Thank you to all who took the time to send the Oakland County Clerk and Resource information. It is much appreciated. Robyn

There is an index of marriages that cover 1867-1937. You indicated one of the marriages may have been about or before 1910. These records which document the marriage information have been microfilmed and are available at your local FHL. As it happens I have ordered those films and there are on permanent loan at my local FHL and I can do a lookup of the names for marriages. The index goes through 1937 and I can provide you with the volume and page numbers for all the names that appear in the index to that time. The cutoff for the actual viewing of the marriage record is about 1919, but some of them weren't microfilmed, so I can't promise that if I find the record before 1919 that it was filmed. To make it simpler. The index sets forth the volume/book and page number. If the marriages appear in books A-G and vol. 1-4, I can view the marriage record on the film. If the book and page number falls on volume 5 to the end of the index, then you will have to order, or go to the courthouse as has been suggested to see what it has. The volumes that are A-G are very basic entries. The names of the parties, the date and place of the marriage, the ages of the couple, the witnesses, the minister or justice who performed the marriage and the date it was recorded. Volumes 1-4 contain more information. Besides the above, it also gives the date the license, the date, place and minister's name. The ages of the parties, the place of residence, place of birth of the parties, their parents names, witnesses, occupation of the parties and in the volumes covered by 3-4, it also gives the number of times they have been married previously. If you wish me to do a lookup I will need to know the names of the parties, the dates or time period you think the marriage took place and to make sure I have the correct parties, if you can also supply the names of their parents that would be a big help in case there are two of the same name. I also have available to me the indexes and the films for births and deaths. The births and deaths start 1867 and end the same period as the marriages. So if you think anyone has died or was born, send me their names, the names of the parents, date of death and anything to let me know I have the right person. The records name the parents, so if you are asking me to do a look up on the married ladies, then I need to know the name she was using at the time of her death and who her parents are. Christie Trapp

----- Original Message ----- From: "Utopian" <utopian_48316@yahoo.com> To: "Ann Parsons" <aparsons2003@msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > How very rude of you.

Oakland County Clerk/Register of Deeds Oakland County Clerk/Register of Deeds. ... www.co.oakland.mi.us/clerkrod/ Oakland County. Oakland County Clerk 1200 North Telegraph Road Pontiac, MI 48341 Phone: 248-858-0572 Also see: http://www.vitalrec.com/micounties4.html Oakland County Vital Records Office Oakland County Clerk 1200 North Telegraph Road Pontiac, MI 48053-1008 (248) 858-0572Oakland County Genealogical Society Box 1094 Birmingham, MI 48012Rec TypeCostDatesFormRemarksBirthOrder FormMarriageOrder FormDeathOrder FormRelated Links: (Suggest a link)--> Oakland County USGenWeb Oakland County, Michigan Vital Records, 1800-1917 1920 U.S. Federal Census - Oakland Snowpeople fall from Heaven unassembled. Reply address: caroline_landrum@alum.emory.edu

For what it is worth. I have tried writing and telephoning. Neither works. The staff evidently does not know they are public servants and our taxes pay their wages. Then again maybe in Michigan that is the way it is supposed to work. I would try the Random Acts of Kindness site. I have some of the Oakland County Genealogical Society cemetery books that I would be glad to do a look up for you. Ann in New Mexico USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "dblrranch@hotmail.com" <DBLRRANCH@hotmail.com> To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > Re: Oakland County Courthouse > Could you also tell us if it is best to just write to the courthouse if > we > do not live nearby? > Thank You. > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> > To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:16 PM > Subject: RE: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > > > > Susanne, > > Wish you had posted this one day sooner, I was just at the > courthouse > > this morning. > > The wonderful thing about Oakland County is that you can look > without > > paying. Marriages and deaths pre 1940 are open books. So you can go > search > > for yourself without a fee being imposed. You have to go to vital > records > > on ground floor and ask to do "genealogy" research. You then must > fill > out > > a form, and then you can look at the books. So if you are able to > come > to > > Oakland County and look its relatively simple. > > There is a data base on Ancestry of Oakland County records, but I > don't > > really know what all it encompasses. Perhaps someone else on the > board > > might be able to assist you in that department. > > Hope this was of some help to you. > > Karen (In Oakland County) > > > > Check out some of our web pages: > > * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) > > * http://www.miprofgenie.com > > * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames > > > > Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SHieber@aol.com [mailto:SHieber@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:02 PM > > To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > > > > > > I have now discovered a possible 