You can order the estate directly from Oakland County, however, depending on who gets your request they may also want a copy of a death certificate. They seem to waiver from day to day on what they want and how they want it. You didn't give a death date so I Would suggest that when you write you include a phone number where they can contact you and proof that the person in the will is actually deceased. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Winifred Sihon [mailto:wsihon@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 5:28 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Re: MIOAKLAN-D Digest V04 #123 Could someone please advise me as to the best way to get a copy of a will that is recorded in the Oakland County Probate Court files. I understand that they charge $1 a page and I am glad to pay an additional $10 for your trouble, but I wonder if the court provides copies directly? Thank you. Winnie (in Washington state) ----- Original Message ----- From: <MIOAKLAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <MIOAKLAN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: MIOAKLAN-D Digest V04 #123 ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Could someone please advise me as to the best way to get a copy of a will that is recorded in the Oakland County Probate Court files. I understand that they charge $1 a page and I am glad to pay an additional $10 for your trouble, but I wonder if the court provides copies directly? Thank you. Winnie (in Washington state) ----- Original Message ----- From: <MIOAKLAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <MIOAKLAN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: MIOAKLAN-D Digest V04 #123

Chris-- If the cemetery is in Pontiac, MI (http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mi/tsphoto/oakland/perrymount.htm), maybe the obituary appeared in the Pontiac Press (now called the Oakland Press). Try calling the Pontiac Library reference desk to see if they have the microfilm for 1948...their phone number is 248.758.3943 and their web page is http://www.pontiac.lib.mi.us/ The Oakland Press web page is http://theoaklandpress.com/ Hope this helps some. Rosie in southern Oakland County. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hello, Could someone look up my 3rd great aunt's obituary for me, please? Name: EISENHART, Helen Date of Death: 04 SEPTEMBER 1948 Date of Birth: 01 APRIL 1895 I finally got the opportunity to call the Mt. Perry cemetery in Oakland County, but they said there is no record of her burial there. Helen's daughter is still living and she says that's where her mother is buried. It could be that the cemetery's records don't go far back. Thank you, --Chris Washington State "We can do simple little things...and make someone's day.''

Hello, Could someone look up my 3rd great aunt's obituary for me, please? Name: EISENHART, Helen Date of Death: 04 SEPTEMBER 1948 Date of Birth: 01 APRIL 1895 I finally got the opportunity to call the Mt. Perry cemetery in Oakland County, but they said there is no record of her burial there. Helen's daughter is still living and she says that's where her mother is buried. It could be that the cemetery's records don't go far back. Thank you, --Chris Washington State __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

There's a village or city called Bingham Farms that borders Telegraph and 13 Mile Rd. Maybe the area was owned by them? The Oakland County Pioneer & Historical Society might have info too. http://wwnet.net/%7Eocphs/index.html MIOAKLAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: From: Caroline Landrum To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Bing and Binghamton I currently travel Telegraph Road too and from work everyday and have traveled it often in the past, also. There is a house on the west side with an address plaque that says BING and gives the address. Further south there are some office buildings with the name "Bing" incorporated into the building name (Binghamton or something like that.) ' Does anyone know the history of the Bings and that area of Oakland County? Did they own large portions of land that was later sold off? Was there a community by the name at some point? Just curious? -- Caroline Landrum "We can do simple little things...and make someone's day.''

OCGS will hold it's November meeting on Tuesday, the ninth, at 7:00, St.Stephens Church, 5500 Adams Road, Troy, MI 48098. The church is between Long Lake and Square Lake on Adams. Program: "Church Records of German and Polish Catholic Churches of Detroit". Roman Godzek, Archivist for the Archdiocese of Detroit, will discuss records of some of the ethnic churches of Detroit and surrounding areas. Included will be what records are available and where and how to access them. Those traveling from the south or west of the church on surface streets should be aware that Adams Road is closed between Big Beaver and Wattles for reconstruction of a bridge. Please either follow the official detour along Big Beaver, Coolidge and back to Adams on Wattles, or consider traveling into Troy on Long Lake or Square Lake Road from the west, or Coolidge or Crooks from the South. If you are using I-75, use the Adams Road exit (74) or the Crooks Road exit (72). From exit 74, left at the end of the ramp, then right onto Adams at the light. From exit 72, right at the end of the ramp, left onto Square lake for two miles to Adams, turn left. Thanks, Pam Pamela A. Warren www.warrenweb.info <http://www.warrenweb.info/>

