Hello listers, I hope someone can help me. I am looking for anyone who knew John Albert Kish, born 9 Jan 1915, died 22 Mar 1993 in Pontiac, Oakland Co., Michigan. His last place of residence was Bloomfield Hills, Oakland Co., Michigan. I would like to know where he was and what was his profession during the years 1956-1959. This is about all I know of him at present. Thanks in advance for any information you all can provide. Kay Peterson

This was published in the Royal Oak Daily Tribune today: Genealogical research Southfield The Detroit Society for Genealogical Research will present a program �How To Research There When you Are Here� by Karen Krugman on Saturday, 9/13/03. The program will give instructions on how to do long-distance research. The program starts at 2 p.m. in Room T429 of Learn Auditorium at Lawrence Tech University, 21000 W. 10 Mile Rd., Southfield, MI (enter via 10 Mile entrance and park in lot nearest the new Learning Center Bldg. Signs will be in the doorway). The public is invited and the admission is free. Refreshments will be served before the program. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Someone asked about West Highland Cemetery it is on Hickory Ridge Rd. in Highland, MI. Information about the cemetery can be obtained from the Highland Township Offices. (248-887-3791) They will do a lookup of who is buried in the cemetery by a last name. The Highland Library has some historical information and will tell you the best sources to find more.

Would this have been in Highland Township in the 1930s? Is it still a part of Highland Township? What woud be the best source for 1930s information for this area? I'm interested in directories and obituaries as well as vital records. Thank you very much. Sue Moyer

Hello, does anyone on the list have easy access to the Farmington Hills library?... I am researching the suicide of my gg grandmother's husband William Slocum on July 24, 1884 in Lyon. The name WILLIAM SLOCUM appears in the index to the newspaper obituaries in the R.B. Cook Collection at Farmington Hills Library in Oakland County, and I am wondering if it is not him... thank you for any response! Victoria (New Mexico) Victoria Edwards Tester "All the way to heaven is heaven." --St. Catherine of Sienna

Christie- Thank you for your generous offer to search your records. WM. H. COTHRELL was my 2nd. Gr. Grandfather. He was b. 16 Jan.1817 NY, d. 9 Dec.1903 Grand Rapids, Kent Co. MI. He is listed on the 1870 US Census-Holly Twnshp. Oakland Co. MI.Dwl.134/Fam.#125. 1880 US Census-Holly Twnshp.Oakland Co. MI. Dwl.#21/Fam.#21. 1900 US Census Grand Rapids, Kent Co. MI. Dwl.#301, Fam.#28, Hshld. of John DOZEMAN & wife EUNICE Eunice was the dau. of WM. H. COTHRELL. LAURA/LORA COTHRELL is not listed on the 1900 US Census so she may have died in Oakland Co. MI. between the 1880 & 1900 Census. LORY/LAURA was probably the 2nd. wife of WM. H. COTHRELL & they were probably married in MI. If LORY/LAURA is the mother of HARRISON HOVEY then her 1st.marriage must have been to a HOVEY. Any info. you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Pat O'Sullivan Corona

In a message dated 8/9/2003 2:02:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, MIOAKLAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > From: PCorona10@aol.com > To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1e4.e9cf765.2c651466@aol.com> > Subject: [MIOAKLAN] HOVEY, VAN STEENBERG > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > HARRISON HOVEY is listed on the 1880 US census-Holly Twnshp. Oakland Co. MI. > age 37, blacksmith, married, b. MI. father b NY, mother b. NY. > Harrison is listed as a "Step-son" in the home of WM. H. COTHERELL-Head. > Also listed in the hshld: LORY, age 60- b. NY, father b. Vermont, mother b. > NY. Lory is the wife Wm. H. Cotherell > > LORI HOVEY is listed on the 1880 US census-Holly twnshp.Oakland Co. MI. age > 31, b. MI. father b. NY, mother b. NY. > Lori is a daughter in the hshld. of JANE VAN STEENBERG. Lori is the wife > of HARRISON HOVEY. > > I would appreciate any information on the HOVEY-VAN STEENBERG, COTHERELL > families. > > Thank you. > Pat O'Sullivan Corona- Illinois Holly is in Oakland County, MI. I have the vitals at my local FHL on permanent loan and if you can wait until Thursday, I can check then to see if I find anything about their marriage and/or death. She may be a Van Steenberg by birth and I can check that as well, but for the parents, I can't do anything other than possibly check to see if they married in Michigan or died in Michigan at some time BEFORE 1937. If anything is found after 1919, all I will be able to do is provide you with the book and page so you can send for a certified copy. If it takes place before 1919, then I have access to the original entries and can make copies if you require them once I find them. Let me know if you want me to do a lookup on Thursday or not. Christie Trapp

