--=======1EFC82A======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3E652A18; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all; It is possible that Stone Baptist church doesn't exist any more. There has been very significant amounts of urban spread in the past 20 or 30 years around the Auburn Hts, Rochester, Avon twp (Roch. Hills), and Orion twp area. I haven't been down Auburn Rd, in over 20 yrs. I do remember the church in question. I just can't place what side of the road it was on. I want to say the south side, but it may have been on the north. The church set back a ways from the road and had trees around it. (At least some shade of some sort). There are some hills going towards the east from Auburn Hts on Auburn Rd, with a fairly large hill (for the area) as the last hill to go down before getting to Crooks Rd. The church was at the bottom of that hill. I remember that if the traffic light at Crooks Rd had just turned green as I topped the hill, I could make the light if I didn't slow down. The hill was about a half mile or more from Crooks. Back before M59 was a freeway, M59 used to be Auburn Rd. That road went all the way to Selfridge Air Force Base near Mt Clemens. It was what used to be called a truck route. The light stayed green extra long at Crooks so that the truckers wouldn't have to stop after getting rolling so good down that hill. Avon township, Auburn Hts and Orion township are not really far on a map. But remember that there were no freeways around there before about 1960/65. For someone to live in Orion township and work at the southwest part of Avon township would have been a trek of 10 miles or so, depending on where in Orion township the person lived. That was a pretty far distance to travel back then, especially if they were not working at Truck & Coach or Pontiac Motors. If the person lived in Clarkston, then the trip would have been almost unheard of back then. It is possible that maybe Lawrence was the pastor at Stone baptist and then retired to Clarkston. I do believe that the resident pastor at Stone Baptist lived local to the church. If the church has disbanded, it is very unlikely that any records have survived, at least not at the district level, as Baptist churches are mostly autonomous. I know that when I wanted to send for my baptism papers to join a church down here in Texas, I was told that the church I was baptised in disbanded and that any baptismal papers the church may have had were now non-existant. Lake Orion and Rochester are 12 miles apart. Clarkston is about 12 or 15 miles west of Lake Orion. Lake Orion is about 10 -12 miles north of Pontiac. The townships in the below listed map are 6 miles on a side. Stone Baptist would be near the intersection of the lines of Troy, Rochester Hills, Auburn Hills and Bloomfield Hills. I would think that the Oakland County Courthouse would have the death certificates and that might tell what funeral home they were viewed in etc. I do believe that Sparks-Griffin (Griffin) Funeral Home in Lk Orion is the same one that has been there since the beginning of time. That might be the place to call. I had some luck there a couple of years ago in locating some of my lateral family. Here is their phone number. 248-693-8336 Goyette Funeral Home, 5929 S Main St, Clarkston, MI, 48346, 248-625-1766 Harold R Davis Funeral Home, 3530 Auburn Rd, Auburn Hills, MI, 48326, 248-852-1800 Lewis E Wint & Son Funeral Inc, 5929 S Main St, Clarkston, MI, 48346, 248-625-5231 Pixley Funeral Home, 322 W University Dr, Rochester, MI, 48307, 248-651-9641 A J Desmond & Sons Funeral, 2600 Crooks Rd, Troy, MI, 48084, 248-362-2500 The above are some local area funeral homes that you may call. They might have info on your Dickens family members. Good luck on your quest. Dan Harriman Orange, Texas >To give you an idea of close Orion, Clarkston and Auburn Hill are here's a >link to a basic Oakland Co. map. >http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/oss/assets/docs/base_CVTs_letter.pdf > > >I couldn't find a listing for Stone Baptist Church in the yellow pages nor >in the online Baptist church listing at >http://phonebook.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Baptist+Churches/S-MI/page-1/. >Could it be that stone is not part of the formal name but a physical >description and common name? >>>Rita DonCarlos rainbowd@peoplepc.com >>>Subject: Lawrence DICKEN(S) in Oakland, MI >>>Seeking info on Lawrence and Esther DICKEN(S). They are said to have >>>lived in >>>Orion, Oakland County and according to SSDI they did. >>>Lawrence was supposedly a minister at a Church named Stone Baptist >>>Church. I >>>can't find anything about it so it may not have been in Orion.. >>>Lawrence and Esther had a daughter named Betty June DICKEN(S). I don't know >>>if they had any other children or not. He also had a brother named Loren. >>>Lawrence died March 08, 1994 and Esther died February 18, 1992 both in >>>Orion, Oakland Co. MI. >>>Would like to know where they are buried and maybe someone could get their >>>obits for me? Would appreciate any help at all on any of the above. >>>Thanks in advance, >>>Rita >>>rainbowD@peoplepc.com . If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving! dit dit --=======1EFC82A======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3E652A18 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.644 / Virus Database: 412 - Release Date: 03/26/2004 --=======1EFC82A=======--