'twig' on my tree that lived in > Oakland > Co > > on the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census. On his WWI Draft Registrtion he also > lived > > in > > Oakland County. > > > > I do not have a marriage date or death date. > > I suspect the marriage could have happened in the 1910s. > > The man was 60 in 1930, so I would say the death was probably in the > 1930s > > or > > 1940s. > > > > Are there any microfilm or printed indexes, that I could look, in > Oakland > > County to get a time of the event, so I could then go to the court > house > for > > the > > documents? > > > > What library would hold these items about Oakland County. Thanks for > your > > help. > > > > Susanne > > > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Robyn, If you have the patience to write and it works for you go for it. You may also visit the Oakland County Courthouse web site and order your vital records DIRECTLY from them. It is not cheap, but if you don't want to write and wait, or hire someone, ordering directly from them may be the answer. I would give you the URL but it appears that there is a problem with that website right now. If you would like to try it for yourself go to google.com and type in Oakland County Clerk/Courthouse or something along those lines. That should get you to the site (once it starts to work again) and then you can get the details on ordering directly from them! Karen (in Oakland County) Check out some of our web pages: * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) * http://www.miprofgenie.com * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 -----Original Message----- From: dblrranch@hotmail.com [mailto:DBLRRANCH@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:24 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources Re: Oakland County Courthouse Could you also tell us if it is best to just write to the courthouse if we do not live nearby? Thank You. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > Susanne, > Wish you had posted this one day sooner, I was just at the courthouse > this morning. > The wonderful thing about Oakland County is that you can look without > paying. Marriages and deaths pre 1940 are open books. So you can go search > for yourself without a fee being imposed. You have to go to vital records > on ground floor and ask to do "genealogy" research. You then must fill out > a form, and then you can look at the books. So if you are able to come to > Oakland County and look its relatively simple. > There is a data base on Ancestry of Oakland County records, but I don't > really know what all it encompasses. Perhaps someone else on the board > might be able to assist you in that department. > Hope this was of some help to you. > Karen (In Oakland County) > > Check out some of our web pages: > * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) > * http://www.miprofgenie.com > * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames > > Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SHieber@aol.com [mailto:SHieber@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:02 PM > To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > > > I have now discovered a possible 'twig' on my tree that lived in Oakland Co > on the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census. On his WWI Draft Registrtion he also lived > in > Oakland County. > > I do not have a marriage date or death date. > I suspect the marriage could have happened in the 1910s. > The man was 60 in 1930, so I would say the death was probably in the 1930s > or > 1940s. > > Are there any microfilm or printed indexes, that I could look, in Oakland > County to get a time of the event, so I could then go to the court house for > the > documents? > > What library would hold these items about Oakland County. Thanks for your > help. > > Susanne > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi! I'd suggest that you go to RAOGK.com and ask one of the lookup volunteers to help you. Oakland Co. has **wonderful** volunteers!!! Mary --- Karen Ansley Krugman <Karen@miprofgenie.com> wrote: > Robyn, > If you have the patience to write and it works > for you go for it. You > may also visit the Oakland County Courthouse web > site and order your vital > records DIRECTLY from them. It is not cheap, but if > you don't want to write > and wait, or hire someone, ordering directly from > them may be the answer. > I would give you the URL but it appears that there > is a problem with that > website right now. > If you would like to try it for yourself go to > google.com and type in > Oakland County Clerk/Courthouse or something along > those lines. That should > get you to the site (once it starts to work again) > and then you can get the > details on ordering directly from them! > Karen (in Oakland County) > > Check out some of our web pages: > * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) > * http://www.miprofgenie.com > * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon > surnames > > Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dblrranch@hotmail.com > [mailto:DBLRRANCH@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:24 PM > To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > > > Re: Oakland County Courthouse > Could you also tell us if it is best to just write > to the courthouse if we > do not live nearby? > Thank You. > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Ansley Krugman" > <Karen@miprofgenie.com> > To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:16 PM > Subject: RE: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > > > > Susanne, > > Wish you had posted this one day sooner, I > was just at the