The Anoka Metro Regional Treatment Center is still open. It is used as a treatment center for mentally ill persons. They also have other programs at the facility as well now, CD rehab and other programs. It originally was the Anoka Insane Asylum - then called the Anoka Asylum and then the Anoka State Hospital. The name changed to RTC about 15 years ago when the state of Minnesota renamed all the state hospitals. It housed people who had all sorts of real or imagined mental illnesses. Back in the early days there was no clear psychiatric treatment and people were locked up in asylums for all sorts of behavior that might be out of the norm. Anything from the "usual" mental illnesses, to children who didn't behave as was expected of them. I can tell you some very sad stories of the old former "inmates" which is what the patients were called. It was a holding center so the people were "inmates" and there was no treatment, just beds and chairs and food. Thankfully that has all changed, but for many years it was horrible what was done with these individuals. The records are available. You have to show evidence that you are related and that you want the information FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES. This might be to determine if the illness might "run in the family", for example. The address is Anoka Metro Regional Treatment Center 3300 4th Ave N Anoka, MN 55303 ph: 763-712-4000 I hope they can help. Jo Hogle

In a message dated 12/29/02 11:00:27 AM Mountain Standard Time, Jawcwarner@aol.com writes: << Although I don't know of him ever being in trouble with the law, he is shown as an inmate in the town of Anoka, MN in Anoka County. The facility is called Anoka State Asylum---can anyone tell me if this was a regular prison or if it was a mental asylum? >> A person should not consider this institution as a detention facility, or it's occupants as inmates. It was a mental institution of sorts, and that is nearly all I know of it accept for one other small thing. When I was growing up in Northern MN there was a teenage girl living nearby. She was regularly abused by her family, and when she protested she was sent to "Anoka". She was definitely not a criminal, and was in fact the victim of criminal activity. Dennis

The Anoka State Hospital, previously the Anoka State Asylum and currently the Anoka-Metro Regional Treatment Center, was created by an act of the Minnesota Legislature in 1899. The City of Hastings originally won the site, but the vote was reconsidered and Anoka was awarded the site (Anoka Herald 1897). By 1937, the hospital grounds included 735 acres of land, which housed 10 cottages for women patients and one large building for the male patients (Anoka County Union 1937). The hospital reached its maximum capacity in 1954 when the population was approximately 1,500 people, 1,000 of which were women (Anoka County Union 1972). <http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:bzyAdv0xhycC:www.cnr.umn.edu/FR/degpro g/webclass/NRES4195/Past_class_products/Melissa_final%255B1%255D.doc+%22Anok a+State+Asylum%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8> I am sure there are others who know more then I. :-)) Just a www.google.com search. I do know that years ago many people were put into institutions for chemical imbalances in their bodies, such as Vitamin B deficiency (forget the correct name for it now). My father in law has this and needs shots once a month. Before the doctor's caught it, it had started to affect his mind. His father died in Fergus Falls Minnesota State Hospital, long before this type of disease was diagnosed and treated. It is hereditary, so we feel he died of the same thing, only because it was not treated. Check the death records online for his death and order his certificate. http://people.mnhs.org/dci/ Margit http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maggiebakke/flom.html > Greetings Listers: > In the 1930 US Federal Census, I have found a person who is a good > possibility for my grandmother's brother, Bernard (he went by Ben) WAGNER. > Although I don't know of him ever being in trouble with the law, he is shown > as an inmate in the town of Anoka, MN in Anoka County. The facility is called > Anoka State Asylum---can anyone tell me if this was a regular prison or if it > was a mental asylum? Is it still in use and are there records on inmates that > might help me determine for sure if this is really my Bernard Wagner? Any > help would be appreciated!

Greetings Listers: In the 1930 US Federal Census, I have found a person who is a good possibility for my grandmother's brother, Bernard (he went by Ben) WAGNER. Although I don't know of him ever being in trouble with the law, he is shown as an inmate in the town of Anoka, MN in Anoka County. The facility is called Anoka State Asylum---can anyone tell me if this was a regular prison or if it was a mental asylum? Is it still in use and are there records on inmates that might help me determine for sure if this is really my Bernard Wagner? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Carol in Colorado

