen. Waarschijnlijk is een van haar zonen naar Canada gegaan of meerdere > > dat is niet bekend. > > Wie weet waar ze wonen of heeft andere informatie voor mij. > > > ==== MIOTTAWA Mailing List ==== > This genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have > ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is removed!!! > >

"Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard" wrote: > Can anyone translate this for me? > Thanks, > TR Thank you for the translations!

Can anyone translate this for me? Thanks, TR > Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/712 > > Ik zoek familieden van Pieter van Dijk overl 1944 te Wymbritseradeel en > zijn vrouw Carliena Zwaagman. > Hun kinderen zijn Ulbe, Herman, Hendrikus en Johan Pieter allen geboren > in Sneek. > Na het overlijden van haar man is Carliena naar Deventer gegaan met de > kinderen. Waarschijnlijk is een van haar zonen naar Canada gegaan of meerdere > dat is niet bekend. > Wie weet waar ze wonen of heeft andere informatie voor mij.

Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/712 Surname: van Dijk, Zwaagman ------------------------- Ik zoek familieden van Pieter van Dijk overl 1944 te Wymbritseradeel en zijn vrouw Carliena Zwaagman. Hun kinderen zijn Ulbe, Herman, Hendrikus en Johan Pieter allen geboren in Sneek. Na het overlijden van haar man is Carliena naar Deventer gegaan met de kinderen. Waarschijnlijk is een van haar zonen naar Canada gegaan of meerdere dat is niet bekend. Wie weet waar ze wonen of heeft andere informatie voor mij. Anneke Pol Snippe Mantinghstraat 38 7908AX Hoogeveen Holland

Posted on: Ottawa Co., Michigan Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/Ottawa/711 Surname: Stephens, Pratt, Travis, Brown ------------------------- I am just starting my search into Ottawa County for ancestors on my grandmothers side. Looking for any information on the families of Stephens, Pratt, Travis, or Brown for the period of 1830-present. I have some information regarding the connections of these families, along with individual names, birthdates, townships of birth, death, and sometimes burials. These families are present also in Kent and Barry counties. Thanks for any help! Bruce Beatty [email protected] Collegeville, PA

Thank you for the info. J Cook

Please don't pay for material that is free.... Below is a letter I received today. If you are inclined to spend the "$79.99 Recurring 3-Month Rate" (from the home page of this organization), I URGE you to look into the company before using their service. It appears that work available for free on-line is being sold under the guise of FamilyDiscovery.com ... I tried to contact them but all links to their e-mail are "unavailable" ... but I noticed that some data we have linked to on the Ottawa County Page http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/genweb.htm appears to be accessed through this group. For example, they have posted http://www.macatawa.org/~devries/Earlym.htm on their pages.... as their own work! Please do your research before paying for something you should be able to access for free. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [MIGenWeb] URGENT Is YOUR data on this list??? > Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 07:17:58 -0400 > To: "MI-Gen List II" <[email protected]> > It appears that there is a new scam artist out there who is > stealing web pages from around the country and some are from MI... I gather > that they use > some sort of framework so it appears your pages are included > in theirs and > you cannot bust out of the frame or something like > that... there is a code to > put at the beginning of each page if you think you are > affected... but I just > do not know what to do at the moment.... here is the site of > their "new" > most likely plagiarized data.... you might want to check it out > and see if > any of your stuff is on there.... .... > <http://www.familydiscovery.com/whatsnew.htm>