This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UGB.2ACI/1759.2 Message Board Post: hmmm...the information I have is that he was married to Matilda Unknown and then married Madeline Manore. It's nice to have a surname to attach to Matilda. He had children Clara, Mary, Dottie, James, Susan, Ann and Sarah. If you do a search on Grodi-Groudin in these boards you may come up with a few others who are researching this specific line. It seems to me someone had a copy of Madeline's death certificate as well as the marriage. I descend from William's first cousin Ida.