The Marquette County naturalization records are stored at the Northern Michigan University Archives on the campus of Northern Michigan University. They are indexed and they index is online. Indexes to Naturalization Records I do not know if they do lookups or what it would cost. Hope this helps someone. Laurie

About Federal District Court in Marquette. Tom, ask the State Archives if they know where the Marquette Federal District Court records are. Or ask the Chicago Branch of the NARA. The counties usually keep their own circuit court records, although the State Archives are trying to gather all of the naturalization records. I believe the State Archives has the Marquette Circuit Court naturalization records and they are online. Nancy

I'm new to this particular list, and as my subject heading reveals I'm on a quest to locate my grandfather's naturalization documents. William Metsa came from Finland in 1905, and was naturalized in 1912, according to entries in the 1902 Census. I am only aware of my grandfather's residence in Houghton Co., but my earliest documentary evidence of that is his 1909 marriage license. Between 1905 and 1909 his whereabouts are not know with any certainty to me. After having checked with Houghton's county clerk with no success, then afterwards with the INS with the same result, it's been suggested that perhaps my grandfather did his filing with the Federal District Court in Marquette. Has anyone checked for naturalization records in that court, and if so, can someone give me an idea of the cost for copies and the process for requesting a search? I am assuming that any such records which might be held at the Federal Court would be entirely separate from naturalization files generated within Marquette County's own court. Would that be a correct assumption? Tom Osborn Rancho Santa Margarita, CA

Subject: Interview First Kiss - howtos Part 4 of 4 Where did you go to the DENTIST....Do you recall the first time... The Dentists name? Where did you go to get a professional photograph taken.... And on what occasions... Where did you purchase your wedding dress/suit.... Your wedding ring.... Did you jointly decide on wedding rings... What was your wedding day like...temp, kind of day, what were the festivities like... What was your proposal like...what were THE WORDS, THE ENVIRONMENT... What did your parents say when you told them.... What did you actually say when you told them.... How did you first meet... How soon before your first date and how soon before you married... Where did you first live as a couple....and then where.... Were you BORN at home or in a hospital... Were your children BORN in a hospital or at home... What did your childhood family grow on the farm as a cash crop... Did you have a vegetable stand... What were your responsibilities at the stand... How did your family get to church... What was different about church than today... What was the first television program that you saw... When did you first get a color television... a vcr... Do you know how to program the vcr or to fix the time... Do you have a CD player or cassette player or 8 track... Did you ever have an 8 track player... What is the last best movie that you saw.... Who is your favorite musical artist... When was the first time you were away from the childhood home.. When did you first get a microwave... What do you use it for mostly... When did you first buy a camera and why did you decide to buy it.. Do you have a computer that you use? What do you use it for... How did you learn to use it... When you were on the farm did you have animals.... Dairy? What kind of cows... And where did you take your milk What diary processed your milk.... Did you have geese, chickens, etc.. WHERE did you get the geese or ducks.. How did they get to your farm... Who were your best friends... Did they live near to the childhood home or near school... What was your hardest subject in school....easiest? WHO was your favorite teacher...subject, why... What color were your farm buildings and what was your silo made of... Did you ever smoke a pipe, cigar, cigarette.....Were any homemade... Who in the family is also a genealogist... Who in the family knows how to knit, crochet... How did they learn... Are any representative samples still around.... ASK about the saddest time in their lives..... BE SURE TO HAVE another question to follow this...perhaps: Did they ever smoke marijuana? And why was that? Did they have any pets... What happened when animals on the farm were sick.. When was the first time they drove a tractor? Did they ever break an arm or leg? or finger? Did their parent have all their fingers.. Do they know how the parent lost a finger - if appropro... Ask if anyone in the family had heart problems.. kidney problems... diabetes problems.... breathing problems... Heavy coughing, light coughing.... BAD snoring.... Ask WHEN these occurred in life...teens, 20's, 30's, 40's 50 hears old... The age is important here....it may help in determining for the future, whether these illnesses are part of environmental or hereditary reasons... make a note of these instances and time of life on your charts.. WHAT was Christmas morning like... How did you celebrate Birthdays... What did you wrap presents in... How did you celebrate HALLOWEEN.... HOW did you celebrate Thanksgiving.... What did you purchase for this meal and what did you have from the farm HOW did you get to grade school, to high school. At the second interview, ask them to get their photos out and their certificates, and all the stuff they have in their shoebox of old family stuff.... and use that as part of the second interview, along with the details of the OTHER parts of the family outline. This second interview is always the hardest because they are WORKING at remembering...so keep it shorter and set up a third visit..... start another video tape at each meeting....do not continue on the preceding tape... When you are done.be sure to make a copy..at least one. One for the interviewee,.one or two for your local library and maybe the historical society. Take that tab out of your original one AS SOON AS YOU TAKE IT FROM THE CAMERA.. to find this stuff again, check the roots archives with INTERACTIVE SEARCH Keyword KISS.. be prepared but ~ have fun... valentine