HARRISON HOVEY is listed on the 1880 US census-Holly Twnshp. Oakland Co. MI. age 37, blacksmith, married, b. MI. father b NY, mother b. NY. Harrison is listed as a "Step-son" in the home of WM. H. COTHERELL-Head. Also listed in the hshld: LORY, age 60- b. NY, father b. Vermont, mother b. NY. Lory is the wife Wm. H. Cotherell LORI HOVEY is listed on the 1880 US census-Holly twnshp.Oakland Co. MI. age 31, b. MI. father b. NY, mother b. NY. Lori is a daughter in the hshld. of JANE VAN STEENBERG. Lori is the wife of HARRISON HOVEY. I would appreciate any information on the HOVEY-VAN STEENBERG, COTHERELL families. Thank you. Pat O'Sullivan Corona- Illinois

Looking for descendants of Fred HAWKINS. Any help appreciated, Bud in Godfrey, IL ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ According to the 1930 census of Oakland County, city of Pontiac, we find Fred J. Hawkins listed as: Head of the household, property valued at $45.00, renting his home ,white male, age 41, married 20 years, not attending school., able to read & write, born in IL, mother born in Illinois, father born in Illinois, a US citizen, occupation: meat cutter in a meat market Living in the household was: Virginia O. , wife, female, white, age 35, age at first marriage- 14, not attending school, can read & write, born in Indiana, Mother & father born in Indiana, occupation- none. Paul R., son , male, white, age 19, single, not attending school, can read & write, born in Kansas, father born in Illinois, mother born in Indiana, occupation: time clerk in an auto factory. James F., son, male, white, age 17, single, attending school, can read & write, born in Illinois, father born in Illinois, mother born in Indiana, no occupation. Dorothy V., daughter, age 14, female, white, single, can read & write, born in Kansas, father born in Illinois, mother born in Indiana, no occupation. Donna L., daughter, female, white, age 3 months, not attending school, cannot read or write, born in Michigan, father born in Illinois, mother born in Indiana, no occupation.

I have emailed those of you who had obit requests taken care of last week. On tap for this week are the following surnames: Burke,Kondos, Ryan, Martin, Good, Veatch, Kibbe, Cheeseman, Cohen, Dabbs. This will fill in my time for this weeks requests. If you got an email from me requesting an address please respond asap so I can remove these papers from my desk. If you have requested an obit in the past and have not heard from me drop a line. Thanks to all for your patience. Karen (Soon to be grandma to Nicholas Alexander!!) Check out some of our web pages: http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) http://www.miprofgenie.com http://www.nebulacomputers.com (Our son's page!) Are you a Boomershine descendant? Vol. 2 is now available! Email me for details! Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012

Dear G. Barrett, Your STIBITZ, KATE is living with Fowler, Warren Head Fowler, Mary Wife Fowler, Roy Son Fowler, Margaret Dau Stibitz, Kate Mother Hughes, G. Servant Please note that she is listed on line 20, Image 3 of 69, Enumeration District 65-5, sheet 2A, printed number 48. Census was taken April 2, 1930 in Avon, Oakland County, Michigan. The family is living on Wood Crest Rd in Avon. Further information on Kate says she is age 84, widow, age 18 at lst marriage, and can read and write. She was born in New York, her father and mother born in Germany. I will freely admit that this census taker could neither spell or write legibly. He is undoubtedly the worst I have seen in many many years of checking the census. He couldn't even spell "MOTHER"!!!! Cordially, Mary Hosteny

I have a Katherine "Katie" (Oberst) wife of Peter J. Stibitz b 4 June 1847 d 24 June 1933 I found her on the 1930 Census: Avon Twp., Oakland, MI age 84 b abt 1846 NY Relationship: MOTHER... Who is she living with ?? Any help would be appreciated. Thank You. G Barrett

