That would be John Goldberg, Jr, who was 6 years old in the 1880 census. Thanks for checking--I appreciate it. I've made a note of the entry. Elaine <-------------------snip-------------------> > In the 1892 Business Compendium for Ottawa County, there is a John Goldberg > listed in Grand Haven Twp., age 27, farmer.

In the 1892 Business Compendium for Ottawa County, there is a John Goldberg listed in Grand Haven Twp., age 27, farmer. I do not see any other Goldbergs in the Grand Haven area at that time in this source. Kathy in MO

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/1212.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you!! That is very helpful information. I will be checkign into it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/57.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I notice you list Taylor as a surname. This post is listed under a heading of Berlin/and or/ Marne. So now I would like to ask if you have a Luther Taylor who married a Margaret Gunn in Berlin? Family moved to Ontonagon County in UP. She died 1940, Luther in 1943. If so, I was in Ontonagon just last Monday finding their death records and graves.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/1212.1 Message Board Post: You should look in Muskegon which is a little north of Grand Haven (but a different county). My grandfather's sister died of TB in the Muskegon Sanitarium in 1931. Good luck.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROBSON, TAYLOR Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CIB.2ACI/57.1.1 Message Board Post: The oldest COVEY that I have is Solomon, b. 1819 NY, and married to Sarah TAYLOR. There is no Delaware in my information, just NY. Jennie Mae Robson and Harriet Mae Robson were the daughters of Jay ROBSON and Almeda COVEY, one of Solomon's 14 children (none of which were named "Jennie").

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/57.1 Message Board Post: was your Covey family from Delaware and do you have a Jennie Eldon Covey?

Hi Everyone, I hope someone out there can help me with this family. They all died in Grand Haven, and they are all buried in Lake Forest Cemetery. John GOLDBERG, born 19 June 1828 in the Netherlands. He died 7 Nov 1903. A history of the FELT family says John was a "celery farmer." The 1880 census says he was a "fruit farmer." Clarissa (Felt) GOLDBERG, John's wife, was born 8 Apr 1844 in Ellington, Chautauqua Co., NY, and died in Grand Haven, 10 Feb 1897. They had at least 3 children: 1. George E. GOLDBERG was born 7 June 1880, and died 18 Aug 1881. 2. William W. GOLDBERG was born about 1883, and drowned in Grand Haven in July 1897, age 14 years. 3. Mary GOLDBERG was born 28 July 1885. I believe she lived to adulthood but do not know who she married. There was also a son John GOLDBERG. He was probably from John Sr's previous marriage. I'm researching Clarissa's line and would love to know more about her, her life, and her children. Thanks for any help or suggestions. Elaine Waiters in CA edwaiters@charter.net

Hi Sandra, Do you live in Ottawa Co? Or has anyone offered to look this up for you? If you aren't somewhere near here to do it yourself (because I know it's always more fun to do it yourself :) I could probably go to the Courthouse to try to find the death record in the index. Then it wouldn't be a problem to find the actual record on film. Info can be written down, but they charge $10.00, if I remember right, for a certified copy of a death record. Let me know, I'm happy to help! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of slkscb@msn.com Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:26 PM To: MIOTTAWA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOtt'wa] Bertha Bol Voshel (or Voshol) in Grand Haven This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ball, Bol, Fleming, Johnson, Voshel, Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/1212 Message Board Post: I am trying to determine where to begin to look for a death record for my husband's grandmother. Bertha was born about 1892 and died 1925. We were told that she died in a sanitorium [TB?] and I have no idea if a sanitorium existed in the Grand Haven area in 1925. She is buried in Lake Forest Cemetery, Grand Haven, Michigan. Bertha was married to Gerrit Voshel (or Voshol depending on where he signed his name) on April 11, 1917. I have the original marriage document. If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would certainly appreciate it. Sandra ==== MIOTTAWA Mailing List ==== This List is dedicated to Ottawa County, Michigan. If you have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact Kathleen off-list at Administration@KathleensKorner.net. Thanks. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Have you tried first the Ottawa Co. Clerk's office to see if there is a death record there? If not, go to the Loutit Library Genealogy Department (in the basement) and tell one of the volunteers what you are looking for. They have newspaper obits. (and lots of other records, old phone books, city directories, etc.) from back then - possibly she is listed in one of them. An obit. might tell you what county she died in, and then you could look at that county's death records. Also, depending on where they lived in Ottawa County, you could also try the genealogy dept. at Herrick Library in Holland - they have an incredible genealogy dept., with lots of newspaper articles on microfilm.....I've found terrific info. there just through the old "social columns" (gossip) that were printed in some of the tinier newspapers between Holland and Grand Haven. Kathy in MO

