Terry, The questions you are asking are ones which are important to me also. I will now share with you, what I have found so far. I shall hope that other researchers will jump into this discussion, and we will all move forward in our joint understanding. First of all, I am the grandaughter of Eddie Bernard Mimms, of Russellville, KY, s/o Gideon Mimms of Russellville, KY, s/o Drury Shadrach Woodson Mimms of Russellville, KY, s/o Robert Mimms who arrived at Russellville, Logan Co., KY in 1813. Robert Mimms is the s/o Shadrach Mimms, s/o David Mimms and Agnes Weldy. Shadrach Mimms and wife Elizabeth Woodson were of the Goochland Co., VA Mimms/Mims group. I wanted to find the COMMON Roots of the early Mimms families in Kentucky. Here is a list I developed: #1. Robert Mimms, s/o Shadrack Mimms, s/o David Mimms and Agnes Weldy. Robert Mimms arrived in Logan Co., KY as of 1813, at Russellville, Ky. (My family group) #2. Linah Mims, s/o ??, s/o ?? He arrived in Christian Co as of 1817. #3. Shadrach Mims, s/o ??, s/?? He arrived in Logan Co., KY as of 1811. #4. Gideon Mims, s/o ??, s/?? He arrived Christian/Todd Co KY. as of 1817. So here we see 4 separate men, who all are Mimms/Mims, who all arrive in KY at 1811 to 1817, and all settle close to each other. Are they brothers? Cousins? Second Cousins? I have noted that Shadrach Mims and Gideon Mims, as listed #3 and #4 above, were BROTHERS. That info came to me from another researcher, and I have not personally confirmed this. Gideon and Shadrach Mims, both being sons of David Mims and Martha Diuguid Not so long ago, on this mailing list, a kind fellow Mims researcher, provided me with a 1789 Goochland Tax Roll list. Listed there was: 1. Gideon Mims 2. Robert Mims 3. Linah Mims 4. Robert Mims, Jr. 5. Estate of David Mims, deceased. 5. Elizabeth Mims My Shadrach Mims had died 11-17-1777, so obviously he is not listed in 1789. From this listing of 1789 Tax Roll listed above, another researcher has identified each name as such: #1. Gideon, s/o David and Agnes #2. Robert, s/o John and Sarah #3. Robert, the younger, s/o Sharach and Elizabeth #4. Estate of David Mims deceased as of 1781. #5. Elizabeth Mims, widow of Shadrach Mims who died 1777. BUT THIS LEAVES LINAH MIMS AS A BIG QUESTION MARK?? Who does he belong to? I have NEVER researched Linah Mims, the political man. He sounds very interesting, and I surely hope there is a current researcher of him who will share information here about him. Best regards, and hoping to learn more. Lillian Kathleen Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Reigel" <terry@reigelridge.com> To: <MIMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:01 AM Subject: [MIMS,MIMMS,MIMBS] Linah of Greenbrier and Christian Counties > I've been doing a lot of work on Linah Mims, who appeared in > Greenbrier Co. VA (now WV) by 1800 and moved to Christian Co. KY about > 1818. It would appear he descended from the Mims of Goochland, but > how? > > What I know of him is: > - Probably born 1770-1775, based on census data > - Appears on Greenbrier Co. tax list in 1880 > - Married Rebecca Davis of Greenbrier by Feb 1803 > - Elected to VA House of Delegates 1806-1811 > - Member of VA Council of State 1811-1818, a full time job in Richmond > - Moved to Christian Co. KY about 1818, and apparently was a > successful famer > - Appointed agent to Northwest Indians 1832, apparently leaving his > three youngest daughters with his oldest son, John Harrison Mims, in > Caldwell Co. > - Returned to Caldwell by 1838 > - Died, probably in Caldwell, 1847-1850 > > But I've found no clue as to his parentage. What drove him to move to > the mountains of Greenbrier, with no apparent relatives in the area? > Then, he became President of the Council of State, and thus Lt. Gov. > in 1814, and a leading figure in VA politics through the "War of > 1812." So why did he suddenly lose interest, missing most meetings > after Jul 1817, and finally resign his post in Oct 1818, moving to > Christian Co.? > > I've seen some suggestions he had brothers already in KY. Does anyone > have any evidence they were actually brothers? Or any suggestions > about where to start looking for the family he left to move to > Greenbrier? > > Terry Reigel > > > > ==== MIMS Mailing List ==== > Ann Mims-Neff > List Moderator >