This was a hospital of sorts where people that were mentally ill were sent. My ex-husband worked there back in the early 70's as a psych tech. It was closed a number of years ago and now the buildings are used for various state run programs. There is a treatment facility out there too. I don't know where the records went to but you can check the Minnesota Historical Society site to see if they carry them. Most are probably closed due to confidentiality. If I can help you in any way researching here, let me know. Sandy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I am writing to see if anyone is researching the family of the late Pauline (Schaffer) Myrvold. She passed away on December 7, 2002, in Windom, MN. She was 92 years old, and was my grandfather's (Charles Schad) cousin. I have lots of information on her maternal family. Just checking to see if anyone else is researching the same family. Happy Holidays! Jesse Clarke chaos@gwtc.net http://www.jrclarke.com/schad Researching in Cottonwood & Jackson Counties, MN: SCHAD JARMER SCHAFFER MONTAG NIMERFROH BABCOCK ....among others....

HI out there not much activity on the list,any Doerre,Dorre out there?I see a few on the ship list went there from thurgina,Germany.. betty

Forwarding for Gordon -- I have checked the URL -- All is A-OK. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/CEnsus/Petition.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/1906census.html ========================= Greetings All. As promised in my message on Wednesday, I have placed online the full text of Professor Bill Waiser's press release held 18 December 2002 at the University of Saskatchewan. The press release was in response to the long awaited response by Information Commissioner John M. Reid to Professor Waiser's complaint about Statistics Canada's refusal to allow public access to records of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces. The Information Commisioner found that access to the withheld records is authorized pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(c) of the Access to Information Act by reference to subsection 8(3) of the Privacy Act and s.6(d) of the Privacy Regulations. On 18 October 2002 he recommended that Statistics Canada release the requested schedules. Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi advised the Information Commissioner he does not intend to follow that recommendation. In so doing we believe that he is breaking the laws of Canada. No public servant, no matter how highly placed, is above the law. We call upon Industry Minister Allan Rock to immediately direct the Chief Statistician to transfer care and control of these records to the National Archivist for subsequent public access. Professor Waiser's press release is accessible through a link on the Post 1901 Census Project website, at the URL following my signature. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/02

I noticed on grandfathers ship list of Doerre, there where several that also came from thuringia and went into Minnesota, They might be cousins of my Grandfather.Are there any still out there in Minnesota ? betty

H am new to the list , Are there any family out there ,of Doerre descendents ,came from Thuringia,Germany ?I have a passenger list & are a few on the list, might be related..my grandfather also came from there. thanks betty

Hi, Does anyone know anything about the Elizabeth Thayer listed below on the Social Security Death Index? I would love to find out more about her and her family. ELIZABETH THAYER Born 20 Jun 1912, Died Aug 1987, Last Residence 95926 (Chico, Butte, CA), Last Benefit (none specified), SSN 524-50-2951, Issues, Colorado Regards Thomas Peeke -- Thomas Peeke

Hi, I have listed below some of the Surnames that I am researching and where I have traced them back to in the UK. I would love to hear from anyone who thinks that they could be connected. I have set up various websites for different branches of my family which can be accessed by going to http://www.speareroots.co.uk Best wishes Thomas Peeke Oxford, UK SURNAMES & PLACES ROOKARD, Norfolk/Essex UK MATTEN, Suffolk, UK SPEARE, Inwardleigh & Upton Pyne, Devon, UK PEEKE, Cornworthy, Devon, UK COLLINGS, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, UK CORNISH, Doddiscombsleigh, Devon, UK FENNER, Ardleigh/Dedham, Essex, UK PEACHEY, Lakenheath/Wangford, Suffolk TURNER, Wangford, Suffolk PERKINS, Upton Pyne, Devon, UK JOLLIFFE, Upton Pyne, Devon, UK CARPENTER, Inwardleigh, Devon, UK WARD, Inwardleigh, Devon, UK MOORE, Dedham, Essex, UK COUSINS, Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, UK RYE, Langham, Essex SHOCKFORD, Colchester, Essex DUFFY, Colchester, Essex BLOYSE/BLOYCE/BLOSSE, Suffolk & Essex, UK WOOLLINER, Colchester, Essex, UK SAILS, Colchester, Essex, UK WENDEN, Great Bromley/Colchester, Essex, UK SHARPE, Ardleigh, Essex, UK DENNY, Dedham, Essex, UK ELLIS, Ashprington, Devon, UK TAYLOR, Ardleigh, Essex, UK SPREY, Inwardleigh, Devon, UK MORCOMBE, Inwardleigh, Devon, UK GOWMAN, Upton Pyne, Devon, UK CHESTERMAN, Devon, UK WESTCOTT, Upton Pyne, Devon ROBERTSON, Dittisham, Devon, UK -- Thomas Peeke

