Ann, Here is what I have on the first family in question, and I agree it is the family you named. James Mims b 1803 Lamar, darlington, SC; d 1850 same place; m Eleanor b 1805; children: Elizabeth b 1827 James Jackson b 1829 Eliza b 1832 David J. b 1835 Martha A. b 1838 (all in Lamar) Father of James Mims was George W. Mims, Sr., b 1776 Darlington, SC; d 1841 Darlington; m 1797 Darlington, Julia b 1777 Darlington. Father of George W. Mims was Richard Mims, Sr., mother, Mary Elizabeth Andrews. I do not have the other Eleanor nor that Rufus in my database. The only Rufus I have was Rufus Marion Mims b 1845, d 1921, son of Jefferson Augustus Mims and Susan Marion Fuller. Ann if you want this GEDcom, as is, it has 2719 persons in it all related to the Mims surname, to do with as you wish. Linda in KCMO