Not sure if a birth certificate was necessary at that time; however, it is wild turkey shoot I think about what information they have actually transcribed from the original records. You don't just get copies of whatever is in the file, you get only what they have committed to the computer, or at least that is all I got . . . it was one page with no more information than I had in the first place; however, many other people tell me they have learned much more than I did. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: [MINNESOTA] Social Security Application - abt. 1940 > Does anyone know what information I might find by sending for a copy of a > Soc. Sec. Application for a person who probably started collecting between > 1940 and 1950? I know that you have to have a copy of your birth > certificate now but probably then many people did not have one. > > I really appreciate all advice and information on this. > > Thanks, > Virginia > > virgpat@usfamily.net > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Virginia, I found this on the Soc. Sec. Site: Q9: What information is available from Social Security records to help in genealogical research? A: You might want to start by checking out the Social Security Death Index which is available online from a variety of commercial services (usually the search is free). The Death Index contains a listing of persons who had a Social Security number, who are deceased, and whose death was reported to the Social Security Administration. (The information in the Death Index for people who died prior to 1962 is sketchy since SSA's death information was not automated before that date. Death information for persons who died before 1962 is generally only in the Death Index if the death was actually reported to SSA after 1962, even though the death occurred prior to that year.) If you find a person in the Death Index you will learn the date of birth and Social Security Number for that person. (The Social Security Death Index is not published by SSA for public use, but is made available by commercial entities using information from SSA records. We do not offer support of these commercial products nor can we answer questions about the material in the Death Index.) Other records potentially available from SSA include the Application for a Social Security Number (form SS-5). To obtain any information from SSA you will need to file a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html Regards, Alicia Marshall > Does anyone know what information I might find by sending for a copy of a > Soc. Sec. Application for a person who probably started collecting between > 1940 and 1950? I know that you have to have a copy of your birth > certificate now but probably then many people did not have one. > > I really appreciate all advice and information on this. > > Thanks, > Virginia > > virgpat@usfamily.net > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Social Security Application - abt. 1940 >I was told that what I got was ALL that was available . . . and because it > was the only time I ever ordered one, I was not impressed. I understand your frustration. I don't know when your person may have applied for their SSN, but the Social Security Administration handles millions of applications...(we have now 300 million citizens). They receive thousands of such requests yearly. At the time you requested, someone else may have requested the same file, thus it couldn't be found. Or, at some point the application had been lost. It happens. Also, since you had ordered just the computer extract, that was all they were required to provide, "all that is available". They can not set up a file for "awaiting further payment", or send documents COD. The SSA's responsibility for genealogy research is not part of their Congressionally mandated responsibilities, so for budget, they don't receive the additional thousands of dollars to perform those duties. So, there is also a long delay in receiving those documents. Again, I'm sorry for your experience. (I am not an employee of the SSA).

