Thanks Ron. Yes, she died in 1969. The index shows her birthday as 1887 but I think it might have been 1881. I'm trying to get information on her parents, etc. I haven't been able to find a birth certificate for her. Guess it might be worthwhile sending for it. Thanks, Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bestrom" <RBestrom@earthlink.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Social Security Application - abt. 1940 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > >> Does anyone know what information I might find by sending for a copy of a >> Soc. Sec. Application for a person who probably started collecting >> between >> 1940 and 1950? I know that you have to have a copy of your birth >> certificate now but probably then many people did not have one. > > Virginia, > If you send for a copy of the Social Security Number (SSN) > application, > all you will receive is a copy of the form (the Form SS-5) completed by > the > applicant or a computer extract, (see below for explanation). If the > person > had died very recently you could request information from their claim > files. > But it sounds like the person died long ago. > > The SS-5 requested the following information: > Full name > Full name at birth, including maiden name > Present mailing address > Age at last birthday > Date of birth > Place of birth (city, county, State) > Father's full name > Mother's full name, including maiden name > Sex > Race as indicated by the applicant > Whether the applicant ever applied for Social Security or Railroad > Retirement before > Current employer's name and address > Date signed > Applicant's signature > > Here is some links to the Social Security Administration: > > This link explains how to order a copy of the application, the SS-5. An > exact copy of the application will cost you $27.00 if you know the Social > Security Number, $29.00 if you do not. OR, you can get just a computer > extract, this is just a computer print out of the information that is on > the > application. This will cost you $16.00 if you know the SSN, $18.00 if you > do not. While this method is cheaper, the additional expense for an exact > copy will be more of a genealogy value, showing the handwriting of the > applicant: > http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=138&p_created=955632753&p_sid=QKNT4tJh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzgmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PW9idGFpbmluZyByZWNvcmRz&p_li=&p_topview=1 > > Here is an example of what the SS-5 looks like TODAY. > http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5.pdf > > This link will give you some general background information on the SSA: > http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html > > Ron Bestrom > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > Thanks Ron. Yes, she died in 1969. The index shows her birthday as 1887 > but I think it might have been 1881. I'm trying to get information on her > parents, etc. I haven't been able to find a birth certificate for her. > Guess it might be worthwhile sending for it. You may have done this; but, have you obtained her death certificate? I'm not familiar with the Minnesota ones, but some states include the names of the parents. The Social Security Death Index obtains its information from Minnesota through the Office of Vital Statistics, Minnesota Department of Health, or through the local funeral homes via computer...voluntarily. Below are portions of a posting I made on another list, (I redacted parts not applicable): Good Luck The Minnesota Death Certificate Index: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/search.cfm has Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) link, ... But, Listers...It is a good site to find deceased if you hadn't seen it before. It also leads to a Birth Index for births 1900-1916. That site did indicate: "The certificate was registered with the local county registrar and the original copy sent to the Office of Vital Statistics, Minnesota Department of Health". I went to their site: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/search.cfm?bhcp=1 I did a search for "SSN". This window: http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/chs/osr/deathreg/ssap.html might answer the question. It also identifies the form "SSA-721" is voluntary. The SSA-721 is "The Statement of Death by the Funeral Director". As these windows indicate, when a funeral director reports a death to the Minnesota Department of Vital Statistics, it is automatically sent to the SSA, or they fax one directly to the SSA. So, I'm "assuming" the reporting to the SSA of a persons death is not due to the issuance of a Death Certificate, it is due to the funeral home inputting that information in the state computer system, or sending a fax to the SSA. But, it also indicates the report is voluntary. BUT, I'm "guessing", it would behoove the funeral directors to forward the form...if that initiates the death payment.