Thank you Rosie for the info you sent. I did some rechecking and it looks like Lawrence died in Clarkston, Oakland Co. MI and not Orion. Also asked my Dad about the church and he said the Stone Baptist Church was in Pontiac. He maybe mistaken about the name however, it has been many years since he first heard the name. Can someone tell me if there is a Clarkston in Oakland? Would it be possible to get an obit from the paper there? Any help would be appreciated and again, Thank you Rosie for your help, it is much appreciated. Rita PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Hi Rita... I don't think we have an Orion in Oakland County. I don't find a Stone Baptist Church (on the web) in MI. We do have the city of Lake Orion and I found these web pages: First Baptist Church of Lake Orion, http://www.fbclo.org/ BaptistInfo Directory - TEMPLE BAPTIST CHURCH LAKE ORION, MI Search AT&T, TEMPLE BAPTIST CHURCH. MapQuest Map, 44 BEEBE ST. Find All Baptists in LAKE ORION, LAKE ORION, MI 48362. Search AT&T Reverse ... www.baptistinfo.com/States/MI/48362TEM.HTM - 13k - Cached - Similar pages ################# Seeking info on Lawrence and Esther DICKEN(S). They are said to have lived in Orion, Oakland County and according to SSDI they did. Lawrence was supposedly a minister at a Church named Stone Baptist Church. I can't find anything about it so it may not have been in Orion.. Lawrence and Esther had a daughter named Betty June DICKEN(S). I don't know if they had any other children or not. He also had a brother named Loren. Lawrence died March 08, 1994 and Esther died February 18, 1992 both in Orion, Oakland Co. MI. Would like to know where they are buried and maybe someone could get their obits for me? Would appreciate any help at all on any of the above. Thanks in advance, Rita

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Seeking info on Lawrence and Esther DICKEN(S). They are said to have lived in Orion, Oakland County and according to SSDI they did. Lawrence was supposedly a minister at a Church named Stone Baptist Church. I can't find anything about it so it may not have been in Orion.. Lawrence and Esther had a daughter named Betty June DICKEN(S). I don't know if they had any other children or not. He also had a brother named Loren. Lawrence died March 08, 1994 and Esther died February 18, 1992 both in Orion, Oakland Co. MI. Would like to know where they are buried and maybe someone could get their obits for me? Would appreciate any help at all on any of the above. Thanks in advance, Rita rainbowD@peoplepc.com PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

I believe extra copies of the Oakland Press can be obtained by calling their office.

In the book "Oak Hill Cemetery (older sections) 1822-1991 original research and publication by Pontiac Area Historical & Genealogical Society 1992 reprinted by Oakland County Genealogical Society 2002 The following has been brought to my attention by Joan Chelson and I thought others might find this of interest. On page 269 the entry for VAUGHAN, Ella w/o John C. date of death 8-20-1891 age 33 years Lot 9-183. The Oakland County Death Records Vol 1-2 1867-1902 LDS FHL film #0973983 has the death date of 20 September 1893. Interesting is the death date is 9-1893 and the Lot is 9-183. Ann in New Mexico Sempre Famiglia Always Family

Does anyone have access to the Oakland Gazette and could copy an article for me? I am looking for an article called "Asa Hadsell - E. Todd Family, 1796+, CT, MI". It was in Winter 2001, Vol. 34, Issue 1. Thank you in advance, Terri Mulliken Allen Mesquite, Texas

Dear List, As ususal the kind souls have come through. Thanks to Ken and Mary Jo, I will get the copies I needed. Thanks so much, Michelle in Rochester Hills

Hi List, To all oakland county kind souls. If anyone has yesterdays Oakland Press and wouldnt mind...there was an article in the sports section of the top 15 high school baseball players to watch. I found out to late to get multiples of the article and need a few extra copies. If anyone has this and could send it to me I would be extremely grateful. Michelle Dalton 2865 Grant, Rochester Hills, MI 48309. Thanks so much. Michelle

Sandi, I have a 1942 city directory for Pontiac. If you give me his name, I will see what it shows for his address and job. Carole in Tennessee

If someone is doing obit lookups, could you please see if you can find Dwight Roop, who died March 9, 1990, I believe in Rochester? Thank you so much Karin King