courthouse > > this morning. > > The wonderful thing about Oakland County is > that you can look > without > > paying. Marriages and deaths pre 1940 are open > books. So you can go > search > > for yourself without a fee being imposed. You > have to go to vital > records > > on ground floor and ask to do "genealogy" > research. You then must fill > out > > a form, and then you can look at the books. So > if you are able to come > to > > Oakland County and look its relatively simple. > > There is a data base on Ancestry of Oakland > County records, but I > don't > > really know what all it encompasses. Perhaps > someone else on the board > > might be able to assist you in that department. > > Hope this was of some help to you. > > Karen (In Oakland County) > > > > Check out some of our web pages: > > * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home > page) > > * http://www.miprofgenie.com > > * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon > surnames > > > > Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI > 48012 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SHieber@aol.com [mailto:SHieber@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:02 PM > > To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > > > > > > I have now discovered a possible 'twig' on my > tree that lived in Oakland > Co > > on the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census. On his WWI > Draft Registrtion he also > lived > > in > > Oakland County. > > > > I do not have a marriage date or death date. > > I suspect the marriage could have happened in > the 1910s. > > The man was 60 in 1930, so I would say the death > was probably in the > 1930s > > or > > 1940s. > > > > Are there any microfilm or printed indexes, that > I could look, in > Oakland > > County to get a time of the event, so I could > then go to the court house > for > > the > > documents? > > > > What library would hold these items about > Oakland County. Thanks for > your > > help. > > > > Susanne > > > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > > You can contact the listowner at > Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > > You can contact the listowner at > Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at > Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Re: Oakland County Courthouse Could you also tell us if it is best to just write to the courthouse if we do not live nearby? Thank You. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> To: <MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > Susanne, > Wish you had posted this one day sooner, I was just at the courthouse > this morning. > The wonderful thing about Oakland County is that you can look without > paying. Marriages and deaths pre 1940 are open books. So you can go search > for yourself without a fee being imposed. You have to go to vital records > on ground floor and ask to do "genealogy" research. You then must fill out > a form, and then you can look at the books. So if you are able to come to > Oakland County and look its relatively simple. > There is a data base on Ancestry of Oakland County records, but I don't > really know what all it encompasses. Perhaps someone else on the board > might be able to assist you in that department. > Hope this was of some help to you. > Karen (In Oakland County) > > Check out some of our web pages: > * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) > * http://www.miprofgenie.com > * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames > > Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SHieber@aol.com [mailto:SHieber@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:02 PM > To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources > > > I have now discovered a possible 'twig' on my tree that lived in Oakland Co > on the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census. On his WWI Draft Registrtion he also lived > in > Oakland County. > > I do not have a marriage date or death date. > I suspect the marriage could have happened in the 1910s. > The man was 60 in 1930, so I would say the death was probably in the 1930s > or > 1940s. > > Are there any microfilm or printed indexes, that I could look, in Oakland > County to get a time of the event, so I could then go to the court house for > the > documents? > > What library would hold these items about Oakland County. Thanks for your > help. > > Susanne > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Susanne, Wish you had posted this one day sooner, I was just at the courthouse this morning. The wonderful thing about Oakland County is that you can look without paying. Marriages and deaths pre 1940 are open books. So you can go search for yourself without a fee being imposed. You have to go to vital records on ground floor and ask to do "genealogy" research. You then must fill out a form, and then you can look at the books. So if you are able to come to Oakland County and look its relatively simple. There is a data base on Ancestry of Oakland County records, but I don't really know what all it encompasses. Perhaps someone else on the board might be able to assist you in that department. Hope this was of some help to you. Karen (In Oakland County) Check out some of our web pages: * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) * http://www.miprofgenie.com * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 -----Original Message----- From: SHieber@aol.com [mailto:SHieber@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:02 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Oakland Co. Resources I have now discovered a possible 'twig' on my tree that lived in Oakland Co on