Really! When I did Dex online I only pulled an Edward Liebe in Duluth. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > can't back date, it is only current residents . . . guess I misunderstood > that sentence about wanting to find out if there is still a LIEBE family > living there. I found several, a whole bunch of them!! > > Jeanine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > > >> Jeanine, does that work for old records? I have it open but don't see >> anywhere to enter a year. Am I missing it? >> >> Thanks, >> Virginia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> >> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 >> >> >>> Hi Virginia, >>> >>> One of my most used links is for an online phone directory!! >>> www.switchboard.com and you can search by name or by surname and >>> location >>> or >>> by phone number, you can get maps . . . save it in your favorites and >>> you'll >>> be amazed at how often you will use it!! Have a great day, Jeanine >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> >>> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:19 AM >>> Subject: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 >>> >>> >>>> Does anyone have access to a Duluth Directory for the time period of >>>> 1940? >>>> Trying to find out if there is still a family by the name of Liebe >>>> living >>>> there. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help. >>>> >>>> Virginia >>>> >>>> >>>> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >>>> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

can't back date, it is only current residents . . . guess I misunderstood that sentence about wanting to find out if there is still a LIEBE family living there. I found several, a whole bunch of them!! Jeanine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > Jeanine, does that work for old records? I have it open but don't see > anywhere to enter a year. Am I missing it? > > Thanks, > Virginia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > > >> Hi Virginia, >> >> One of my most used links is for an online phone directory!! >> www.switchboard.com and you can search by name or by surname and location >> or >> by phone number, you can get maps . . . save it in your favorites and >> you'll >> be amazed at how often you will use it!! Have a great day, Jeanine >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> >> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:19 AM >> Subject: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 >> >> >>> Does anyone have access to a Duluth Directory for the time period of >>> 1940? >>> Trying to find out if there is still a family by the name of Liebe >>> living >>> there. >>> >>> Thanks for any help. >>> >>> Virginia >>> >>> >>> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >>> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carole, the Liebe family had at least three sons. In 1890 the mother, a daughter and the sons lived in Duluth. I have information on two of the sons, but not the other which was Francis. I know there is someone by the name of Liebe in Duluth now and was hoping to figure out if he could possibly be related without calling and asking him. I thought if I could find a Liebe family that was still there in mid 1900's, I would have more information to contact him. You are right, I meant the city directory. Thanks for the information on the e-mail of the library. I'll try that. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Johnson" <c.johnson@rconnect.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > Virginia, > > I think that what you are looking for may be the Duluth City Directories > (not telephone books) for the 1940 time period. You may be able to get a > look-up in these by contacting the Duluth Public Library at > http://www.duluth.lib.mn.us/. There are a couple of ways there to contact > them by e-mail. > > If you could offer a bit more information, such as given names along with > the surname Liebe, as well as some dates, we might be able to help you > more. > > Good luck! > Carole > > At 07:48 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote: > >>Jeanine, does that work for old records? I have it open but don't see >>anywhere to enter a year. Am I missing it? >> >>Thanks, >>Virginia >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> >>To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM >>Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 >> >> >> > Hi Virginia, >> > >> > One of my most used links is for an online phone directory!! >> > www.switchboard.com and you can search by name or by surname and >> > location >> > or >> > by phone number, you can get maps . . . save it in your favorites and >> > you'll >> > be amazed at how often you will use it!! Have a great day, Jeanine >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> >> > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:19 AM >> > Subject: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 >> > >> > >> >> Does anyone have access to a Duluth Directory for the time period of >> >> 1940? >> >> Trying to find out if there is still a family by the name of Liebe >> >> living >> >> there. >> >> >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> >> >> Virginia >> >> >> >> >> >> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >> >> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>--- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >>http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>-- >>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/2006 > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/2006 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

Virginia, I think that what you are looking for may be the Duluth City Directories (not telephone books) for the 1940 time period. You may be able to get a look-up in these by contacting the Duluth Public Library at http://www.duluth.lib.mn.us/. There are a couple of ways there to contact them by e-mail. If you could offer a bit more information, such as given names along with the surname Liebe, as well as some dates, we might be able to help you more. Good luck! Carole At 07:48 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote: >Jeanine, does that work for old records? I have it open but don't see >anywhere to enter a year. Am I missing it? > >Thanks, >Virginia >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> >To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM >Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > > > > Hi Virginia, > > > > One of my most used links is for an online phone directory!! > > www.switchboard.com and you can search by name or by surname and location > > or > > by phone number, you can get maps . . . save it in your favorites and > > you'll > > be amazed at how often you will use it!! Have a great day, Jeanine > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:19 AM > > Subject: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > > > > > >> Does anyone have access to a Duluth Directory for the time period of > >> 1940? > >> Trying to find out if there is still a family by the name of Liebe living > >> there. > >> > >> Thanks for any help. > >> > >> Virginia > >> > >> > >> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > >> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >--- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/2006 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: 10/4/2006