There is a website called MichiganSearching which is throug Yahoo groups that can be of help to you. The email address is MichiganSearching@yahoogroups.com There are several people on that list who can be of help to you and answer your questions. Sign on to the site and ask for help. Jean Payton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Krugman" <miprofgenie@wwnet.net> To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: RE: [MIOAKLAN] Adoption in Michigan > Adoption records are pretty much closed in Michigan unless you can go thru > the courts. Good luck! > Karen > > Check out some of our web pages: > * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) > * http://www.miprofgenie.com > * http://www.nebulacomputers.com (Our son's page!) > * Are you a Boomershine descendant? Vol. 2 is now available! Email me for > details! > Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Caroline Landrum [mailto:caroline_landrum@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:34 PM > To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Adoption in Michigan > > > My uncle, born in Michigan in 1919, was adopted first by my grandfather's > sister; then, after her death, my grandfather and grandmother adopted him. > He has been dead now for several years. However, his wife, children, and > grandchildren are still living. Is there any way to acquire copies of his > adoption papers quietly? I do not think that his family is interested in > knowing his origins, but as a genealogist, I would like to have that > information for posterity, if possible. > > Caroline Landrum > > > > > So instead of loving what you think is peace, love other [people] and love > God above all. And instead of hating the people you think are warmakers, > hate the appetites and the disorder in your own soul, which are the causes > of war. If you love peace, then hate injustice, hate tyranny, hate greed - > but hate these things in yourself, not in another. > - Thomas Merton, from "New Seeds of Contemplation" > > Reply address: > caroline_landrum@alum.emory.edu > > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Adoption records are pretty much closed in Michigan unless you can go thru the courts. Good luck! Karen Check out some of our web pages: * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) * http://www.miprofgenie.com * http://www.nebulacomputers.com (Our son's page!) * Are you a Boomershine descendant? Vol. 2 is now available! Email me for details! Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Landrum [mailto:caroline_landrum@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:34 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Adoption in Michigan My uncle, born in Michigan in 1919, was adopted first by my grandfather's sister; then, after her death, my grandfather and grandmother adopted him. He has been dead now for several years. However, his wife, children, and grandchildren are still living. Is there any way to acquire copies of his adoption papers quietly? I do not think that his family is interested in knowing his origins, but as a genealogist, I would like to have that information for posterity, if possible. Caroline Landrum So instead of loving what you think is peace, love other [people] and love God above all. And instead of hating the people you think are warmakers, hate the appetites and the disorder in your own soul, which are the causes of war. If you love peace, then hate injustice, hate tyranny, hate greed - but hate these things in yourself, not in another. - Thomas Merton, from "New Seeds of Contemplation" Reply address: caroline_landrum@alum.emory.edu ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My uncle, born in Michigan in 1919, was adopted first by my grandfather's sister; then, after her death, my grandfather and grandmother adopted him. He has been dead now for several years. However, his wife, children, and grandchildren are still living. Is there any way to acquire copies of his adoption papers quietly? I do not think that his family is interested in knowing his origins, but as a genealogist, I would like to have that information for posterity, if possible. Caroline Landrum So instead of loving what you think is peace, love other [people] and love God above all. And instead of hating the people you think are warmakers, hate the appetites and the disorder in your own soul, which are the causes of war. If you love peace, then hate injustice, hate tyranny, hate greed - but hate these things in yourself, not in another. - Thomas Merton, from "New Seeds of Contemplation" Reply address: caroline_landrum@alum.emory.edu

Hello, listers. I want to research the suicide of my great great grandmother's husband, William Slocum, who died by a "suicide shot" on July 24th, 1884 in the township of Lyon at age 33...he was a farm hand, his parents Marsh and Hannah Slocum...does anyone have access to an old newspaper there in Lyon? I am wondering if there might be some record of events that might shed some light on the event... thank you for any attention, Victoria Tester Victoria Edwards Tester "All the way to heaven is heaven." --St. Catherine of Sienna

Hello. I'd like to make an additional request to those that might not have received my first two emails regarding the Book, "The Michigan 22nd Infantry and the Men Who Served". The book should be completed this fall, with a publication date mid winter 2004, if all things continue to progress as they have. With over 1,658 men the task has been nothing less than monumental and very time consuming. But never the less a labor of love. I have documented nearly 400 men with very good biographical material and either a pre, during or post Civil War picture. I have also photographed nearly as many headstones, grave markers and alike material. The story-line is one issue, but the post war history has been ever increasing in work and research. Therefore, I ask that if you know, or have had any relation or past family member who served in the Michigan 22nd, please provide me with your name and any material, as so I can enter the written or photographic material for the publication. Fee! l free to ask any questions, or provide even the smallest article, as all simply adds to the history and the impact of such a body of work. Respectfully, Douglas M. Casamer Military Genealogist 18775 Armada Ridge Road Armada Twp., Michihgan 48005-4213 http://www.militarygenealogy.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Hi Everyone, My name is Jeannie and several years ago while my aunt and I were visiting in Oakland County, we found out that the family owned 12 unused lots in one cemetery and 3 in another. No one in the family knew anything about these lots and I live in California. My aunt and I were staying with friends who lived in Drayton Plains at the time and I happened to mention this to the man of the house. My aunt and I decided to collect the necessary papers to prove the ownership of these lots, which we did. After a few years I received a call early one morning from the man I mentioned earlier. He was interested in buying all 12 of the lots in the one cemetery. Between my aunt and myself we had gotten the necessary birth, death and marriage certificates, contacted the living relatives that we could find and sold the lots in about a week. Selling the other three lots took a while longer but since they had been bought by my grandfather, there weren't so many relatives to contact. Through an ad in the paper and the help of a cousin living in Troy, we finally sold the three lots. All in all it was quite a nice sum of money and the relatives were pleasantly surprised to get the checks. It is definitely worth the effort to sell the lots if at all possible. Jeannie in California

The Gov. of Mich. name is JENNIFER NOT JANET

I was wondering if someone on this list might have access to Oakland Co. obits and would be willing to conduct an obituary search for me. I am looking for the obituary of Mary Good who died December 14, 1985. I believe she died in Bloomfield but was a resident of Farmington Hills. Thanks for your time and kind consideration, Mindy