the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census. On his WWI Draft Registrtion he also lived in Oakland County. I do not have a marriage date or death date. I suspect the marriage could have happened in the 1910s. The man was 60 in 1930, so I would say the death was probably in the 1930s or 1940s. Are there any microfilm or printed indexes, that I could look, in Oakland County to get a time of the event, so I could then go to the court house for the documents? What library would hold these items about Oakland County. Thanks for your help. Susanne ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I have now discovered a possible 'twig' on my tree that lived in Oakland Co on the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census. On his WWI Draft Registrtion he also lived in Oakland County. I do not have a marriage date or death date. I suspect the marriage could have happened in the 1910s. The man was 60 in 1930, so I would say the death was probably in the 1930s or 1940s. Are there any microfilm or printed indexes, that I could look, in Oakland County to get a time of the event, so I could then go to the court house for the documents? What library would hold these items about Oakland County. Thanks for your help. Susanne

I am new to this list and this area. I would like to make contact with anyone who has any info on: Olive DENNIS b. 1883 in PA/ d. Dec 1977 in Clawson, MI. I have info to share on her sibs and parents. I have no info on her husband nor children. It appears that Olive married after May 1910. Thanks for any help, Sharon

I think there's a typo here. Who are the parents you have for Sarah Ann Lockwood? Lorelei -----Original Message----- From: Coralyn [mailto:bonjourcd@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 5:12 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Perry Hunt and Bela Cogshall of Groveland 1815-1900 Seeking information about two brothers-in-law who lived in Groveland between 1825 and 1900: 1. Bela COGSHALL b: Feb 1816 in NY; d: 21 Oct 1882 in Holly; m: Susan "Sarah" Jane HUNT 18 Aug 1836 in NY (daughter of Henry and Mary [Snyder] Hunt); children: James Henry, Esther Ann, Bela, Sarah Maranda, and Smith Martin (or rather, Martin Smith?). I believe Bela is buried in Mt. Bethel Cemetery in Ortonville/Groveland. What was Bela COGSHALL'S profession? Was he notable in the Groveland community, or in Oakland County? Is biographical information available about him? Where in NY was Bela born? Where were Bela and Sarah married? Did any of their children continue to live in Oakland County? What were the names of Bela's parents? 2. Perry HUNT b: 28 April 1822 in NY; d: 27 March 1902 in Groveland; m: Sarah Ann LOCKWOOD abt 1853 (where?) (daughter of Henry HUNT and Mary [Snyder] Hunt); children: Charles, Bela B., Matthew M., Susan Arminda, Henry Ben, William Perry, Mary Ann, John Bird, Israel, Laura B., and Sara Emma. Perry's parents were Henry and Mary (Snyder) Hunt of Groveland. Perry is also buried in Mt. Bethel Cemetery in Groveland, I believe. What was Perry HUNT's profession? Was Perry notable in the Groveland community, or in Oakland County? Is biographical information available about him? Where in NY was Perry born? Where were Perry and Sarah married? Did any of their children continue to live in Oakland County? What were the names of Sarah's parents? Thank you for any additional information you can share. Coralyn Daniels bonjourcd@comcast.net ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Seeking information about two brothers-in-law who lived in Groveland between 1825 and 1900: 1. Bela COGSHALL b: Feb 1816 in NY; d: 21 Oct 1882 in Holly; m: Susan "Sarah" Jane HUNT 18 Aug 1836 in NY (daughter of Henry and Mary [Snyder] Hunt); children: James Henry, Esther Ann, Bela, Sarah Maranda, and Smith Martin (or rather, Martin Smith?). I believe Bela is buried in Mt. Bethel Cemetery in Ortonville/Groveland. What was Bela COGSHALL'S profession? Was he notable in the Groveland community, or in Oakland County? Is biographical information available about him? Where in NY was Bela born? Where were Bela and Sarah married? Did any of their children continue to live in Oakland County? What were the names of Bela's parents? 2. Perry HUNT b: 28 April 1822 in NY; d: 27 March 1902 in Groveland; m: Sarah Ann LOCKWOOD abt 1853 (where?) (daughter of Henry HUNT and Mary [Snyder] Hunt); children: Charles, Bela B., Matthew M., Susan Arminda, Henry Ben, William Perry, Mary Ann, John Bird, Israel, Laura B., and Sara Emma. Perry's parents were Henry and Mary (Snyder) Hunt of Groveland. Perry is also buried in Mt. Bethel Cemetery in Groveland, I believe. What was Perry HUNT's profession? Was Perry notable in the Groveland community, or in Oakland County? Is biographical information available about him? Where in NY was Perry born? Where were Perry and Sarah married? Did any of their children continue to live in Oakland County? What were the names of Sarah's parents? Thank you for any additional information you can share. Coralyn Daniels bonjourcd@comcast.net

Hi Mary and listers, I graduated from the same school but it was renamed Dondero H.S. Unfortunately, the Royal Oak School Board is planning to consolidate the two high schools (Dondero & Kimball) in the near future. Dondero will become a middle school...it's a real shame that this is happening! Rosie (1960's graduate) ################## I just "inherited" my aunt's 1920 yearbook from Royal Oak High School, in Royal Oak, MI. It is called "The Oak". If anyone would like a pic of their graduate, would be glad to look it up, scan and send it as an attachment to email. Mary. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!