Claire , My father went by a different name all his life, the name of his "adopted" family ,trouble was a lot of them were not legal adoptions , just children taken in by other families. My Dad took his legal birthname (surname) when he married .So anyone looking for him not knowing this would never find him .This could be the case of your Jenny ? Linda Harper Claire Grant wrote: >Hello All, > > We are searching for JENNY GRANT, the adopted cousin of our grandfather; > > 1 David Henry Grant b: August 04, 1854 in Scott Twp., Sheboygan Co., Wi. d: April 29, 1918 in Sebeka, Wadena Co., MN Burial: May 04, 1918 West Sebeka Cemetery - Sebeka, Wadena Co., MN > >. +Eunice Clark b: August 12, 1858 in Michigan m: November 29, 1876 in Fayette Co., IA d: December 07, 1915 in Sebeka, Wadena Co., MN. Burial: December 09, 1915 West Sebeka Cemetery - Sebeka, Wadena Co., MN > >.. 2 Jennie Grant b: May 1892 in Pennsylvania {adopted} > > The Bulletin Volume: 10 Number: 50 Date: 12/15/1892 > > Mrs. Dave Grant will bring an adopted daughter with her. > >>From the Sebeka MN Review Aug. 8,1913 :{{{ her last known whereabouts}}} > >Jennie Grant visited with Bessie Weston Saturday and Sunday. > >We have check the usual places; death and marriage indexes with no luck at finding her. Also she was not listed in either parents' obit. > >-Claire Grant > >South Dakota > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > >==== MINNESOTA Mailing List ==== >Want to unsubscribe from the Minnesota-L list (Single message mode)? Send an e-mail message to MINNESOTA-L-request@rootsweb.com On the first line of text, enter only the following word: Unsubscribe > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

It's an interesting thought, which I haven't seen before as a question. I suggest you go to the U.S. National Archives. They hold an incredible variety of materials, & are pretty good about responding to e-mail inquiries. You can go to http://www.archives.gov/ Clicking on "search" I entered "Customs" & found NARA | Research Room | Guide to Records of the United States Customs Service Information about holdings of and use of the Research Rooms of the United States National Archives and Records Administration http://www.archives.gov/research_room/federal_records_guide/ us_customs_service_rg036.html - 61.7KB - www.archives.gov Phil pvc@vancamp.org . -----Original Message----- From: rjoa@telusplanet.net [mailto:rjoa@telusplanet.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:22 PM To: MINNESOTA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MINNESOTA] Customs Hi all. I want to thank the wonderful people who answered my query particularly Phil, Terri and Kathy. I checked up on some suggestions and had already exhausted others but every little thing helps. One question remains. Has anyone researched customs records, and are they accessible (oops, two questions). Gratefully, Roseline in Canada. p.s. Is it normal to obssess on one particular document? :-) ==== MINNESOTA Mailing List ==== To view completed census transcriptions online, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 12/2/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 12/2/02

Hi all. I want to thank the wonderful people who answered my query particularly Phil, Terri and Kathy. I checked up on some suggestions and had already exhausted others but every little thing helps. One question remains. Has anyone researched customs records, and are they accessible (oops, two questions). Gratefully, Roseline in Canada. p.s. Is it normal to obssess on one particular document? :-)

Hi: My Weed relatives would have come to the United States in 1875-1878, from Stavanger, Norway. Their name at that time was Wiig which they changed to Weed. The full names were: Asbjorn Weed/Wiig. He also went by Andrew Weed/Wiig or A.A. Weed/Wiig. His wife was Marie. His Children were: Anna, (Grace), Mary (Marie) and Frank Asbjorn Hope there someone out there with information. Connie Conniered@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Was he Catholic? Looking at the IGI on www.familysearch.org and choosing "Germany" for the search area - yeilds 83 records for "Joa." Nearly all of them are Catholic and from Pfalz, Bayern (Bavaria.) Good map site, lot of 1882 maps - http://feefhs.org/maps/indexmap.html (scroll down) I think most crossings took (more or less depending on weather and prevailing winds) six weeks. I think a couple of the more popular destinations in 1868 on the east coast were Boston and New York. But, with out further clues, he could have landed just about anywhere. I have an ancestor that landed somewhere on the east coast in Canada and then he snuck into Minnesota across the border. Since he was, in effect, an illegal immigrant from Canada, he was too scared to ever get his U.S. citizenship papers. Was Andreas Joa still living and in the U.S. during the 1900 census? Columns in the 1900 U.S. census (16)Year of Immigration to the United States (17)Number of Years in the United States (18)Naturalization Kathy rjoa@telusplanet.net wrote: > Thanks for responding, Phil. Andreas Joa left Germany in 1868 or late > 1867 depending on the length of the voyage. He is said (by family > members) to have been a stowaway, found too late to turn back and > arrived in New York (???) on or about March 19, 1868. Since he was > presumably awol from the Bavarian army and didn't want to serve under > the Prussians, he point or origin becomes very cloudy. I have > exhaustively researched the Immigrant Ships Transcribers and have looked > in several volumes ie Immigrants to America. His naturalization papers > contain no information other than renouncing allegiance to the King of > Bavaria. He came west upon arrival to become a farmer and as far as I > know had no military record. Taxes? Where? If I sound desperate, I > am. I've just about given up on his crossing. Anyway, thanks for your > suggestions. > Roseline in Alberta > > ==== MINNESOTA Mailing List ==== > To view completed census transcriptions online, go to: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Knowing these things doesn't always help either. I have a great grandfather who came to America in 1880. He was born in Austria, ran away from home and worked in Vienna for awhile so he'd have the money for fare to the US. I know that he arrived in 1880, I know that he was naturalized and have the second papers, but the first papers can't be found. And we have no clue where he came into the states at. He's not in the IGI, although he is on the internet courtesy of a cousin with very poor information. He also hasn't been found on any records in Austria as of yet. My Swedish relatives left Sweden through Norway, I believe, and haven't found out exactly when they arrived yet or what ship they were on. I know the approximate dates, but they don't seem to be on any transcription. My method is to gather as much as I can and move on to other information and eventually, I will get these other bits of info as well. My 2¢ Teri On 3 Dec 2002 at 1:10, Kathy Hines wrote: > > Was Andreas Joa still living and in the U.S. during the 1900 census? > Columns in the 1900 U.S. census > (16)Year of Immigration to the United States > (17)Number of Years in the United States > (18)Naturalization > > Kathy > > rjoa@telusplanet.net wrote: > > > Thanks for responding, Phil. Andreas Joa left Germany in 1868 or late > > 1867 depending on the length of the voyage. He is said (by family > > members) to have been a stowaway, found too late to turn back and > > arrived in New York (???) on or about March 19, 1868. Since he was > > presumably awol from the Bavarian army and didn't want to serve under > > the Prussians, he point or origin becomes very cloudy. I have > > exhaustively researched the Immigrant Ships Transcribers and have looked > > in several volumes ie Immigrants to America. His naturalization papers > > contain no information other than renouncing allegiance to the King of > > Bavaria. He came west upon arrival to become a farmer and as far as I > > know had no military record. Taxes? Where? If I sound desperate, I > > am. I've just about given up on his crossing. Anyway, thanks for your > > suggestions. > > Roseline in Alberta > > > > ==== MINNESOTA Mailing List ==== > > To view completed census transcriptions online, go to: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== MINNESOTA Mailing List ==== > "It is not the length of life, but depth of life." - Ralph Waldo Emerson > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > * * * * * * * * II Chron 7:14 If my people that are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and heal their land. (KJV) * * * * * * * * http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~tc186698/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~codolore/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~comesa2/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnisanti/Isanti/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~mtwheatl/

Phil, I forgot to mention that Andreas Joa boarded a Mercantile (?Merchant) ship. Maybe they arrived at a different port. Thanks, Roseline

Thanks for responding, Phil. Andreas Joa left Germany in 1868 or late 1867 depending on the length of the voyage. He is said (by family members) to have been a stowaway, found too late to turn back and arrived in New York (???) on or about March 19, 1868. Since he was presumably awol from the Bavarian army and didn't want to serve under the Prussians, he point or origin becomes very cloudy. I have exhaustively researched the Immigrant Ships Transcribers and have looked in several volumes ie Immigrants to America. His naturalization papers contain no information other than renouncing allegiance to the King of Bavaria. He came west upon arrival to become a farmer and as far as I know had no military record. Taxes? Where? If I sound desperate, I am. I've just about given up on his crossing. Anyway, thanks for your suggestions. Roseline in Alberta