The Walter P. Reuther Library at Wayne State University has a substantial collection of union and UAW archives. Although, I suspect that it features the more prominent leaders and organizers. http://www.reuther.wayne.edu/ Mridalton@aol.com wrote: >Dear Sandi, > I put a quick call into my dad who called his union hall in Ohio. The UAW >was formed in the 1930's. Was unable to verify is any of the plants were >active during the 20's but there are several Ford plants in and around the >Cleveland area. Casting plant, an engine plant and a few others. All places where a >person who was a macinist might be employed. There is a place called The >Solidarity House located in Detroit. They are the keepers of the history of the UAW. >Their phone number is 313 926 5000. Hope this helps. Michelle >PS It would not have been unusual for an employee to move from one plant to >another. As an exsample the Brookpark engine plant near cleveland was staffed >with workers from New York who's plant was closing. That was late 1940's--maybe >early 50's. > > > > > > >==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Dear Sandi, I put a quick call into my dad who called his union hall in Ohio. The UAW was formed in the 1930's. Was unable to verify is any of the plants were active during the 20's but there are several Ford plants in and around the Cleveland area. Casting plant, an engine plant and a few others. All places where a person who was a macinist might be employed. There is a place called The Solidarity House located in Detroit. They are the keepers of the history of the UAW. Their phone number is 313 926 5000. Hope this helps. Michelle PS It would not have been unusual for an employee to move from one plant to another. As an exsample the Brookpark engine plant near cleveland was staffed with workers from New York who's plant was closing. That was late 1940's--maybe early 50's.

Being president of the Ford Genealogy Club I can answer for FORD but not the other automakers or UAW. Ford will NOT release ANY employee records unless the employee signed a release - they do not care if it is yesterday or 150 years ago. I would not think that the UAW would have employee records or things like that but you could always ask. Good luck with your search! Karen Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Ruch [mailto:ojaisandy@ojai.net] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:46 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] United Auto Workers Membership Query Hi, I have a relative who was a machinist in the 1920 census in Cleveland and who was in Pontiac, Mich. by 1937 and died there in 1956. I'm wondering if he was involved in the automobile industry and if I can find out through the UAW. Does anyone know if they can be contacted about something like this? Do they have searchable archives and if so, where? Thanks, Sandi in California ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Karen, (and Sandi,) If I'm not mistaken, I think Sandi's best bet would be to: A. Find out what he was doing in 1930 by checking the 1930 census - he could have changed careers in the time between his 1920 census entry and his entry into Pontiac in 1937. and B. Wait out the short period (roughly eight more years) until the 1940 census is released and gives easy confirmation of employment and occupation. Otherwise, I should think that since Sandi knows the year of his death, hunting down an obit would be another option, since they typically give an occupation and occasionally place of employment. Concetta >>> "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> 4/6/2004 12:16:48 PM >>> Being president of the Ford Genealogy Club I can answer for FORD but not the other automakers or UAW. Ford will NOT release ANY employee records unless the employee signed a release - they do not care if it is yesterday or 150 years ago. I would not think that the UAW would have employee records or things like that but you could always ask. Good luck with your search! Karen Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Ruch [mailto:ojaisandy@ojai.net] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:46 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] United Auto Workers Membership Query Hi, I have a relative who was a machinist in the 1920 census in Cleveland and who was in Pontiac, Mich. by 1937 and died there in 1956. I'm wondering if he was involved in the automobile industry and if I can find out through the UAW. Does anyone know if they can be contacted about something like this? Do they have searchable archives and if so, where? Thanks, Sandi in California ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Christopher, Yes, I am still doing obit lookups, just a bit back logged. It is tax season and we own a tax service so things are a bit busy here right now. But I haven't forgotten the requests, I have them all here and hope to get to Lansing in the next week or so. I'll add your request to my list of requests! Karen Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Sundita [mailto:csundita@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 2:42 AM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Obituary lookups Hello, Is there anyone out there doing obituary lookups (Karen Krugman, perhaps?)? If so, I'd appreciate the obituary of my 2nd great-grandmother's younger sister. It'll (I hope!) help me determine if their little brother was alive at the time. Name: MARTIN, Laura Elizabeth (nie HAMILL) Date of Death: 03 JANUARY 1937 Date of Birth: 15 MAY 1893 Place of Death: Pontiac, MI Thank you very much, --Chris Sundita Washington State __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello, Is there anyone out there doing obituary lookups (Karen Krugman, perhaps?)? If so, I'd appreciate the obituary of my 2nd great-grandmother's younger sister. It'll (I hope!) help me determine if their little brother was alive at the time. Name: MARTIN, Laura Elizabeth (n�e HAMILL) Date of Death: 03 JANUARY 1937 Date of Birth: 15 MAY 1893 Place of Death: Pontiac, MI Thank you very much, --Chris Sundita Washington State __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

Hi, I have a relative who was a machinist in the 1920 census in Cleveland and who was in Pontiac, Mich. by 1937 and died there in 1956. I'm wondering if he was involved in the automobile industry and if I can find out through the UAW. Does anyone know if they can be contacted about something like this? Do they have searchable archives and if so, where? Thanks, Sandi in California

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