Am I understanding this right? Does it mean that before I could look at a probate record in Oakland county, MI that I would need a death certificate for the person? Is this true for all counties in MI? Marilyn Bess ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChristieTrapp@aol.com> To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:54 PM Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Probate Court Files > In a message dated 11/17/2004 8:00:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, > MIOAKLAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > "Karen Ansley Krugman" Karen@miprofgenie.com > > Christie, > I think the death certificate is more to ascertain that the person on the > probate file and the person on the death certificate are the same person. I > know its crazy, but to be honest I've yet to fully understand the probate > department at the Oakland County courthouse. The probate files that are in > Oakland county are all on Microfilm and they have ONE yes count it, ONE > microfilm copier/reader, so at times it can be tough to get what you want > copied. > Karen > Matching a death certificate to a probate file does not make any sense to me. > The reason I say this is that while the names could match, what happens when > you are dealing with an ancillary probate. That is, a probate that is done > because the decedent happened to have property in that county, but didn't live > there. How is a death certificate, in those cases, going to prove you are > talking about the same person, particularly if the death occurred in say Florida > because that is where the person actually resided at time of death? > > For those of you who are unfamiliar with probate law, an ancillary probate > comes into play when a person lives in another state, dies in another state, but > owns property in Oakland county (or in any county in Michigan). The original > probate is filed in the state of residence, let's say Florida. A death > certificate is issued by the State of Florida. During the probate proceedings, it > is learned that the decedent also owned a home or property in Michigan. An > ancillary probate is opened in Michigan to handle the distribution of that > property located in the state of Michigan. > > Whether this particular probate method was applicable back in the late 1800s, > early 1900s, I don't know. > > Another question. If you are asking for a probate that occurred right around > the time vital records were beginning how in the heck can the court expect > you to produce a death certificate for these old records? Has the court > provided any kind of inkling as to this question? > > Are they only asking for death certificates for those deaths that have > occurred since 2001? Or are they asking for certs for any and all probates since > 1867? > > Christie Trapp > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.797 / Virus Database: 541 - Release Date: 11/15/2004