Thanks Ron. Yes, she died in 1969. The index shows her birthday as 1887 but I think it might have been 1881. I'm trying to get information on her parents, etc. I haven't been able to find a birth certificate for her. Guess it might be worthwhile sending for it. Thanks, Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bestrom" <RBestrom@earthlink.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Social Security Application - abt. 1940 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > >> Does anyone know what information I might find by sending for a copy of a >> Soc. Sec. Application for a person who probably started collecting >> between >> 1940 and 1950? I know that you have to have a copy of your birth >> certificate now but probably then many people did not have one. > > Virginia, > If you send for a copy of the Social Security Number (SSN) > application, > all you will receive is a copy of the form (the Form SS-5) completed by > the > applicant or a computer extract, (see below for explanation). If the > person > had died very recently you could request information from their claim > files. > But it sounds like the person died long ago. > > The SS-5 requested the following information: > Full name > Full name at birth, including maiden name > Present mailing address > Age at last birthday > Date of birth > Place of birth (city, county, State) > Father's full name > Mother's full name, including maiden name > Sex > Race as indicated by the applicant > Whether the applicant ever applied for Social Security or Railroad > Retirement before > Current employer's name and address > Date signed > Applicant's signature > > Here is some links to the Social Security Administration: > > This link explains how to order a copy of the application, the SS-5. An > exact copy of the application will cost you $27.00 if you know the Social > Security Number, $29.00 if you do not. OR, you can get just a computer > extract, this is just a computer print out of the information that is on > the > application. This will cost you $16.00 if you know the SSN, $18.00 if you > do not. While this method is cheaper, the additional expense for an exact > copy will be more of a genealogy value, showing the handwriting of the > applicant: > http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=138&p_created=955632753&p_sid=QKNT4tJh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzgmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PW9idGFpbmluZyByZWNvcmRz&p_li=&p_topview=1 > > Here is an example of what the SS-5 looks like TODAY. > http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5.pdf > > This link will give you some general background information on the SSA: > http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html > > Ron Bestrom > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> > You don't just get copies of whatever is in the file, you get only what > they have > committed to the computer, or at least that is all I got . . . it was one > page with no more > information than I had in the first place; however, many other people tell > me they have learned much more than I did. Jeanine, you must have ordered the computer extract for $16.00 (current cost). If you would have ordered the exact copy, you would have received a machine copy of the exact form your person wrote on (or typed) when they applied for their SSN. As far as other information, most of the claim information is destroyed about three years after the death of the person.

Does anyone know what information I might find by sending for a copy of a Soc. Sec. Application for a person who probably started collecting between 1940 and 1950? I know that you have to have a copy of your birth certificate now but probably then many people did not have one. I really appreciate all advice and information on this. Thanks, Virginia virgpat@usfamily.net --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > Thanks Ron. Yes, she died in 1969. The index shows her birthday as 1887 > but I think it might have been 1881. I'm trying to get information on her > parents, etc. I haven't been able to find a birth certificate for her. > Guess it might be worthwhile sending for it. You may have done this; but, have you obtained her death certificate? I'm not familiar with the Minnesota ones, but some states include the names of the parents. The Social Security Death Index obtains its information from Minnesota through the Office of Vital Statistics, Minnesota Department of Health, or through the local funeral homes via computer...voluntarily. Below are portions of a posting I made on another list, (I redacted parts not applicable): Good Luck The Minnesota Death Certificate Index: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/search.cfm has Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) link, ... But, Listers...It is a good site to find deceased if you hadn't seen it before. It also leads to a Birth Index for births 1900-1916. That site did indicate: "The certificate was registered with the local county registrar and the original copy sent to the Office of Vital Statistics, Minnesota Department of Health". I went to their site: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/search.cfm?bhcp=1 I did a search for "SSN". This window: http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/chs/osr/deathreg/ssap.html might answer the question. It also identifies the form "SSA-721" is voluntary. The SSA-721 is "The Statement of Death by the Funeral Director". As these windows indicate, when a funeral director reports a death to the Minnesota Department of Vital Statistics, it is automatically sent to the SSA, or they fax one directly to the SSA. So, I'm "assuming" the reporting to the SSA of a persons death is not due to the issuance of a Death Certificate, it is due to the funeral home inputting that information in the state computer system, or sending a fax to the SSA. But, it also indicates the report is voluntary. BUT, I'm "guessing", it would behoove the funeral directors to forward the form...if that initiates the death payment.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > Does anyone know what information I might find by sending for a copy of a > Soc. Sec. Application for a person who probably started collecting between > 1940 and 1950? I know that you have to have a copy of your birth > certificate now but probably then many people did not have one. Virginia, If you send for a copy of the Social Security Number (SSN) application, all you will receive is a copy of the form (the Form SS-5) completed by the applicant or a computer extract, (see below for explanation). If the person had died very recently you could request information from their claim files. But it sounds like the person died long ago. The SS-5 requested the following information: Full name Full name at birth, including maiden name Present mailing address Age at last birthday Date of birth Place of birth (city, county, State) Father's full name Mother's full name, including maiden name Sex Race as indicated by the applicant Whether the applicant ever applied for Social Security or Railroad Retirement before Current employer's name and address Date signed Applicant's signature Here is some links to the Social Security Administration: This link explains how to order a copy of the application, the SS-5. An exact copy of the application will cost you $27.00 if you know the Social Security Number, $29.00 if you do not. OR, you can get just a computer extract, this is just a computer print out of the information that is on the application. This will cost you $16.00 if you know the SSN, $18.00 if you do not. While this method is cheaper, the additional expense for an exact copy will be more of a genealogy value, showing the handwriting of the applicant: http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=138&p_created=955632753&p_sid=QKNT4tJh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzgmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PW9idGFpbmluZyByZWNvcmRz&p_li=&p_topview=1 Here is an example of what the SS-5 looks like TODAY. http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5.pdf This link will give you some general background information on the SSA: http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html Ron Bestrom