I just "inherited" my aunt's 1920 yearbook from Royal Oak High School, in Royal Oak, MI. It is called "The Oak". If anyone would like a pic of their graduate, would be glad to look it up, scan and send it as an attachment to email. Mary. Reply to: marlu@tir.com

Hi List, Results #2 - Oakland County Probate Index: 1852-1868: These are further results of my search of the index of Oakland Probate, LDS Film #927422, compiled by Alice SORRELL for DAR in 1956. These results only cover the time period from 1852 through 1868. If there was no entry for your name in that index, then I state that below. If I did find your name, then I provide the reference number. The film also has abstracts of these probate files. I wish I had time to copy all of the entries, but as you can see from the number of hits, it would take me many hours to copy and type all of the abstracts. This list is in alphabetical order. Here goes: There are a total of 28 different first names under the surname AXFORD. Axford, Elias M.: none. Axford, Elizabeth: #2291. Axford, John: there are 22 entries for John in the index! Axford, John S.: there are no entries for John S., but see above. Axford, John Kinney: #1422. Axford, Melvina : none. Axford, Morgan and Rebecca: none. Axford, Oscar : none. Axford, Ross : none. Banghart, Jacob Cummings: #2345. Banghart, Lawrence: none. Barrett, Charity: none. Barrett, L. H.: there are 22 entries with this surname, but none beginning with an L. There are 39 different entries in the index for BEARDSLEE/BEARDSLEY. Beardslee/ley, Aaron: none. Beardslee/ley, Asa: #2185, #1636. Beardslee/ley, Eliza : #2206, #1357. Beardslee/ley, Jane : #2600. Beardslee/ley, John : #1217, # 1527, # 2600, #1306. Beardslee/ley, Lewis : #1445. Beardslee/ley, Lovina : none. Beardslee/ley, Rachel : none. Beardslee/ley, Ruth E.: none. Beardslee/ley, Saron/Sharon : none. Beardslee/ley, Thomas : none. Beardslee/ley, William #2600. Bowers, John : none. Bowers, Jonas and Mary: #1052. Brewster, Ezra : #1427. Brewster, Hannah : #1427. Bromley, Andrew J. : no Andrew but others with this surname. Carey, Ward : none. Giddings, Alan/Almon : none. Giddings, Almon : none. Giddings, Lola : none. Goodrich, Deborah : none. Gulick, Henry # 1772, #2454 Gulick, Patricia/aka Martha : none. Hammond, Elijah : none. Hammond, Phebe : none. Hummer, Francis Ann/Francina : none Hummer, Lola Melinda : none. Hummer, Tunis D. : none. HUMMER, Gideon L.: #1065 is the only HUMMER in the index. Kneass, Sally Boalsbee (Axford) : none. Kneass, Christian : none. Kingsland, Loisa : none. Kline, Edna #2298. Kline, Ephraim : none. Look, Elizabeth : none. Look, Josiah B. : none. LOOK, James Maxwell is the only LOOK in the index, # 2585. Maybee, Melinda : none. Miller, Jeremiah C. #1912. Miller, Loisa : #2458, #1772, #1836, #1912. Morgan, Lola: none. Morgan, Merit : none. There are a total of 50+ different PERRY entries in the index. Perry, Abraham/Abram : #1372, #1406, #2016, #2073, #2168, #1253, #1934, #2016. Perry, Elenor : none. Perry, Jacob :#1406, #1566, #1676, #1719, #1934, #2390. Perry, John : #2124, #2505, #1934, #1253, #1676. Perry, Lester M. : #1886. Perry, Margaret : #2503. Perry, Rachel : none. Perry, Sophia : none. Perry, Sarah : #1086, #1934, #2016, #2168, #1886, #1373. There are a total of 20 different PETTY entries in the index. Petty, Catherine : none. Petty, Eve : none. Petty, Jacob : none. Petty, John :#1141, #1970. Petty, Jonathan : #1141, #1877, #1970. Petty, Mary : #1141. Petty, Sarah E. : none. Predmore, Almira : none, but Amsy PEDMORE: #1155. Predmore, Catherine : #1719. Price, William : #1521. Price, Sally : #1521. Rodenbough/Rodenbo Catherine: #1823. Rodenbough/Rodenbo, John : #1494, #1823. Soper, Ann : #1567, #1575. Soper, Owen : #1567, #1575. Sutton, Sylvanus/Sylvester : none. Swayze, Phillip Triller : #1065, #1023. Swayze, Sanford/Sandford : #1023, #1252. Swayze, Sarah: #1065, #1964. Thompson, Casiah : none. Thompson, Otis : none. Thurston, Erastus S. : none. Thurston, Mary Ann : none. Thurston, Orpha : none, but Orra THURSTON: #1268. Thurston, Russell M. : #1268, #1621, #1658. Tuttle, Lydia : none. Tuttle, Samuel : none. VOORHEES and variants has over 65 entries in the index. Voorhis, John: #1276, #2427, #2465, #2338. Vowles, George : #1052, #2205, #2443. Vowles, Sarah : #1052. Walker, Charles : #1023, #1895. Webb, Diadema : #1621, #2249, #2391. Webb, Washington W.: #1621, #2249. Wyckoff, Hannah : #1719, #1934. Wyckoff, William : #1934. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I have access to the book where all of these are printed. SO I thought I would type up a few of the abstracts. Hope these help. Due to time constraints I can't do all of the ones that were listed, I've picked one where there multiples listed. I'll do as many as I can. Please don't ask for lookups, due to time constraints I just can't do them. There is some good information here, hope it helps those of you that requested the lookups. Thanks Tom, for offering the lookups! Karen Benjamin #2545 - Benjamin Augusta, Adella, Guardianship, filed 20 JUN 1867. Heirs of their great great grandfather, Solomon Prentice of Onanadage Co., NY, August is over the age of 14 yrs., Adella is 4 years. Guardian, James D. Benjamin, father. Chester #1572 - Patten, David. Will, dated at Commerce 28 APR 1859, filed 22 Jan, 1859, died ca middle of July, 1858, Heirs" Jennett Patten, widow, Marsha and Martha Patten, children of Dec'd/ Son John Patten and George Patten, son. Marsha was later Marsha Allen. Exec. George Patten. Witnesses to will: Marmgaret Noe, Henry Chester. Cooley #2463 - Lawrence, Frances Eva, Clara Elivra. Guardianship filed 2 NOV 1866, Daus. of William L. Lawrence, dec'd. Frances is age 11 years, Clara is age 8 years. Guardian, Sarah A. Cooley, mother. Debeau/Dibeau #2243 - Debeau/Dubeau, Leonard and others. Guardianship filed 10 APR 1865. Children of Peter Debeau, dec'd. mother is also dec'd. Leonard is 14 years, Francis age 12, Celia age 8 and John is age 6 years. Guard.: Peter Hogan. The children live in Pontiac. Flint #1722 - Flint, Loren. Intestate, filed 28 NOV 1860, died 8 Nov 1860. Heirs, Esther A. Flint, widow, Delos Flint, son and Catherine J. Leavenworth, dau. Adm. Horace B. Johns. Property in Novi Twp. Gragg #1609 - Gragg, Robert. Intestate, filed 15 JUN 1859. Died 15 Nov 1855 in Shiawassee Co. Heirs: Catherine Gragg, Widow (Later married .... Heath) children, Maryette Willcox, John Gragg, Martha Ann Heath, Eliza Jane Gragg, Jarves/James T., George R. and William H. Gragg. Adm. Ebenezer Heathy. Property in Gratiot County, Mich. The family lived in Novi Twp. Oakland Co. (There is reference listed for #1911 - which is the will of John Adams who is apparently the father of Catherine Gragg wife of Robert Gragg). Jones #1033 - Clack, Mary Etta, Guardianship. FIled 28 MAR 1853, Mary Etta is aged 17 years (27 Jul 1852) wife of Amos K. Clack, daughter of Edmond/Ebenezer Jones. Guard.: Major Alderman. Heir to property in PLymouth, Wayne Co., Mi deeded to her by Ebenezer and Lucinda Jones. Resided in Highland Twp. Kyle #1311 - Kyle, William