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ball, Bol, Fleming, Johnson, Voshel, Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/1212 Message Board Post: I am trying to determine where to begin to look for a death record for my husband's grandmother. Bertha was born about 1892 and died 1925. We were told that she died in a sanitorium [TB?] and I have no idea if a sanitorium existed in the Grand Haven area in 1925. She is buried in Lake Forest Cemetery, Grand Haven, Michigan. Bertha was married to Gerrit Voshel (or Voshol depending on where he signed his name) on April 11, 1917. I have the original marriage document. If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would certainly appreciate it. Sandra

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Deverney, Sturgeon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/8.441.1.1 Message Board Post: Angus, WOW so were related! My grandmother is Patricia Deverney-Sturgeon, I am so interested in any information you could supply me with. I have been at this for a month and have not got so far, maybe just reading all of your homework.... Please write back and keep in touch. Deanna Sturgeon-Lehto

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Deverney, Sturgeon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/8.442 Message Board Post: I hope this may be of help, my name is deanne sturgeon-lehto, my grandmother was Patricia Deverney-Sturgeon, i have found quite a few generations, her father david deverney's father is Jacob Deverney, his father is William Deverney-perrissien, his father is Jean Baptiste-Perrissien, if you would like to exchange, i would love TO! please email me. Deanna Lehto