Alicia, How do I contact him? Adding names is not a problem as you know as I see you are a MI cc as well and know about these things. Thanks for the response. These horror stories that our ancestors had to go through in their travels to America no one will ever know what that is _really_ like. The way they were treated on the ship / ports etc. Thanks Brenda will pass Rikhard's email on to them. You would have to ask him if he wants this on line. Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore Public Relations www.raogk.org Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness kingsley@aol.com Quebec & U.S. Researcher

Hi Brenda, It belongs to Rikhard and he wanted it passed along to the world. As people find their missing family on it, his list grows as he adds the name to it.I recently found a missing person on it that has a sad story. His wife was killed in the Itlalian Hall disaster on Christmas eve. He must have been overcome with grief and left his children behind here to be raised by others. His name appears on the list of executed. His family now has some measure of closure. I did forgot to ask, if anyone would like to add a name or names to the list, I will pass Rikhard's email on to them. You would have to ask him if he wants this on line. Alicia Marshall > > Hi Alicia, > Is this data going to be online? I am willing to do that if so. > I am not Finnish but my German and ? grandfather, Amel Wolfgram, settled > in > Todd County, married Matilda Zacharias and remained there, almost to his > death. My father, Ben, left the county in 1928 for MI met my mother and > here we > are today! ;) > > Again, regarding the list - I will do a web page if desired. > Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > MIGenWeb CC > Volunteer: _www.raogk.org_ (http://www.raogk.org) > > In a message dated 11/3/2006 9:56:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > alicia@chartermi.net writes: > > Rikhard Laiho along with Dr Rudolph Pinola's work has been put into a > database. It is a list of Finnish American's lured back to Soviet > Karelia. Finland > lost (ceded) part of Karelia to Russia after the war. > > > Mr. Laiho has been kind enough to tell us to spread the list to those who > ask. It has 1,585 names of people. Some were executed and others never > got to > come back to America or return to Finland. > If any of you have missing Finnish family, they may be among this list. > There are many Minnesota names on it. > I can send it to those who ask, it is in a Microsoft works format. > Alicia Marshall > alicia@chartermi.net > > > > > Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > Public Relations > www.raogk.org > Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness > kingsley@aol.com > Quebec & U.S. Researcher > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Alicia, Is this data going to be online? I am willing to do that if so. I am not Finnish but my German and ? grandfather, Amel Wolfgram, settled in Todd County, married Matilda Zacharias and remained there, almost to his death. My father, Ben, left the county in 1928 for MI met my mother and here we are today! ;) Again, regarding the list - I will do a web page if desired. Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore MIGenWeb CC Volunteer: _www.raogk.org_ (http://www.raogk.org) In a message dated 11/3/2006 9:56:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, alicia@chartermi.net writes: Rikhard Laiho along with Dr Rudolph Pinola's work has been put into a database. It is a list of Finnish American's lured back to Soviet Karelia. Finland lost (ceded) part of Karelia to Russia after the war. Mr. Laiho has been kind enough to tell us to spread the list to those who ask. It has 1,585 names of people. Some were executed and others never got to come back to America or return to Finland. If any of you have missing Finnish family, they may be among this list. There are many Minnesota names on it. I can send it to those who ask, it is in a Microsoft works format. Alicia Marshall alicia@chartermi.net Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore Public Relations www.raogk.org Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness kingsley@aol.com Quebec & U.S. Researcher