Thanks for the response, Lillian. I've just started looking at the other Mims in KY and VA to see if there are any clues to the connection for Linah. The 1789 Goochland Tax Roll you mention is very interesting. It's the first time I've seen a Linah at that point in time. I've not yet done a careful study, but I didn't think any of the known earlier Linahs were still alive. But it seems a bit early for Linah of Greenbrier/Christian. I've got him born between 1770 and 1770 based on his age in the 1820, 30, and 40 censuses. If that is correct, he would be at best 19 in 1789. How old did one have to be to be listed?? Has anyone seen a 1961 paper "Leaves From The Mims Family Tree" by Sam Mims? In it he tries to lay out many of the male descendants of Thomas Mims, supposedly the immigrant. If so, any ideas on the accuracy of his data and conclusions? I've looked at the Greenbrier records available from the FHL to see if there's anything that might offer clues. The good, or is it bad, news is that the FHL folks were very active in Greenbrier -- I've got a stack with maybe 3 dozen films that contain land or court records that include the time he was there. I've seen a few cites to secondary sources that contain some extracts of early Greenbrier records. But I've not seen any cites to primary sources. Has anyone searched those records for mentions of Linah? Terry Reigel > > > Not so long ago, on this mailing list, a kind fellow Mims > researcher, provided me with a 1789 Goochland Tax Roll > list. Listed there was: 1. Gideon Mims 2. Robert Mims 3. > Linah Mims 4. Robert Mims, Jr. 5. Estate of David Mims, > deceased. 5. Elizabeth Mims > > My Shadrach Mims had died 11-17-1777, so obviously he is > not listed in 1789. > > >> From this listing of 1789 Tax Roll listed above, >> another researcher has >> > identified each name as such: > #1. Gideon, s/o David and Agnes > #2. Robert, s/o John and Sarah > #3. Robert, the younger, s/o Sharach and Elizabeth > #4. Estate of David Mims deceased as of 1781. > #5. Elizabeth Mims, widow of Shadrach Mims who died 1777. > > > BUT THIS LEAVES LINAH MIMS AS A BIG QUESTION MARK?? Who > does he belong to? > > > I have NEVER researched Linah Mims, the political man. > He sounds very interesting, and I surely hope there is a > current researcher of him who will share information here > about him.

Terry, Answer to your first question, of how old a person must be to be listed in 1789 Tax list? I don't know for sure, but common sense would say as old as a person is who is paying taxes or owns property, etc. Probably some 19-20 yr olds were in that bracket, as many were already married and owning farms at that age. Concerning the 1961 paper by Sam Mims: I have not seen it. Where would someone find that??? If anyone knows the answer, please post it here to the entire list. If anyone is familiar with the "Leaves from the Mims Tree" paper, could you give your opinion of it's content and accuracy? Best regards, Lillian Kathleen Martin

It seems that all of the experienced Mims researchers are suddenly shy, (I am a novice), because Sam Mims "book" is known to most of them. Sam Mims' "Leaves of Grass" is more like a pamphlet than a book. I have it somewhere, but can't locate. As I recall it was 15-20 pages. Have read numerous messages from various researchers indicating that at least some of Sam Mims' work is in dispute. To my knowledge I do not tie into his line, so his "book" was not helpful to me. Since it is so small, perhaps someone will post it on line. Ralph Bailey Mandeville, La. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <MIMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: [MIMS,MIMMS,MIMBS] Linah Mims reply > Terry, > > Answer to your first question, of how old a person must be to be listed in > 1789 Tax list? > > I don't know for sure, but common sense would say as old as a person is who > is paying taxes or owns property, etc. > > Probably some 19-20 yr olds were in that bracket, as many were already > married and owning farms at that age. > > Concerning the 1961 paper by Sam Mims: I have not seen it. Where would > someone find that??? If anyone knows the answer, please post it here to the > entire list. > > If anyone is familiar with the "Leaves from the Mims Tree" paper, could you > give your opinion of it's content and accuracy? > > Best regards, > Lillian Kathleen Martin > > > ==== MIMS Mailing List ==== > Ann Mims-Neff > List Moderator > >

I tried posting it to the List and it did not work.....where can I post it for everyone so they have online access? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Bailey To: MIMS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MIMS,MIMMS,MIMBS] Linah Mims reply It seems that all of the experienced Mims researchers are suddenly shy, (I am a novice), because Sam Mims "book" is known to most of them. Sam Mims' "Leaves of Grass" is more like a pamphlet than a book. I have it somewhere, but can't locate. As I recall it was 15-20 pages. Have read numerous messages from various researchers indicating that at least some of Sam Mims' work is in dispute. To my knowledge I do not tie into his line, so his "book" was not helpful to me. Since it is so small, perhaps someone will post it on line. Ralph Bailey Mandeville, La. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <MIMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: [MIMS,MIMMS,MIMBS] Linah Mims reply > Terry, > > Answer to your first question, of how old a person must be to be listed in > 1789 Tax list? > > I don't know for sure, but common sense would say as old as a person is who > is paying taxes or owns property, etc. > > Probably some 19-20 yr olds were in that bracket, as many were already > married and owning farms at that age. > > Concerning the 1961 paper by Sam Mims: I have not seen it. Where would > someone find that??? If anyone knows the answer, please post it here to the > entire list. > > If anyone is familiar with the "Leaves from the Mims Tree" paper, could you > give your opinion of it's content and accuracy? > > Best regards, > Lillian Kathleen Martin > > > ==== MIMS Mailing List ==== > Ann Mims-Neff > List Moderator > > ==== MIMS Mailing List ==== Ann Mims-Neff List Moderator

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:07:42 +1100, Lilly wrote: > Terry, > Not so long ago, on this mailing list, a kind fellow Mims > researcher, provided me with a 1789 Goochland Tax Roll > list. Listed there was: > 1. Gideon Mims > 2. Robert Mims > 3. Linah Mims > 4. Robert Mims, Jr. > 5. Estate of David Mims, deceased. > 5. Elizabeth Mims Lilly, With the aid of the URL Ann provided yesterday, I looked at this list. While I can see how someone could read the 3rd entry as Linah, after comparing the initial letter to other "S" names on the list, it seems very clear to me that Ann's identification of that entry as Sarah Mims is correct. This resolves the question of how Linah could appear so early, but leaves us back to square one on where he came from before he appeared in Greenbrier about 1800. Terry Reigel