I currently travel Telegraph Road too and from work everyday and have traveled it often in the past, also. There is a house on the west side with an address plaque that says BING and gives the address. Further south there are some office buildings with the name "Bing" incorporated into the building name (Binghamton or something like that.) ' Does anyone know the history of the Bings and that area of Oakland County? Did they own large portions of land that was later sold off? Was there a community by the name at some point? Just curious? -- Caroline Landrum "When people keep telling you that you can't do a thing, you kind of like to try it." -- politician and columnist Margaret Chase Smith, when, at age 67, she announced her presidential candidacy Reply address: caroline_landrum@alum.emory.edu

Hi Chris! You can call them and ask if they have a record of his burial-- 248-334-1563. Let them know you are calling from out of state. I found their number at http://www.geocities.com/histmich/oaklandcem.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hello, I am looking for any EISENHARTs (particularly, Helen) buried at Perry Mt. Park Cemetery. Is there any listing of burials where I can find out if she is buried there? Thank you, --Chris Washington State "You can do simple little things...and make someone's day.''

The Oakland County Genealogical Society is currently reading that cemetery. Not sure of the completion date for the transcriptions, but watch our web site: OCGS website: http://www.rhpl.org/OCGS/ Thanks, Pam Pamela A. Warren www.warrenweb.info -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Sundita [mailto:csundita@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:12 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Perry Mt. Park Cemetery Hello, I am looking for any EISENHARTs (particularly, Helen) buried at Perry Mt. Park Cemetery. Is there any listing of burials where I can find out if she is buried there? Thank you, --Chris Washington State __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

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Hi list. I wonder if anyone please could help me with finding a obituary for Clara Isaacson ,b. 14 Oct 1895 died in Hazel Park ,Oakland County ,Michigan in september 1978??? Thanks in advance for help. Erik in Norway

Erik, I am going to the state library and can look for you. Just for the record, here's what I found on your request - note the full date of death. Clara ISAACSON 14 October 95, 05 September 86, Female Hazel Park, Oakland, Michigan Note that I will not be coming home until Thursday so I will contact you at that point with regards to whether or not I found the obit you asked for. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Hov [mailto:ehovsn@online.no] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:38 PM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIOAKLAN] Obit lookup please Clara Isaacson in Hazel Park Hi list. I wonder if anyone please could help me with finding a obituary for Clara Isaacson ,b. 14 Oct 1895 died in Hazel Park ,Oakland County ,Michigan in september 1978??? Thanks in advance for help. Erik in Norway ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

IF anyone living in the Metro Detroit area is interested in going to Ft Wayne to research, My husband Mark and I are going there TOMORROW, Sat. 10/16/2004. We have room for one other passenger (We have someone else already going) in our car. We leave early tomorrow morning (5:45am) and return tomorrow night (ca11:30) after a dinner stop on the way home. If you are interested and would like to travel with us drop a note today, first come first serve. Any takers? Karen (Birmingham, Oakland County)

Its been great everyone, and I have appreciated all the help very much. For now its time to move on, can someone tell me how to unsubscribe please Thanks and good luck to everyone in their searches Sue

WOW....keep us informed Karen - I have a lot of digging to do in Bloomfield Twp... Donna P At 03:01 PM 10/14/2004 -0600, you wrote: >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:11:27 -0400 >From: "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> >To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <200410140211.i9E2BKmj009521@mail.rootsweb.com> >Subject: Article Today's EAGLE Newspaper >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Bloomfield Township, Oakland County, Michigan > >In an article I found today in the Eagle (local newspaper), there is an >article entitled, "Records as Old as 177 Years to be Posted on Web site". > >The article discusses the fact that some earliest minutes of the Bloomfield >Township meetings are going to be posted to the Bloomfield Township web >site. > >"Book one covers the years 1827 to 1874, another carries the history from >1875 to Apr 1907." > >Then there are other books after this. Not all the images will be posted at >once. They will be jpeg images that can be viewed on the township's web >site. > >No date was given for the images being posted. > >How wonderful to have these images made available on the web and searchable! >Lets hope it happens SOON. > >Karen