Rikhard Laiho along with Dr Rudolph Pinola's work has been put into a database. It is a list of Finnish American's lured back to Soviet Karelia. Finland lost (ceded) part of Karelia to Russia after the war. Mr. Laiho has been kind enough to tell us to spread the list to those who ask. It has 1,585 names of people. Some were executed and others never got to come back to America or return to Finland. If any of you have missing Finnish family, they may be among this list. There are many Minnesota names on it. I can send it to those who ask, it is in a Microsoft works format. Alicia Marshall alicia@chartermi.net ------------------------------- Houghton Co. MIGenWeb http://www.mfhn.com/houghton

I received confirmation today on order 40159 that the death certificate for Francis Jeffery will be shipped soon. Since I have already paid for it, is it possible that someone would be able to scan and e-mail a copy since my father-in-law ( who I have been researching for) will be here for a visit this weekend and I would like to show it to him. Francis died on May 2, 1916 in St. Paul. Thanks for any help you can give me. Virginia virgpat@usfamily.net --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

Thanks. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Olson" <rjo723@charter.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Death Certificate - MN > It can take a few weeks. They are very good about processing requests. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:46 AM > Subject: [MINNESOTA] Death Certificate - MN > > >>I ordered a death certificate on Oct. 9th and got the e-mail confirming >>it. >>As of today, they have not processed it or taken the money from my >>account. >>Does anyone know who I can call at the Historical Society?? >> >> Thanks, >> Virginia >> >> >> --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- >> http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

It can take a few weeks. They are very good about processing requests. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Patricelli" <virgpat@usfamily.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: [MINNESOTA] Death Certificate - MN >I ordered a death certificate on Oct. 9th and got the e-mail confirming it. >As of today, they have not processed it or taken the money from my account. >Does anyone know who I can call at the Historical Society?? > > Thanks, > Virginia > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The website said two so that's why I was concerned. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Churchill" <Mary@tgmsales.com> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Death Certificate - MN > > > Patience, this can take 4-6 weeks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: minnesota-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:minnesota-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Virginia Patricelli > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:47 AM > To: minnesota@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MINNESOTA] Death Certificate - MN > > I ordered a death certificate on Oct. 9th and got the e-mail confirming > it. > As of today, they have not processed it or taken the money from my > account. > Does anyone know who I can call at the Historical Society?? > > Thanks, > Virginia > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

Patience, this can take 4-6 weeks. -----Original Message----- From: minnesota-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:minnesota-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Virginia Patricelli Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:47 AM To: minnesota@rootsweb.com Subject: [MINNESOTA] Death Certificate - MN I ordered a death certificate on Oct. 9th and got the e-mail confirming it. As of today, they have not processed it or taken the money from my account. Does anyone know who I can call at the Historical Society?? Thanks, Virginia --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I ordered a death certificate on Oct. 9th and got the e-mail confirming it. As of today, they have not processed it or taken the money from my account. Does anyone know who I can call at the Historical Society?? Thanks, Virginia --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