Jeanine, does that work for old records? I have it open but don't see anywhere to enter a year. Am I missing it? Thanks, Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > Hi Virginia, > > One of my most used links is for an online phone directory!! > www.switchboard.com and you can search by name or by surname and location > or > by phone number, you can get maps . . . save it in your favorites and > you'll > be amazed at how often you will use it!! Have a great day, Jeanine > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:19 AM > Subject: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > > >> Does anyone have access to a Duluth Directory for the time period of >> 1940? >> Trying to find out if there is still a family by the name of Liebe living >> there. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Virginia >> >> >> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

Hi Virginia, One of my most used links is for an online phone directory!! www.switchboard.com and you can search by name or by surname and location or by phone number, you can get maps . . . save it in your favorites and you'll be amazed at how often you will use it!! Have a great day, Jeanine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: [MINNESOTA] Duluth Directory - abt. 1940 > Does anyone have access to a Duluth Directory for the time period of 1940? > Trying to find out if there is still a family by the name of Liebe living > there. > > Thanks for any help. > > Virginia > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have access to a Duluth Directory for the time period of 1940? Trying to find out if there is still a family by the name of Liebe living there. Thanks for any help. Virginia --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

thanks for your note. My son recently was remodeling an old farmhouse and found the walls FULL of stuff . . . old magazines, old mail, old bills, old shoes, worn out clothing . . . it appeared that they assumed no matter what you filled the walls with, it would help keep you warm . . . and there was lots of cardboard nailed up underneath the sheetrock that he removed. So apparently at some point, they got enough money to start rocking each room but they didn't insulate, they just nailed it up!!! lots of MN stories for sure . . . I have one online I think, or did have, the story of my dad's bear . . . not sure how to even find it, sent it to some sight just for what I thought was someone to read, and later someone else contacted me about the fun story they had read. I wrote back and asked where they saw it and then they sent me the link!!! What a surprise . . . think I'll check to see if I can find it again!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "T and L Hoper" <hoperfamily@yahoo.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Breezy looking Good Morning Jeanine, No, this was actually the main portion of their house. The kitchen got destroyed by a fallen tree when a nice southwestern summer storm rolled through... LOL. It doesn't look as if there are boards missing, just not very "well built". I heard once news papers came out they would tack it to the wall as a wind barrier and also the homemade quilts were tacked up. In Nov 1996, we purchased a 20+ year old mobile home in my home town. That winter, the curtains would literally sway because of the winter winds. That was just around the windows.... I would hate to have lived where that was a constant. My Great Aunt, who still lives on the homestead, told me a story about my other Great Aunt being bit on the toe by a rat one winter...EW... LOL. It was backed up by my mother and her sister and brother stating it at different times. Heading to work...love to talk about Minnesota :) Lori L Hoper --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning Jeanine, No, this was actually the main portion of their house. The kitchen got destroyed by a fallen tree when a nice southwestern summer storm rolled through... LOL. It doesn't look as if there are boards missing, just not very "well built". I heard once news papers came out they would tack it to the wall as a wind barrier and also the homemade quilts were tacked up. In Nov 1996, we purchased a 20+ year old mobile home in my home town. That winter, the curtains would literally sway because of the winter winds. That was just around the windows.... I would hate to have lived where that was a constant. My Great Aunt, who still lives on the homestead, told me a story about my other Great Aunt being bit on the toe by a rat one winter...EW... LOL. It was backed up by my mother and her sister and brother stating it at different times. Heading to work...love to talk about Minnesota :) Lori L Hoper --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