Bloomfield Township, Oakland County, Michigan In an article I found today in the Eagle (local newspaper), there is an article entitled, "Records as Old as 177 Years to be Posted on Web site". The article discusses the fact that some earliest minutes of the Bloomfield Township meetings are going to be posted to the Bloomfield Township web site. "Book one covers the years 1827 to 1874, another carries the history from 1875 to Apr 1907." Then there are other books after this. Not all the images will be posted at once. They will be jpeg images that can be viewed on the township's web site. No date was given for the images being posted. How wonderful to have these images made available on the web and searchable! Lets hope it happens SOON. Karen ~Well Behaved Women rarely make history!~

My guess on the reason why is simply the economy. The State of Michigan depends heavily upon the auto industry for its money and right now things are slow. To my knowledge there are no "genealogy" certificates available in the state of Michigan anywhere. As for ordering certificates you can do it thru vitalcheck.com; the Oakland County Website; or send your money order to the county. Right now if you just send a money order I believe that you can still get them for $15. I've copied the page with the information below for the convenience of those who may have other questions regarding vital records in Oakland County. Where are you located and what are your hours? 1200 North Telegraph Road (between Elizabeth Lake and Telegraph roads), ground floor of Circuit Court Building; hours are 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. Visit our Contact section for more information. How do I obtain a copy of a vital record? Appear in person and complete the required form, or send a written request by mail. Fee is $15.00 for the first copy, and $5.00 for each additional copy. For a copy of a birth record, you must have valid picture ID and be the person, parents or legal representative. You may also order some vital records online (birth, death, marriage records). Visit the Forms and Applications index to view available online services from the Clerk/Register of Deeds office. What vital records may I obtain from this office? You may obtain certified copies of birth, marriage and death certificates. You may also register an assumed name, apply for notary certification, register for a pistol's license, and request a legal name change. Visit the Forms & Applications section of this Web site for more information. What's the difference between ordering online and coming in to the office to get a vital record? If you order online, you are charged an additional $5.00 convenience fee (in addition to the cost of the record). You will receive your vital record(s) in the mail, rather than immediately. The benefit to ordering online is that you may do it from your computer any time of the day, any day of the week. It's ideal if you'd like to save yourself the trip to the office and do not need the record immediately. For more information on ordering now - see: http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/clerkrod/ Click on Vital Records. If anyone has any further questions feel free to email me. I sure hope all the states don't follow this lead. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Concetta Franco [mailto:concetta.franco@BLDD.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:44 AM To: MIOAKLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIOAKLAN] INFORMATION Karen, How do we directly order from the county? I've never done that before - but $30 seems excessive for certs. (I don't even think I pay that much when I buy British certs). There are a few I still wish to buy. Did Michigan pass the efforts to start issuing genealogy only certificates instead of making us pay for certified records? Concetta >>> "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> 9/30/2004 9:28:19 AM >>> In spite of efforts to stop the state increase in vital records fees, SB1143 passed the House of Representatives yesterday. This will raise VITAL RECORD FEES IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN TO $30. It is unknown when this take affect. I would advise you to order any certificates that you need from Oakland County now, as I am sure the county will follow suit and raise their prices as well. Due to the increased need for income and the increasing concern about privacy and security, we may find it more difficult to obtain records that we need for genealogical research. Karen ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

In spite of efforts to stop the state increase in vital records fees, SB1143 passed the House of Representatives yesterday. This will raise VITAL RECORD FEES IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN TO $30. It is unknown when this take affect. I would advise you to order any certificates that you need from Oakland County now, as I am sure the county will follow suit and raise their prices as well. Due to the increased need for income and the increasing concern about privacy and security, we may find it more difficult to obtain records that we need for genealogical research. Karen

Karen, How do we directly order from the county? I've never done that before - but $30 seems excessive for certs. (I don't even think I pay that much when I buy British certs). There are a few I still wish to buy. Did Michigan pass the efforts to start issuing genealogy only certificates instead of making us pay for certified records? Concetta >>> "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> 9/30/2004 9:28:19 AM >>> In spite of efforts to stop the state increase in vital records fees, SB1143 passed the House of Representatives yesterday. This will raise VITAL RECORD FEES IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN TO $30. It is unknown when this take affect. I would advise you to order any certificates that you need from Oakland County now, as I am sure the county will follow suit and raise their prices as well. Due to the increased need for income and the increasing concern about privacy and security, we may find it more difficult to obtain records that we need for genealogical research. Karen ==== MIOAKLAN Mailing List ==== You can contact the listowner at Judy@BirdGenealogy.org ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

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