In a message dated 10/24/2006 2:21:59 PM Central Daylight Time, jreck@ecenet.com writes: so you are saying they did not need access to the info at ancestry.com then to do this??? Of course, that is what you are saying . . . my point exactly!! Jeanine The point that you are coming across as making on this list is being very sceptical about the causes and reasons why ancestry has removed the dates and to me you are coming across also as being completely against them making money to run a business and to expand that business. I have a full access subscription and get the same as you do, no dates when doing a search on ancestry. But I honestly don't know the reason why, am not going to speculate on the reason, will wait to see if it is as some are saying, there is a problem with the search engine or there is another reason. >From what I am reading in all the different places that I am aware of it being discussed, the problem cropped up after they did the last update, so it could possibly be a techical one. As for buying discs, yes I do so, when I can afford to, even though I have full access to help during times of problems, or when I am moving around within the family to help further the info they are giving me. I have made discs for family and know what the cost of doing so comercially is, so that it has the proper accessing program on it so anyone can open it, whether they have all the fancy programs that I have or not. These discs also enable me to go to "Aunt Minnie's", who is 90, smart as a whip, but has no computer nor internet access and still answer questions about the other side of her family when I take my computer with me to see her. The older relatives love it!! Not only do they help me with what I am working on, let me scan their pics, but they get to have questions answered about a different part of their family they have wondered about. Then I can also print up what I found for them and they have it in black and white that they can see and tell others about. If in the future I find that ancestry is going back on their word to me regarding my subscription I will take it up with them, and if at any point I need to do more than that I will do it, with professional help. But in the meantime I see no reason to run off on tangents about what is going on when I do not know for sure. Annie in Minnesota

I'M SAYING THIS HAS BEEN TALKED TO DEATH! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iris Kisch" <irisak@telus.net> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Identity Theft >I have been reading through all the messages on identity theft, and finally > decided to weigh in on the issue. I agree that removal of all birth dates > can present a great hurdle to those of us who are on a constant quest for > the dearly departed. I also agree that birth dates for the living should > remain a private matter, however, once a person is deceased, it should be > made public. > > The perpetrators of identity theft will stoop to using the information > from > a deceased person to ply their particular craft, but this cannot and > should > not affect the living. Birthdates are just one source of information to > someone who specializes in identity theft, and adds to their arsenal of > information on a particular individual. Someone bent on stealing a > person's > identity will also resort to improperly discarded mail, credit card > statements, credit card offers, discarded bank statements, as well as > information that many of us post to various internet sites. > > If we are concerned about protecting our identity, we should not provide > birth dates to various web sites when we register; we should not provide > social insurance or social security numbers readily; we should watch what > information we provide to store clerks, etc. Identity theft is more than > just birth dates - we play a large part in protecting our identity from > thieves. > > As far as Ancestry.com's website changes, perhaps we should wait and see > what is going to be offered. They may decide to post birth dates of those > who have been deceased for a specified number of years, or not. We paid > for > certain information, but if that information is causing problems, lets > ensure that our access to information for the departed remains unaffected. > We should perhaps concentrate our efforts to let Ancestry.com know about > our > concerns, and at the same time applaud their efforts to protect the > privacy > of living individuals. > > Iris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeanine Reckinger" <jreck@ecenet.com> > To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Identity Theft > > >> so you are saying they did not need access to the info at ancestry.com >> then >> to do this??? Of course, that is what you are saying . . . my point >> exactly!! Jeanine >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Hcounter@aol.com> >> To: <minnesota@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [MINNESOTA] Identity Theft >> >> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/24/2006 12:52:56 PM Central Daylight Time, >>> jreck@ecenet.com writes: >>> >>> I saw more Identity theft from bank employees than common strangers >>> >>> >>> This happened to me in the 60s. Someone had checks with the same name >>> and a >>> number one off from mine and then wrote checks that got bounced off my >>> account. Since I had a somewhat unusual name because of the order and >>> combination >>> of my given names and a somewhat unusual Czech surname as soon as I >>> found >>> out what was going on I was looking at bank employee as far as I was >>> concerned >>> and just closed my account and opened one at the credit union for the >>> company >>> I worked for. Had no further problems. >>> >>> Annie in Minnesota >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/494 - Release Date: >> 10/24/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message