J. Mary., Charles. Guardianship, filed 8 Mar 1856, Heirs of David Kyle dec'd. Charles was age 12 years on 23 Sep last, William J. was 18 years last May, Mary A was age 15 on 20 May last. Guard.: Robert C. Kyle. Surety, William C. Kyle. Family lived in West Bloomfield Twp. Odell #1405 - Odell, Jeremiah. Intestate, filed 12 FEB 1857, died Sunday 25 JAN 1857. Heirs: Eliza Lemora Odell, Widow, Children - Benjamin ae 16, Henry James ae 12, Augustus ae ?, May ae 5, Lewis Manswerth ae 4 years. Adm. Eliza L. Odell. Property in Royal Oak Township. Saxton #1438 - Saxton, Justus. Will, dated at Farmington 6 MAY 1857, codicil 7 MAY 1857, filed 27 MAY 1857, died 15 MAY 1857. Heirs: Hiram G. Saxton, Julh (Sic) Willard, and Justus B. Saxton, Sarah Ann Sage, Harriet O. Sage, Ann Eliza Johns. Exec. Hiram G. Saxton, Rebecca Saxton. Witnesses to will and Codicil: James M. Hoyt, James F. Fairbaniks, Mark Arnold, Hannah Gage. (References to #1692) Seeley #1823 - Rodenbough, John. Will, Oakland Twp. 14 SEP filed 18 Nov, died 3 NOV 1861. Heirs: Catherine H. Rodenbough, widow, Clara A. Rodenbough, granddau., children - Christopher S., Archiblad D. Rodenbough, Sarah Ann Carpenter, Amanda M. AInsley, Amelia E. Seeley - wife of Harvey, Hannah L. Rodenbough. Adm.: Christopyher S. and Archiblad D. Rodenbough, Harvey Seeley. Witnesses to will: Uriah Beebe, Allen A. Smith. Property in Oakland and Addison Twps. Stephens #2594 - Stehens, Edward. Will, dated 23 AUG 1864, filed 19 DEC 1867, died 10 DEC 1867 age 84 years and 3 months. Heirs: Phebe Stephens, widow, Elizabeth P. Goodnow, Julia E. Michael, Phebe S. Russell wife of Daniel, Chilion Stephens, Jonathan T. Stephens, dec'd. Edward and Phebe Stephens were married at Southampton, Suffolk Co., NY 1 JAN 1810 came to Michigan in 1836. Exec. Charles V. Babcock. Witnesses to will: Junious Ten Eyck. Clentnt ? P. Rust. Property is Southfield Twp. Swett #1075 - Sweet, Thomas L., George H. Guardianship. Filed 30 AUG 1853. Children of Green W. Sweet, late of Wisconsin. mother is Caroline Stilwell. THomas, L., was aged 7 years on 6 SEP last and George H. was aged 3 years on 28 May lasat. Guard.: William Stanley/Stinley. The family lived in Bloomfield Twp. Taylor #2556 - Taylor, James, Jane. Guardianship, filed 12 AUG 1867, James is ae 20 years lives in Highland Twp. Janes is ae 17 years, lives in Milford Twp. Children of Jane Taylor dec'd. Father is "Supposed" to be dec'd. Guardian: John S. Andrews. Property. White #1258 - White, Atkinson, Mary J., David and others. Guardianship, filed 12 SEP 1855. Children of James WHite, dec'd and Eliza White, dec'd, and Eliza White. Atkinson was ae 17, Mary Jane ae 15, Dave 14, John 12, Sarah Ann 10, James 8, and Elizabeth ae 6 years. Property in West Bloomfield Twp. Guardian: Eliza White. Check out some of our web pages: * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) * http://www.miprofgenie.com * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012

Hi List, Results #1 - Oakland County Probate Index: 1852-1868: These are the results of my search of the index of Oakland Probate, LDS Film #927422, compiled by Alice SORRELL for DAR in 1956. These results only cover the time period from 1852 through 1868. If there was no entry for your name in that index, then I state that below. If I did find your name, then I provide the reference number. The film also has abstracts of these probate files. I wish I had time to copy all of the entries, but as you can see from the number of hits, it would take me many hours to copy and type all of the abstracts. This