About the breezy look . . . when we moved to this central MN area where we currently live, in 1960, I saw some out buildings that definitely had that "breezy" look to them too. In fact I actually thought that in hard times looked they had removed every other board maybe for firewood or something. Only this past year have I learned that those were tobacco drying sheds!! Built intentionally with the boards spaced for air circulation during the drying time from harvest in the fall until they stripped the leaves starting in about February!! That is the first I had ever heard of tobacco being grown 50 miles north of Minneapolis!! And, in fact, now have eight different farmers' names who were growing tobacco. It was shipped out of Long's Siding in bales!! Such an interesting little piece of our local history!! Is there any possibility that this could be the case for your breezy looking building? Jeanine ----- Original Message ----- From: "T and L Hoper" <hoperfamily@yahoo.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Southern Minnesota > Hi Carole, > > Windom area here :) . Went to Pipestone a lot while I was in HS for the > sports teams. > > My main families are in Jackson, Lakefield and Okabena, with some I have > found, in the Mt. Lake area. Who woulda thunk huh?? LOL Through > research, I have some distant cousins in Pipestone also, what surname, I > dont remember, I would have to go back through my records. > > I miss my snow terribly, but not the cold or scooping it. I miss the > season changes. While everything there should be bright oranges, reds and > yellows.... I am basically stuck with green and then after the "hard" > freeze (usually in Jan), I get brown... LOL. > > Through my trip back home this past 4th of July, I got to see the > homestead of my mother's family :) That was interesting because they > still have a portion of the original house. I thought it was a corncrib > because it was so..... "breezy" looking...I could basically see right > through it. How did they stay warm???? > > Anyways, enough babbling. Everyone make a snowangel for me this year :) > > Lori L (Aden) Hoper > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small > Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carole, Windom area here :) . Went to Pipestone a lot while I was in HS for the sports teams. My main families are in Jackson, Lakefield and Okabena, with some I have found, in the Mt. Lake area. Who woulda thunk huh?? LOL Through research, I have some distant cousins in Pipestone also, what surname, I dont remember, I would have to go back through my records. I miss my snow terribly, but not the cold or scooping it. I miss the season changes. While everything there should be bright oranges, reds and yellows.... I am basically stuck with green and then after the "hard" freeze (usually in Jan), I get brown... LOL. Through my trip back home this past 4th of July, I got to see the homestead of my mother's family :) That was interesting because they still have a portion of the original house. I thought it was a corncrib because it was so..... "breezy" looking...I could basically see right through it. How did they stay warm???? Anyways, enough babbling. Everyone make a snowangel for me this year :) Lori L (Aden) Hoper --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

Where in southern Minnesota? My grandfather was born in Pipestone County in SW Minnesota. I was back there in September and found wonderful, helpful people at the county courthouse and the local museum. I was able to locate the property my ancestors owned and where my grandfather was born. His name was Charles Edwin Hall. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "T and L Hoper" <hoperfamily@yahoo.com> To: <MINNESOTA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: [MINNESOTA] Hostility > Good Evening Listmembers. > > I have to say, I cannot believe the hostility that is shown in this > message board. I am ashamed to state I was born and raised in the great > state. > > Yes, for internet use, typing in caps is concidered shouting, but in the > circumstances of the possibilty of being vision impaired, I am willing to > let it slide by. > > Let's get back to being a board that is here to help our fellow > researchers in finding their family's history. > > Just a bit of my humble opinion. > > Lori L Hoper > Born and raised in Southern Minnesota > Transplanted to Florida very unwillingly... :P > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would it be possible for anyone to find an obituary for Anton Shir. Anton Shir dob May 16, 1872 dod April 15, 1940 Railroad and vehicle accident in Pine county, village of Henriette, MN Would also be interested in obit. for his second wife, Vera. Vera Kriz Shir dob Feb. 12, 1884 dod March 22, 1936 Accidental gunshot in Pine county, Brookpark, MN Thank you, Mary

I'm wondering what newspaper was in St. Paul in May of 1916 and how I would find an obit for someone? Virginia --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

