Thank you Mollie for posting the site for the County Base Map. I am probably wrong but I notice some of the townships are different than ones on the maps I have. The one marked Rochester Hills I have as Avon Township. Has this Township name been changed??? It appears on this map that the township names are in larger print. It has Bloomfield part way into West Bloomfield. It has Farmington [Township] in smaller print. It has Southfield marked above & across what I thought were Farmington and Southfield Townships. I don't want to cause anyone extra work, but being out of Michigan I may have missed that these township names have been changed. Ann Parsons Alamogordo, NM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mollie Lynch" <lynchmol@metronet.lib.mi.us> To: "Ann Parsons" <aparsons2003@msn.com> Cc: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] Lawrence-Esther Dickens - Orion, MI > To give you an idea of close Orion, Clarkston and Auburn Hill are here's > a link to a basic Oakland Co. map. > > http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/oss/assets/docs/base_CVTs_letter.pdf > > I don't believe that the online Oakland Press archives go back to the > early 1990's. The obits only go back to the date that the web site was > created. The Library of Michigan and the Pontiac Public Library have > the paper on microfilm. > > I couldn't find a listing for Stone Baptist Church in the yellow pages > nor in the online Baptist church listing at > http://phonebook.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Baptist+Churches/S-MI/page-1/. > Could it be that stone is not part of the formal name but a physical > description and common name? > > You might want to do call an area Baptist church and see if they can > help you. I would think that the ministers know each other and if you > could find one who's been around for a while, they might remember him. > > Good Luck > > > > Ann Parsons wrote: > > >Another thought is for Rita to get a map or atlas that has Michigan. Then > >she would be able to find the location of the places she is asking where > >they are located. The state of Michigan has a nice one. I got mine by > >calling 1-800-5432-YES. This was free. I bought an outstanding one of all > >the Michigan Counties in considerable detail 1-608-666-3331. There is an > >Orion Township, communities of Lake Orion, Lake Orion Heights. > >Hope this helps. > >Ann in New Mexico > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <ChristieTrapp@aol.com> > >To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:33 PM > >Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Lawrence-Esther Dickens - Orion, MI > > > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 4/14/2004 3:02:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >>MIOAKLAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > >>Rita DonCarlos rainbowd@peoplepc.com > >>Subject: Lawrence DICKEN(S) in Oakland, MI > >>Seeking info on Lawrence and Esther DICKEN(S). They are said to have > >>lived > >>in > >>Orion, Oakland County and according to SSDI they did. > >>Lawrence was supposedly a minister at a Church named Stone Baptist > >>Church. I > >>can't find anything about it so it may not have been in Orion.. > >>Lawrence and Esther had a daughter named Betty June DICKEN(S). I don't > >>know > >>if they had any other children or not. He also had a brother named > >>Loren. > >>Lawrence died March 08, 1994 and Esther died February 18, 1992 both in > >>Orion, Oakland Co. MI. > >>Would like to know where they are buried and maybe someone could get > >>their > >>obits for me? Would appreciate any help at all on any of the above. > >>Thanks in advance, > >>Rita > >>rainbowD@peoplepc.com > >> > >>Rita: > >> > >>I went on line to the Orion Public Library's website which has the local > >>newspaper online. I put Lawrence, Esther Dicken(s) as well as their > >>daughter as > >>well as the name of the church. Came up blank for all names. > >>Therefore, > >>I > >>don't believe that you have the correct town for any of your facts. I > >>also > >>checked for the spelling as Dickin(s). > >> > >>I would suggest that you send for the death certificates for all > >>concerned > >>from Oakland County to see what the death certificate actually has to > >>say > >>about > >>place of death and burial. From that reference you can then search for > >>an > >>obituary. The obituary was not found in the Lake Orion Review which is > >>the local > >>paper for that area. If they had been there and an obituary published > >>it > >>would have come up with a hit. > >> > >>Christie Trapp > >> > >> > >>==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > >>You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > >> > >>============================== > >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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The differences you are seeing are villages and townships becoming cities, a trend in MI because each has different legislated levels of authority, control, services and taxation limits, with cities having the highest levels. For instance, the Village of Clarkston became a city in 1992 (or 94) to get out from under the control of Independence Township. Township and village authority overlap and although the villages are included in the voting, the population differences often put them in the minority. To gain control they become cities to eliminate the township rule. Most of the governing entities have web pages which should provide a history of the changes. I found the following on Rochester Hill's http://www.rochesterhills.org/index.htm Avon Township, Rochester Hills' predecessor, was organized in 1835, two years before Michigan became a State, as a general law township. In August 1978, the Township of Avon became a Charter Township*. On