Subject: Interview First Kiss - howtos Part 2 of 4 I have done over 50 interviews... totallying over 200 hours... all these tricks work...keep yuour visit on film to about 2 hours, not longer...make a date inside a two week horizon to revisit. They will want you to come back! Cause you are now their newest FRIEND and visitor....(and you will WANT to go!) If you cannot get the Fletcher book, then get your own list together and KNOW it when you are at the interview.... Pretend you are Barbara Walters... BE PREPARED! Also have your tapes ready to slide into the machine....all unwrapped, etc. etc. etc. I don't give prepared questions to the interviewee ahead of time because the response would be too 'canned". What you want from the interview is the essence, the spontaneity of the answer..... You can, later, give them a family group sheet that you have prepared based on the interviewing that you have done so that they can put in the dates and places and so that they can get some help in doing it...almost like homework.... BUT specific dates on the video, at least in the first one, should not be your biggest reason for the interview... Getting an overview of the family and an overview of the places and environments that they have been in, I think, should be the main emphasis. Probably the most important thing to me is to get the video machine turned on asap so that the entire preparation time before the exact questioning is on the video...this is what makes this video document so valuable.... and it should not be edited. Do not try to edit as you are filming; it will ruin the effort... Keep this as your master for all time and 'clip' from it if you want to, but keep this as your source document... I have regularly interviewed one person at a time, even if a spouse exists.... It keeps the train of thought within one family ...... A second interview can be for the other spouse and the third can be with the both together. This combined interview can include stories about their married lives, about their children, about themselves... and the tape will show how they interact with each other. This is what you want, not just the dates... Dates you will be able to get.... Ask them to get their holy cards and news clips and obits out for you so that you can copy them for your project... "maybe they can get them for the next trip"...... Although you are interviewing ONE person, you could have a helper who knows the family along with YOU and who can also ask questions.... Just be sure that neither of you editorialize on the tape... The interviewer(s) should be interviewers not interviewees! So watch what you are saying if it is not a QUESTION.... I would forego the tape recorder.. now that video cameras are available and video tape is cheap.. You can get 8 hours 160 from target at about $2.00 a tape when you buy 8 of them at a time. use a VHS video camera and it will take pictures on a 160 tape for 2.5 hours. at SP. You might have a problem buying one now because the media has changed.. but just buy more of the ''tapes'' that you need for your machine and you're a GO. note.. 2.5 hours is more than enough time for one person to sit and talk. if you need more, then set up a second interview. be sure to go over some of the same questions again from the first tape and then go on with new ones. be sure, as you are have the info fresh in your mind to jot down some of the primary questions you want to get answered on the second trip.. later. cover the blinking light with electricians tape -without fail.. it drives even the best interviewee batty seeing it blink.... and start the machine recording as soon as you know where you will be doing the work... then never just say "okay now we will start".. just start! whether you actually have the person's face on the tape is not really important.their words can be on video tape. and almost everyone has a vcr of some type.but hardly anyone has a tape recorder.. I would suggest tho that you do include their personages on the tape for their mannerisms and the way some people talk with their hands is quite important. i cannot say enough times....TURN ON THE VIDEO camera as soon as you walk into the room or as soon as they walk into the room.. THe set up and getting ready is part of the whole aura. ALWAYS get their names.where they were born exactly. and their parents full names.. both of them.grandparents too. If they stumble on a question, go to another. IT IS NOT A TEST! have a good script. and try to have two people doing the interviewing... One as primary, one as secondary and working the cameral..Keep the camera backed up enough to cover more than just the persons face.perhaps their hands and what might be on the table. we always tape at their kitchen table or favorite chair. so find that comfortable place.. If on the table, then they might have photos. make sure that the photo that they are speaking about is briefly in the frame.. Go back afterward and do close ups after you are done talking. do not stop the thought process.. Ask, AS YOU ALL GET COMFORTABLE, in time "for the next trip", to get the personal telephone books out and those of their parents....

Subject: Interview First Kiss - howtos Part 3 of 4 THE ABSOLUTE BEST QUESTION for man or woman is (and be ready with your second question etc because the show is about to happen.....) is "WHEN DID YOU GET YOUR FIRST KISS?" It has never ever failed me. And here are a few off the top of my head....for each person you discuss in the interview....in no particular order I DO NOT EVER GIVE THE LIST AHEAD OF TIME! Ask their parents full names, place of birth, death and cemetery/church ask their full names, place of birth, church Ask their grandparents (all FOUR!) etc. Ask for listing of all the children......(then keep this for NEXT interview...) you will want them to have their address book at hand at the second interview......! Ask WHO is the oldest family person they knew themselves.... go into some detail about this oldest person...... ask if they have anything in their home that belonged to any of these people.... (then keep this for the next interview) when did meet your spouse... WHO are your children (then keep this for the next interview) you will want addresses, etc..... and their children etc. play a musical instrument. speak another language go to high school, where, til when, go to college or any type, did you ever have farm animals did anyone have a missing limb, failing eye sight regular cough, most scared time, most happy time, most difficult time travel outside of the state, the country biggest accomplishment in life describe a house in detail, desribe a homestead in detail talk about work, what was done, how arrived at that occupation, what was a daily activity like at work, was it a safe place What was SUNDAY like in the household....hour by hour.... What was SATURDAY like in the household...hour by hour.. Were you ever with anyone as they passed away, What were your thoughts on that.... What was the most important thing that you ever did to HELP another person. Were you ever in a war or military service... what was that like.... HOW did you actually get enlisted...step by step, WHERE did you enlist... What cemeteries did your family visit... and CHurches.... Did you ever travel by train, or airplane, horse Did you ever smoke a pipe(storebought or?), cigar(storebought or?), cigarette, rolled/storebought If you had an opportunity to have a different occupation, what would it have been If you had the opportunity to change anything in your life, what would it have been.... What did they do during the war effort.... When did they first drive a car....OFFICIALLY and un officially... How much was gas then... Did they pump gas themselves or was it pumped for them... what was the favorite brand... what kinds of cars did they own.... (as for a full list of these cars later....year, color, type, miles purchased new or not...) When did they smoke their first cigarette.... All of the WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN WHY...on this one... How much did they cost... When was the first time they smoked in front of a parent.... What did the parents say.... What brand..... Do they still smoke.... What brand. and how much.. ask, seriously and without judgment..... why do they smoke...have they thought of quitting... If you ask this seriously, you will get a serious answer... Just DO NOT PASS JUDGEMENT.... What kinds of things did they do on dates.. what were the best dates.. What was a typical date like...... Did they often double date.... who were the favorite actors, actresses, favorite movies... WHERE did they go to the movies... How much did they pay and what were the movies like compared to todays' movie house... Did they ever go to a play.... Have they ever ridden exotic animals...camels, elephants, and what was the occasion... Have they ever ridden in a hot air balloon....helicopter... and what was the occasion small plane, large ship... Who in the family was the first to go to a 4 year college...degree in what... Who was the first in the family to purchase a summer home.... What was the childhood home like... (as for a layout of the home and a sketch of the facade....as part of HOMEWORK! When was running water put in... Electricity... a toilet.... a telephone.... What were the days like when these were installed....Describe the day.... What kinds of chores were they responsible for as a child... If you lived on a farm... Sketch a layout of the farm..... Sketch the outline of your big barn...with special attention to the roof line.. Sketch the SILO and the shape of the dome area.... What kind of chores before school...after school.... Talk about anything relating to the SILO Was it poured cement, wood, ceramic, cement block... DO you remember when it was built... What can you tell about that group of days.... Talk about anything relating to the WINDMILL... talk about anything related to the BIG BARN What was the most dangerous thing you did on the farm... What did you get caught doing after you were told NOT TO DO IT? What kinds of tractors did you have. Did you ever drive a team of horses and for what purpose... What were you jobs during threshing.. Where did you take your milk.... Where did you purchase your groceries... Your, clothing, shoes....

Subject: Interview First Kiss - howtos Part 1 a blend of some of my past posts on interviewing.... HERE is a G-R-E-A-T book for those that are going the route of interviewing their elders - the absolute best place to start! All the little things that MAKE a PERSON come to the surface this route... Civil records give us documentation, not the essence of the person... An interview can make that person 'come alive'..... I, myself, did this for about 10 years before I did any real on-line searching.... (course then there wasn't as much on line!) and I had a rather large group of living elders....) It is called RECORDING YOUR FAMILY HISTORY BY WILLIAM FLETCHER by Gamut, NY NY. ISBN 0-396-08887-2 1983, 1986 runs about 300 pages It is packed with questions to ask...And WHY you should ask them, as well as techniques for asking the questions. also: Shirley Hornbeck HORNBECK SURNAME RESOURCE CENTER: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck/hsrc/home.htm or THIS & THAT GENEALOGY TIPS: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck My tips now available from Genealogical Publishing Co.: http://www.genealogybookshop.com/genealogybookshop/files/General,General_Reference/9377.html commentary on interviews and questionaire.... I would suggest using a video camera.....even if the person is NOT VISIBLE on the video.....use it as a tape recorder.... and if you have any photos or other items discussed in the interview, pass them in front of the lens. I have found that if you cover the flashing red light on the video (electricians tape is best), that 'life is better for you' as you tape....plus, they forget about the camera...by the end of your session, they will likely want you to come back for more 'talkin' ALWAYS remember to hold the photos in YOUR hand as you discuss photos, then you can control the speed at which they are looked at and you get a chance to 'label' them in some way...have a pencil(s) handy.... What I do is plug in the camera before it ever gets onto the tripod. Then as soon as I have the machine locked in place and Ihave the area in the viewer, I turn on the machine. and recording.. the time before the actual interviewing is just as much fun as hearing the questions and as you are setting up you can be talking about what you are going to do...what the date is and where you are....ask them their address and how long they have been there, etc.....instead of breaking the bubble with the formal introduction.....and then trying to recapture the moment... just sit down and start asking questions.... they will be eased into the interview this way but they will ask if the camera is on and just tell them oh yes, and go on with your questions.... Have a question in mind for when this happens - because it will! Your job as the interviewer is to keep the questions going....and knowing when to add to your question list on the fly.... YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO THIS, you see it happen on TV all the time... now it is YOUR turn.... If you feel that you need to practice, then interview a spouse...which you should do anyway....or YOURSELF! Always ask if an elder remembers ancestors speaking with accents, if they could speak another language, play instruments, had missing appendages, markings, eyesight/deafness, lifelong illnesses, smoking habits, ability to drive/or not, religious background, school experiences, cemeteries that they visited (that is where you will find people linked to you in some way) and churches that they went to, if even for a marriage, funeral, etc. occupations.- for them selves and for those that were older them themselves.. STAY ORGANIZED...do mix too many people into the interview and if GRANDMA is said, ALWAYS ask "GRANDMA who? and get the real name.... ALWAYS! DO NOT MISS THIS POINT! Ask about their travelling experiences...and work experiences because this is another area(s) where they might have LIVED and that is where some of your records might be. When you take photos of these folks remember to label them EACH INTERVIEW should be identified with a date and the person at the beginning and on the label.....and others present. If you interview again, ask a few questions over again....make sure that you get the same basic response.... Age is a nasty thing sometimes....If they forget something as they talk, go on to another question and come back to the question again... USE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WORDS IN THE REquestion here to trigger new thought process.... Forgetting happens to all of us....that 'it is on the tip of my tongue' usually comes back after another question has been answered..... just format the question a bit different. DO NOT interview with telephones or radios or tv on and with a bunch of people around. make it one on one if at all possible. INTERVIEWING at a birthday gathering is not a good thing, although sometimes the questions do happen. Be prepared with the video and take what you can get, but try to revisit one-on-one at another time...IN THEIR FAVORITE CHAIR....or at THEIR kitchen table... their comfort zones....NOT in a FORMAL setting or sterile place.....

> I found a matchbook cover from my great-grandfather's La Porte (IN) Buick > sales business about 3 years ago on Ebay. It dates to the 1920's. Very > cool. It was in excellent condition. My aunt was the winning bidder... I > couldn't dare bid against her, but at least it's in the family!!! > > I also purchased on Ebay a postcard with a picture of a hospital from > Crawfordsville, IN that another great-grandfather died in after an auto > accident in 1913. It shows the hospital as it would have been when he died. > I had to have it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> > To: <MIMARQUE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:45 AM > Subject: [MIMARQUE] check ebay...frequently > > > > there are those on the list that say - > > "nope, won't go to ebay" > > > > and if they do they figure they are just finding postcards of no interest > or just don't find anything. > > > > but tonight I ran across >

there are those on the list that say - "nope, won't go to ebay" and if they do they figure they are just finding postcards of no interest or just don't find anything. but tonight I ran across a bunch of photo postcards which on their own, based on their subject lines, would have not been of interest to me either UNTIL I read the description and found SURNAMES. LOTS of them! and then there are some that have addressees mentioned that might also be a link to you. so give it a try.. enter in your ancestors hometown name enter in your surname of interest as in "escanaba michigan" and see what is there.. read the description.. look at the picture. print a copy.. CONSIDER ALSO 'bible" in the collectibles. Often these too have names noted in the descriptions.. tighten the search the same as you do in google.com though you might not purchase the item, you might learn, or get a feel for what it might have been like for your ancestor. I caution you, if you click on titles and descriptions, and yo are entering in a query for a place, you will get all those folks that live in these towns that have items on ebay. so I would not click on that option unless you have some time.. but that said, if you are looking for a NAME, then titles and descriptions would be appropriate.. WON'T YOU BE THE HAPPY ONE IF YOU WERE TO COME ACROSS SOMETHING FROM YOUR FAMILY!

Hi All I am new to this list. I am researching the James N.Gordon Sr family. James was married to Mary Jane Elliot and had seven children. Elizabeth born 1846 in England, Helena 1851-52 in Canada, James N. Jr 1853 in Canada, Mary 1855, in Canada, William 1861 in Canada, Harriette 1862 in Canada and Robert A. 1866 in Canada. The Gordon's immigrated to the USA about 1869, obtaining naturalization in 1871 and a homestead in 1879. Any help is appreciated. Joyce