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Gene H. Norum haggar35@hotmail.com ----Original Message Follows---- Subject: Forget that self-promoter Columbus - let's celebrate the modest Vikings Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:43:06 -0400 baltimoresun.com: Forget that self-promoter Columbus - let's celebrate the modest Vikings To all you true Norums: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forget that self-promoter Columbus - let's celebrate the modest Vikings By Garrison Keillor October 12, 2006 Oct. 12, the traditional Columbus Day, is a day to reflect on the nature of celebrity. Columbus was a pirate and tyrant who sailed off and bumped into the Bahamas, had no idea where he was, and to his dying day believed he had reached the Indies. By the time he arrived in the New World, America was old news to the Vikings. They already had that T-shirt. Five hundred years before, the Vikings had been sailing the Atlantic with confidence, making new friends and influencing people. Thorvald Asvaldsson sailed to Iceland in the 10th century with his son Erik the Red, after they'd been banished from Norway for manslaughter - if you've ever been in an argument with Norwegians, you probably considered manslaughter too - and from Iceland, Erik explored the icebound island to the west, which he named Greenland, for promotional purposes. In 986, Bjarni Herjulfsson and his men sailed along the coast of New England. Around the same time, Leif Eriksson, the son of Erik the Red, sailed over and may have landed on the island of Manhattan. Did he come ashore and try to buy it for $23 worth of junk jewelry? No. And do we celebrate Bjarni Herjulfsson Day? No, we do not. The Vikings weren't into self-promotion, and Reykjavik was not a world media center at the time. The Vikings were not out to lord it over the Indians or bring democracy here or teach folks about Nordic gods. They were free spirits, sailors, explorers, so they left some carved stones here and there, relished the exhilaration of the voyage and the sight of new lands, and went home and composed sagas for the amusement of their friends and families. That arrogant fool Columbus, who demanded 10 percent of all the gold the Spanish stole in the New World, got the holiday, the nation's federal district, a town in Ohio and another in Georgia, a major river in the Northwest, and a university in New York. But who cares? Scandinavians don't. They celebrate Columbus Day as we all do, by going to the sale and saving 30 percent on towels and bed linens. And by covering the roses and putting the lawn furniture away. Their history after Leif and Erik and Bjarni has been tangled, of course. The Norwegians suffered under the Danes and then the Swedes. The Danes suffered under the delusion that they were French. The Swedes suffered under August Strindberg and Ingmar Bergman, neither of whom was the life of the party. All of them suffered from the long, gray winters with twilight at noon and the lunches of fried herring and potatoes and aquavit and the general prohibition against raising your voice or driving pink Cadillacs. But Lutheranism urged them toward kindness, industriousness and self-effacement, and this is not a bad strategy for contentment. Look around today and you will find the Viking descendants, a calm and stoical and somewhat formal people, by and large, not given to extremes of fashion or chanting "We're Number One" or writing memoirs that hang out the family underwear. Walter F. Mondale is pretty much the prototype. He lost the presidency by one of the biggest landslides in history to an aging actor whose grip on reality, never firm to begin with, was becoming hallucinatory. Ronald Reagan was sort of the Columbus of our time, a better PR man than sailor, but so be it. Mr. Mondale is a buoyant man with a sense of humor who enjoys his life in Minnesota, where people are happy to see him, and when you do, you see that losing is far from the worst thing that can happen to a man. Far from it. I propose that we change Columbus Day to Bush Day, a cautionary holiday, like Halloween, a day to meditate on the hazards of ambition. We could observe it by going through the basement and garage and throwing out stuff we don't want or need. Also by not mortgaging the house to pay for a vacation, and not yelling at the neighbors, and not assuming that the law is for other people. A day to honor kindness, industriousness and modesty. Garrison Keillor's "A Prairie Home Companion" can be heard Saturday nights on public radio stations across the country.