May 22, 1984, the Electorate of Avon Charter Township voted to become a Home Rule City, the City of Rochester Hills, effective at noon, Tuesday, November 20, 1984. And we thought that boundary changes only happened in the distant past. Mollie * There are different types of townships with varying levels of authority. A township can become a charter township two ways but each has a different level of authority. One, a vote on the people empowers the township to levy up to 8** mills of property taxes without putting the tax issue to the people. Two, by a vote of the township board which limits the board to 1.5** mills. ** The numbers may be off, but the concept is actuate. Ann Parsons wrote: >Thank you Mollie for posting the site for the County Base Map. I am probably >wrong but I notice some of the townships are different than ones on the maps >I have. The one marked Rochester Hills I have as Avon Township. Has this >Township name been changed??? It appears on this map that the township names >are in larger print. It has Bloomfield part way into West Bloomfield. It has >Farmington [Township] in smaller print. It has Southfield marked above & >across what I thought were Farmington and Southfield Townships. > >I don't want to cause anyone extra work, but being out of Michigan I may >have missed that these township names have been changed. > >Ann Parsons >Alamogordo, NM > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mollie Lynch" <lynchmol@metronet.lib.mi.us> >To: "Ann Parsons" <aparsons2003@msn.com> >Cc: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:09 PM >Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] Lawrence-Esther Dickens - Orion, MI > > > > >>To give you an idea of close Orion, Clarkston and Auburn Hill are here's >>a link to a basic Oakland Co. map. >> >>http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/oss/assets/docs/base_CVTs_letter.pdf >> >>I don't believe that the online Oakland Press archives go back to the >>early 1990's. The obits only go back to the date that the web site was >>created. The Library of Michigan and the Pontiac Public Library have >>the paper on microfilm. >> >>I couldn't find a listing for Stone Baptist Church in the yellow pages >>nor in the online Baptist church listing at >>http://phonebook.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Baptist+Churches/S-MI/page-1/. >> Could it be that stone is not part of the formal name but a physical >>description and common name? >> >>You might want to do call an area Baptist church and see if they can >>help you. I would think that the ministers know each other and if you >>could find one who's been around for a while, they might remember him. >> >>Good Luck >> >> >> >>Ann Parsons wrote: >> >> >> >>>Another thought is for Rita to get a map or atlas that has Michigan. Then >>>she would be able to find the location of the places she is asking where >>>they are located. The state of Michigan has a nice one. I got mine by >>>calling 1-800-5432-YES. This was free. I bought an outstanding one of all >>>the Michigan Counties in considerable detail 1-608-666-3331. There is an >>>Orion Township, communities of Lake Orion, Lake Orion Heights. >>>Hope this helps. >>>Ann in New Mexico >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: <ChristieTrapp@aol.com> >>>To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:33 PM >>>Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Lawrence-Esther Dickens - Orion, MI >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>In a message dated 4/14/2004 3:02:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, >>>>MIOAKLAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >>>>Rita DonCarlos rainbowd@peoplepc.com >>>>Subject: Lawrence DICKEN(S) in Oakland, MI >>>>Seeking info on Lawrence and Esther DICKEN(S). They are said to have >>>>lived >>>>in >>>>Orion, Oakland County and according to SSDI they did. >>>>Lawrence was supposedly a minister at a Church named Stone Baptist >>>>Church. I >>>>can't find anything about it so it may not have been in Orion.. >>>>Lawrence and Esther had a daughter named Betty June DICKEN(S). I don't >>>>know >>>>if they had any other children or not. He also had a brother named >>>>Loren. >>>>Lawrence died March 08, 1994 and Esther died February 18, 1992 both in >>>>Orion, Oakland Co. MI. >>>>Would like to know where they are buried and maybe someone could get >>>>their >>>>obits for me? Would appreciate any help at all on any of the above. >>>>Thanks in advance, >>>>Rita >>>>rainbowD@peoplepc.com >>>> >>>>Rita: >>>> >>>>I went on line to the Orion Public Library's website which has the local >>>>newspaper online. I put Lawrence, Esther Dicken(s) as well as their >>>>daughter as >>>>well as the name of the church. Came up blank for all names. >>>>Therefore, >>>>I >>>>don't believe that you have the correct town for any of your facts. I >>>>also >>>>checked for the spelling as Dickin(s). >>>> >>>>I would suggest that you send for the death certificates for all >>>>concerned >>>> >>>> >>>>from Oakland County to see what the death certificate actually has to >>> >>> >>>>say >>>>about >>>>place of death and burial. From that reference you can then search for >>>>an >>>>obituary. The obituary was not found in the Lake Orion Review which is >>>>the local >>>>paper for that area. If they had been there and an obituary published >>>>it >>>>would have come up with a hit. >>>> >>>>Christie Trapp >>>> >>>> >>>>==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== >>>>You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org >>>> >>>>============================== >>>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== >>>You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org >>> >>>============================== >>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >