This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UGB.2ACI/10.247.1012.1253.1249.1301.1303.1.1 Message Board Post: Cecile was an industrial spy???? Wow I never heard that. Thanks for the information not only on her but the photo as well. I remeber Cecile. I actually have a copy of that Madonna photo, it is great. We spoke many times in the past. Are you the one who has all of the family photos from the Venia side? Were you ever able to find a photo of Edith Venia? That is my Great Great Grandmother. Email me any time Marchi1856@aol.com