I thought this was a family history website not a forum to spout inane rhetoric. Besides let's not forget, first and foremost, in my opinion, Garrison is an entertainer. So, for him to write a controversial piece on Columbus is as bad as Rush bashing the Democratics. Anyway, the only good thing on NPR is the Tappet brothers. Troy Connor, LEED AP Preconstruction Estimating Flintco, Inc. Northwest Arkansas Division -----Original Message----- From: minnesota-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:minnesota-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gene Norum Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:47 AM To: MNHENNEP-D@rootsweb.com; MINNESOTA-D@rootsweb.com; MNOTTERT-D-request@rootsweb.com; NORWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com; NDSDMN-L@rootsweb.com; DWade64986@aol.com Subject: [MINNESOTA] FW: Forget that self-promoter Columbus - let'scelebrate the modest Vikings Gene H. Norum haggar35@hotmail.com ----Original Message Follows---- Subject: Forget that self-promoter Columbus - let's celebrate the modest Vikings Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:43:06 -0400 baltimoresun.com: Forget that self-promoter Columbus - let's celebrate the modest Vikings To all you true Norums: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Forget that self-promoter Columbus - let's celebrate the modest Vikings By Garrison Keillor October 12, 2006 Oct. 12, the traditional Columbus Day, is a day to reflect on the nature of celebrity. Columbus was a pirate and tyrant who sailed off and bumped into the Bahamas, had no idea where he was, and to his dying day believed he had reached the Indies. By the time he arrived in the New World, America was old news to the Vikings. They already had that T-shirt. Five hundred years before, the Vikings had been sailing the Atlantic with confidence, making new friends and influencing people. Thorvald Asvaldsson sailed to Iceland in the 10th century with his son Erik the Red, after they'd been banished from Norway for manslaughter - if you've ever been in an argument with Norwegians, you probably considered manslaughter too - and from Iceland, Erik explored the icebound island to the west, which he named Greenland, for promotional purposes. In 986, Bjarni Herjulfsson and his men sailed along the coast of New England. Around the same time, Leif Eriksson, the son of Erik the Red, sailed over and may have landed on the island of Manhattan. Did he come ashore and try to buy it for $23 worth of junk jewelry? No. And do we celebrate Bjarni Herjulfsson Day? No, we do not. The Vikings weren't into self-promotion, and Reykjavik was not a world media center at the time. The Vikings were not out to lord it over the Indians or bring democracy here or teach folks about Nordic gods. They were free spirits, sailors, explorers, so they left some carved stones here and there, relished the exhilaration of the voyage and the sight of new lands, and went home and composed sagas for the amusement of their friends and families. That arrogant fool Columbus, who demanded 10 percent of all the gold the Spanish stole in the New World, got the holiday, the nation's federal district, a town in Ohio and another in Georgia, a major river in the Northwest, and a university in New York. But who cares? Scandinavians don't. They celebrate Columbus Day as we all do, by going to the sale and saving 30 percent on towels and bed linens. And by covering the roses and putting the lawn furniture away. Their history after Leif and Erik and Bjarni has been tangled, of course. The Norwegians suffered under the Danes and then the Swedes. The Danes suffered under the delusion that they were French. The Swedes suffered under August Strindberg and Ingmar Bergman, neither of whom was the life of the party. All of them suffered from the long, gray winters with twilight at noon and the lunches of fried herring and potatoes and aquavit and the general prohibition against raising your voice or driving pink Cadillacs. But Lutheranism urged them toward kindness, industriousness and self-effacement, and this is not a bad strategy for contentment. Look around today and you will find the Viking descendants, a calm and stoical and somewhat formal people, by and large, not given to extremes of fashion or chanting "We're Number One" or writing memoirs that hang out the family underwear. Walter F. Mondale is pretty much the prototype. He lost the presidency by one of the biggest landslides in history to an aging actor whose grip on reality, never firm to begin with, was becoming hallucinatory. Ronald Reagan was sort of the Columbus of our time, a better PR man than sailor, but so be it. Mr. Mondale is a buoyant man with a sense of humor who enjoys his life in Minnesota, where people are happy to see him, and when you do, you see that losing is far from the worst thing that can happen to a man. Far from it. I propose that we change Columbus Day to Bush Day, a cautionary holiday, like Halloween, a day to meditate on the hazards of ambition. We could observe it by going through the basement and garage and throwing out stuff we don't want or need. Also by not mortgaging the house to pay for a vacation, and not yelling at the neighbors, and not assuming that the law is for other people. A day to honor kindness, industriousness and modesty. Garrison Keillor's "A Prairie Home Companion" can be heard Saturday nights on public radio stations across the country. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me with my search for relatives. My Grandfather and his family are very hard to trace. I believe that my Grandfather (Joseph Frank Snitske) may have had sisters Anna (Schnitzka/Schmitzke) and Elisabeth (Schnitzka) who married a Yost and a Joseph Howe b. approx 1894 in Mn - respectively. Anna and Ben Louis Yost may have sired at least three children. One was Lucille Gertrude Yost born 1914 another Roy Benjamin Yost born approx 1916. Elizabeth and Joseph Howe may have sired at least 2 children. One was Frances Lillian Howe born approx 1909. I am wanting to find some living descendents of these two families in the hope that someone may have more info they can give me on the Snitska/Schnitzka family. Kind Regards Melinda Kohler

At 08:53 AM 10/11/2006, Kathy Hines wrote: >Hi Melinda, > >I saw you post to the Freeborn Co. message boards looking for this family. > >Unfortunately Diane Oldfather, who married a Yost descendant herself, just >passed away about a year ago. Diane loved doing genealogy and was a >dedicated volunteer. Skip Murray checks the boards for both Freeborn and >Faribault Counties periodically. If she has info, she'll respond. There's >also a third person, Valerie, that researches Yost. I can try to dig up her >contact info, if you want to get a hold of her. I think Valerie is trying >to work on a book about those Yosts in Freeborn Co. > >I tend to follow the Yost threads a bit because my great great granduncle, >August Hintz, married Louisa Yost and they were also in Freeborn Co. > >Kathy Valerie will do look-ups in several western Freeborn County church records. Look her up at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnfreebo/lookups.htm Jean R. Legried, CG Norwegian-American research specialty <jrl@smig.net> Freeborn Co. MNGenWeb Co-coordinator: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnfreebo Beginning Genealogy lessons: http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie Co-editor, VESTLANDET -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006