list is in alphabetical order. Here goes: BENJAMIN, Augusta and Adella : reference #2545. There are also 33 other BENJAMINs in the index. BILLS: none with this surname. BLANCK: none with this surname. Volney and Caroline BLOSS/BLASS: none with this name. BOYLE: none with this surname. Dennis CALLINAN, CALLAN: none with this name. CHESTER, Henry, reference #1572. COOLEY, Sarah A.: reference #2463. COTHRELL/COTTRELL/COTERELL : none with this surname. DEBEAU or DIBEAU, Celia, Francis John, Leonard, and Peter, all reference #2243. FLINT: Brayton and Hoser, reference #2315, Loren #1722. Brayton, #2325, Catherine #1722, Delos # 1722, E. D. #2303, Esther #1722, Joshua #2087. Lydia FRANKLIN: none with this name. FRENCH: none with this surname. GEARHART: none with this surname. Robert GRAGG/GRAIG/CRAIG: #1609 and #1911. Almond or Almon GREGORY: none with this name. Catharine HEATH: #1609 and #1911. Ebenezer HEATH: #1609 and #1911. James HALL: none with this name. Reuben HALL: none with this name. William HALL: none with this name. HOLMES, John or Catherine: # 2300. Edmund T. JONES: #2210, #2229, #2292, and #1033. William KILE (KYLE): #1676, #1427, #1311, #2403, #1311. Sarah G. McKNITT: none with this name. Henry and Lewis ODELL: #2299, #1405. PRENTICE, Solomon: none with this name. John RETAN/RUTAN: no Johns, but 11 others with this surname. Justus SAXTON: #1438. Rebecca SAXTON: #1438. Arthur Homer SANDERSON: none with this name. Bertha SANDERSON: none with this name. Harvey H. SEELEY: #1823. Edward M. STEPHENS: #2450, #2594, #1651, and many others with this surname. SWARTHOUT: none with this name. SWETT: #1075. TAYLOR, James or Mary: #2556, # 1995, # 1489. TOBIAS: none with this name. UPTHEGROVE: none with this name. WHITE, James: none, Atkinson: #1258, # 1371, Martha: none, Eliza/Elizabeth: #1258, #1371, #2175, Mary: #1193, #1258, #1371, John: #1258, # 1371, Sarah: #1258, #1371, David: #1258, #1371. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

The cemetery you refer to is one of the largest in Oakland County. You can contact them by phone or letter and I am sure they will tell you what you want to know. The phone number is: 248-350-1900 I have found the staff there to be very helpful. Karen (Michigan) Check out some of our web pages: * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) * http://www.miprofgenie.com * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 -----Original Message----- From: RH128212@aol.com [mailto:RH128212@aol.com] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:15 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Cemetery search I am looking for gravesite of my Grandfather Benjamin Franklin Harris, He died in 1940 at Proviident(Providence Hospital). He was a resident of Southfield & is buried at Holy Septechure(sp) Church Cemetery. I would like to find out lot & section number & if any other HARRIS is there. His first wife Clare Crawford Harris died in about 1908. Anyone willing to find this site & info & forward will be be greatly appreciated. Thank You Dick Harris ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I am looking for gravesite of my Grandfather Benjamin Franklin Harris, He died in 1940 at Proviident(Providence Hospital). He was a resident of Southfield & is buried at Holy Septechure(sp) Church Cemetery. I would like to find out lot & section number & if any other HARRIS is there. His first wife Clare Crawford Harris died in about 1908. Anyone willing to find this site & info & forward will be be greatly appreciated. Thank You Dick Harris