I live 2 miles from this site. I will drive by there later today and look it over. My mother lives in a trailer park on the North side of the road at the top of that hill. It is an "over 55" park, and by the looks of some of the trailers, has been there 20+ years. Dan, do you remember it? Thanks, Pam Pamela A. Warren www.warrenweb.info -----Original Message----- From: Dan Harriman [mailto:kc5gxl@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:18 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] Lawrence-Esther Dickens - Orion, MI --=======1EFC82A======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3E652A18; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all; It is possible that Stone Baptist church doesn't exist any more. There has been very significant amounts of urban spread in the past 20 or 30 years around the Auburn Hts, Rochester, Avon twp (Roch. Hills), and Orion twp area. I haven't been down Auburn Rd, in over 20 yrs. I do remember the church in question. I just can't place what side of the road it was on. I want to say the south side, but it may have been on the north. The church set back a ways from the road and had trees around it. (At least some shade of some sort). There are some hills going towards the east from Auburn Hts on Auburn Rd, with a fairly large hill (for the area) as the last hill to go down before getting to Crooks Rd. The church was at the bottom of that hill. I remember that if the traffic light at Crooks Rd had just turned green as I topped the hill, I could make the light if I didn't slow down. The hill was about a half mile or more from Crooks. Back before M59 was a freeway, M59 used to be Auburn Rd. That road went all the way to Selfridge Air Force Base near Mt Clemens. It was what used to be called a truck route. The light stayed green extra long at Crooks so that the truckers wouldn't have to stop after getting rolling so good down that hill. Avon township, Auburn Hts and Orion township are not really far on a map. But remember that there were no freeways around there before about 1960/65. For someone to live in Orion township and work at the southwest part of Avon township would have been a trek of 10 miles or so, depending on where in Orion township the person lived. That was a pretty far distance to travel back then, especially if they were not working at Truck & Coach or Pontiac Motors. If the person lived in Clarkston, then the trip would have been almost unheard of back then. It is possible that maybe Lawrence was the pastor at Stone baptist and then retired to Clarkston. I do believe that the resident pastor at Stone Baptist lived local to the church. If the church has disbanded, it is very unlikely that any records have survived, at least not at the district level, as Baptist churches are mostly autonomous. I know that when I wanted to send for my baptism papers to join a church down here in Texas, I was told that the church I was baptised in disbanded and that any baptismal papers the church may have had were now non-existant. Lake Orion and Rochester are 12 miles apart. Clarkston is about 12 or 15 miles west of Lake Orion. Lake Orion is about 10 -12 miles north of Pontiac. The townships in the below listed map are 6 miles on a side. Stone Baptist would be near the intersection of the lines of Troy, Rochester Hills, Auburn Hills and Bloomfield Hills. I would think that the Oakland County Courthouse would have the death certificates and that might tell what funeral home they were viewed in etc. I do believe that Sparks-Griffin (Griffin) Funeral Home in Lk Orion is the same one that has been there since the beginning of time. That might be the place to call. I had some luck there a couple of years ago in locating some of my lateral family. Here is their phone number. 248-693-8336 Goyette Funeral Home, 5929 S Main St, Clarkston, MI, 48346, 248-625-1766 Harold R Davis Funeral Home, 3530 Auburn Rd, Auburn Hills, MI, 48326, 248-852-1800 Lewis E Wint & Son Funeral Inc, 5929 S Main St, Clarkston, MI, 48346, 248-625-5231 Pixley Funeral Home, 322 W University Dr, Rochester, MI, 48307, 248-651-9641 A J Desmond & Sons Funeral, 2600 Crooks Rd, Troy, MI, 48084, 248-362-2500 The above are some local area funeral homes that you may call. They might have info on your Dickens family members. Good luck on your quest. Dan Harriman Orange, Texas >To give you an idea of close Orion, Clarkston and Auburn Hill are >here's a >link to a basic Oakland Co. map. >http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/oss/assets/docs/base_CVTs_letter.pdf > > >I couldn't find a listing for Stone Baptist Church in the yellow pages >nor >in the online Baptist church listing at >http://phonebook.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Baptist+Churches/S-MI/page-1/ . >Could it be that stone is not part of the formal name but a physical >description and common name? >>>Rita DonCarlos rainbowd@peoplepc.com >>>Subject: Lawrence DICKEN(S) in Oakland, MI >>>Seeking info on Lawrence and Esther DICKEN(S). They are said to have >>>lived in >>>Orion, Oakland County and according to SSDI they did. >>>Lawrence was supposedly a minister at a Church named Stone Baptist >>>Church. I >>>can't find anything about it so it may not have been in Orion.. >>>Lawrence and Esther had a daughter named Betty June DICKEN(S). I don't know >>>if they had any other children or not. He also had a brother named Loren. >>>Lawrence died March 08, 1994 and Esther died February 18, 1992 both in >>>Orion, Oakland Co. MI. >>>Would like to know where they are buried and maybe someone could get their >>>obits for me? Would appreciate any help at all on any of the above. >>>Thanks in advance, >>>Rita >>>rainbowD@peoplepc.com . If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving! dit dit --=======1EFC82A======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3E652A18 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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