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WILDS, PANKOWSKI, CONANT, SLATER, HEADLEY, MORROW, HANSEN Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CIB.2ACI/1211 Message Board Post: WILDS, Ethel M. (Pankowski) Grand Haven Ethel M. Pankowski Wilds, of Grand Haven (formerly of Kalamazoo) died August 9, 2003. Born June 21, 1914 to Robert and Nina Conant in Grand Haven, she married Bernard Pankowski in 1937, and he died in 1988. She was married to her second husband, Edward Wilds in April 1994 and he passed away in October 1994. Survived by her daughter, Orene Sue (Pankowski) Slater of Lansing; nephew, Michael Headley; niece, Patti (Headley) Morrow; step-sons, David and Tom Wilds; granddaughter, Tracey Wilds; and cousin, Betty Hansen of Spring Lake. She leaves many relatives and friends, including Marion Harris of Kalamazoo. A service will be held at 12-Noon Friday at First Presbyterian Church in Grand Haven, with a luncheon to follow. Contributions to Hospice of NOC, First Presbyterian Church, or Oak Crest Manor of Spring Lake. VanZantwick Bartels Kammeraad Grand Haven Published in the Kalamazoo Gazette on 8/12/2003. (Posted by a volunteer-no family connection)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MCCLUNG, KUEKEN, MYERS, CLAY Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CIB.2ACI/1210 Message Board Post: McCLUNG,Deborah Kay Age 37 Of Mattawan, MI Formerly of Grand Haven Passed away Friday, August 8, 2003, at Borgess Hospital. She was born June 24, 1966 to Donald J. and Shirley May (Kueken) Myers in Grand Haven, and married Mark A. McClung June 16, 1984 in Grand Haven. Deborah was a graduate of Grand Haven High School, and enjoyed gardening, her family, the family dog "Maggie" and playing bunko. Survivors include her husband Mark; and 2 sons, Zachary R. and Seth T. , both at home; her parents, Shirley M. Clay of Brooksville, FL, and Donald J. Myers of Muskegon; 5 brothers, Derrick Myers, Larry Myers, Gary (Shirley) Myers, all of Florida, Craig Myers of Fruitport and Donny Myers of Connecticut; also several aunts, uncles, nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by a brother, Randy Myers in 1996. A Funeral Service for Mrs. McClung will be held Tuesday 1:00 p.m. at VanZantwick, Bartels, Kammeraad in Grand Haven with Pastor Colin Zehr officiating. Friends may meet the family one hour prior to the service. Interment will be at Historic Ceme! tery. Memorials to the American Cancer Society are appreciated. VanZantwick Bartels Kammeraad 620 Washington St. Grand Haven, MI 49417 Published in the Kalamazoo Gazette from 8/11/2003 - 8/12/2003. (Posted by a volunteer-no family connection)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STROME, BOWER, TOKARSAKI, TEAYS, WIEMUTH, JOINER Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CIB.2ACI/1209 Message Board Post: STROME, William L. Age 71 Of Spring Lake, MI Passed away Saturday, August 23, 2003, at a hospital in Muskegon, MI. He was born January 27, 1932 to Lloyd and Emma (Bower) Strome in Dowagiac, MI, and married Dolores A. Tokarsaki June 23, 1956 in Dowagiac. Mr. Strome was a graduate of Western Michigan University, and served in the US Navy during the Korean War, having served aboard aircraft carrier USS Coral Sea 3-1/2 years. He moved to the Tri-Cities area in 1976 and worked for Prudential, where he had been an agent, sales manager, training consultant and district manager, and retired in 1990. He was a former member of the Elks Lodge and former Rotarian, and during his career achieved "CLU"– Chartered Life Underwriters. His interests included hunting, fishing and camping. Survivors include his wife, Dolores; daughters, Diane Strome of Grand Rapids, Karen (Stephen) Teays of Spring Lake; son, William L. Strome of Kalamazoo; 3 grandsons, Kevin, Eric and Brendan; 2 sisters, Ardith Wiemuth of Dowagiac, Suzanne (Donald! ) Joiner of Collinsville, Mississippi; brother, Raymond (Donna) Strome of Cassopolis; sister-in-law, Roxanne Strome; also several nieces, nephews and cousins. His brothers, Harlin and Terry, preceded him in death. A Memorial Service for Mr. Strome will be held 11:00 a.m. Wednesday at VanZantwick Bartels Kammeraad Funeral Home in Spring Lake with Rev. Kenneth Nash and Mr. Bruce Nitz officiating. Friends may meet the family Wednesday one hour prior to the service. Memorials to the Michigan Heart Assoc. and St. Jude's Children's Hospital are appreciated. VanZantwick Bartels Kammeraad 213 E. Savidge St. Spring Lake, MI 49456 Published in the Kalamazoo Gazette on 8/26/2003. (Posted by a volunteer-no family connection)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Conkwright,Harris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CIB.2ACI/976.1 Message Board Post: Hi Donald...I have lost track of you a long time ago,as I don't get to this web sight very often.I have been corresponding with Opal Hayes from Tenn.I think you know her.She is a great grand daughter of Gideon Harris who was a brother to Ira Finch Harris,my great grandpa.I have a book on the Harris family, but it makes very little mention of Gideon.Opal said she has a lot of information on him and she will send it to me.I also have met another cousin of mine just last week named Lisa,who is also related to My great grandpa Ira Finch Harris.I'd like to hear from you again to share more information with you.I see the name "Shafer" in my Harris family book you may be intersted in knowing about.Please e mail me at: p_stout@webtv.net. Thank you in advance.

Would anybody know how much the Ottawa County Clerk charges for a 1911 death certificate ? Thanx !! ehills@cass.net Eldon Hills @ Petersburg, Mi.