Beth, I started with the information my father-in-law gave me which was his parent's name and the fact that his mother was born in Bellville, IL. He said that his dad's family came from Winona so I followed that lead and found the Francis and Elizabeth (Hart) Liebe in Winona in the 1880 census with some help from some nice people. I followed them through 1920 when Elizabeth was still living. (Not to be too confusing but both of his grandfathers were named Francis and both grandmothers were named Elizabeth!!) Next, I decided to check with the Montanta list and someone found Ida Jeffery living in a boarding house in Silver Bow, Montana in the 1900 census. In 1902 they found James E. Liebe (her future husband) working in Butte, MT for the NP railroad. I e-mail Butte, and they had a marriage certificate which I now have. This confirmed the names of the parents of both and the fact that Ida was born in Belleville, IL and gave me her mother's name of Elizabeth Rogers. I already had the name Francis Jeffery whom she married (Ida's parents). On the 1910 census for St. Paul, I found them in Ramsey Co., St. Paul, MN and Francis Jeffery was living with them on Selby Avenue. The thing that is so odd is that Ida has given several years for her birth. On the marriage license she said she was 26 (1902) and then in 1910 she said she was 26. My father-in-law is not really sure when she was born and knows nothing about her background except what I've told you. I sent a letter to St. Clair Co., IL and they couldn't find a birth record for her but apparently at that time you didn't have to register a birth. Ida is buried in St. Paul but my father-in-law gave the information when she died so it may not be correct. Her father, Francis Jeffery, is buried at Oakland Cemetery in St. Paul and I've ordered his death certificate tonight. Francis and Elizabeth Liebe are buried out on Larpenteur and I can't remember the cemetery name. What I am trying to find is: When did Francis Jeffery come to the US from England When did he marry Elizabeth Rogers and when did she die When was Ida May Jeffery born (actually)!! Even her Soc. Sec. information doesn't seem correct when I looked it up on line. I hope I haven't confused everyone. I really would like to get the information for him as quickly as possible. Thanks to all of the nice people that have been helping. Any advice is appreciated. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Rau" <bethrau@hotmail.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Death Index -Francis Jeffery > Hi Virginia, > > There are many of us who have access to online history books and old > newspapers, subscribe to more than one genealogy site, as well as being > good > at finding free online resources. > > I understand your father-in-law is quite elderly, so you probably would > like > to find out as much as possible for him, as quickly as possible. > > Because he is in his nineties, we should be able to find him in at least > one > census. If you could list any names of his family members, their > approximate dates of births and deaths, and where they lived, we should be > able to help you find some great information to share with him. We may > even > be able to find an announcement of his own birth, or an announcement about > his parents' wedding. > > It is best to start with the living family member and work backward, to > prevent any mistakes in following the wrong person. It is easy to go off > on > the wrong 'branch' of a family tree, researching the wrong family when > there > are several people with similar names and birth dates and places. > > If you add more info, I'll be happy to look through my databases for you. > > Beth > > ===================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Death Index -Francis Jeffery > > >>I know it is because I have the license and certificate of marriage naming >> the parents of Francis and Elizabeth Rogers Jeffery. They are my >> father-in-law's grandparents, He is in his ninetys and is interested in >> finding out more about his family. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---