I've been searching for my Great Grandfather who immigrated from England in census for 1870 for about three years now trying to discover where exactly he was born in England and with any luck parents names, siblings. We have him (Joseph Bray) in Iowa in 1880 through 1905census up until his death in 1906 but had not been able to find him in 1870 and finally thanks to Heritage Quest having the 1870 indexed I think he's been located...here is that information 1870 Michigan Marquette Negaunee Series: M593 Roll: 689 Page: 451 Bray Joseph 27 M W England enumerated 8 July 1870 Bray Joseph 27 Minn(miner? b Eng Bray Ellen 23 Keeps house Eng Davy George 23 miner EnglDavy Eliza 18 keeps house Eng Stephens Ann 26 Drpmaker Engl The family above is Rough James 43 m w Minner b. Eng Rough Frances M? f w 20 Keeps house b. England Rough Anibel 16 m w Miner b. Wisconsin Rough Benjamin 12 m w at school b. Michigan Rough James H 10 m w at school b. Michigan Rough John A 8 m w at school b. Michigan Rough Eliza 6 f w at school Suspect that James Rough wife may well have been born a Bray? I don't know if Ellen with Joseph Bray is his first wife and she died? (as he married in Iowa in 1873). Or perhaps a sister..?? My Joseph's Obituary argues with census as to his year of birth. One says 1840 another 1841. The Obituary says he was born one place, a daughter's birth record another. The 1880 familysearch.org census for Lincoln, Black Hawk, Iowa says he is b. Eng 1842. A Cousin sent me the following information Barb, The family next to Joseph Bray here is a James Rough. There is a Declaration of Intent for a James Rough in Keweenaw Co. MI on 2 Dec 1874. There is also a Joseph Bray listed for 9 March 1867. For Joseph it has Pg. 6-130. I think we've checked out this Joseph before and the date could very well be your Joseph. There was also a William H. Bray 29 Feb. 1868. I suspect that the Brays listed in this household Ishpeming, Marquette, Michigan FHLF 1254594 NA Film Number T9-0594 Page Number 340B 1880 census familysearch.org might be related. Perhaps Priscilla a Bray by birth..speculating due to similar names for children compared to Joseph Bray children. Charles Paynter Self M Male W 38 Eng Engineer b Eng parents b. England Priscilla Paynter Wife M Female W 38 b Eng pb. Eng Katie Paynter dau s female w 16 Eng at school Bessie Paynter dau femal w 14 b. MI at school Minnie Paynter dau s female w 12 b. MI Lily Paynter dau s female w 8 b. MI at scholl (sic Rosa Paynter dau s female w 6 b. MI Clara Paynter dau s female w 4 b. MI Edith Paynter dau s female w 1 b. MI Richard Bray Other wd male w 35 Eng Miner pb. Eng Richard Bray other s male w 16 b. Eng Miner James Bray Other s male w 14 Eng Laborer pb Eng John Conlin other s male w 33 IRE Laborer Pb IRE George Bloomfield other s male w 28 b. Eng Miner pb. Eng Charles Barkell other s maile w 25 b. Eng Miner pb. Eng James Floyd other s male w 29 b. Eng Miner pb Eng George Edwards other m male w 40 b Eng Miner pb Eng How do I go about seeing what is on that declaration of intent? Hope that someone on the list recognizes some of these names so that we can compare notes. Here are the names I found on the Marquette County Naturalization records: Name Volume Folder Page Bray Ambrose V8 402 Bray Anna B22 2 4689 Bray Cecil B5 2 409 Bray Cecil V29 213 Bray Charles V11 133 Bray Edwin V9 34 Bray James B22 2 4694 Bray James V8 288 Bray James V11 423 Bray John B17 1 380 Bray John V8 423 Bray John V8 600 Bray John V11 422 Bray Joseph V8 304 Bray Joseph V11 555 Bray Richard G. V8 156 Bray William V10 219 Bray Zackariah V8 475 Bray Zazariah V8 475 Paynter John V8 512 Paynter William V8 438 Looks to me like maybe the Bray names in V8 might be connected, especially with the Paynter names also in V8. Regards and thanks, Barb Drummer Iowa

We maintain the Michigan Marriage Index Database that has over 430,000 records of marriages that took place in Michigan. As part of our database we record the email address of researchers that have an interest in the various records. We have many records that have email address that are no long valid for one reason or another. One example is the shutting down of "@home.com". We have attempted to obtain accurate email address for those that are no longer valid, but, this has caused an expression of concern for many subscribers to the various mailing lists as they feel that we are overloading the system. We will no longer attempt to obtain correct email addresses. IF ANYONE HAS PROVIDED US WITH EMAIL ADDRESSES TO ATTACH TO THE MARRIAGE RECORDS AND HAVE CHANGED YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS PLEASE SEND US A MESSAGE THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE "OLD" AND "NEW" EMAIL ADDRESS. With several thousand email addresses in the database we cannot check everyones email so please only send us a message if you have had a change.  Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/

We maintain the Michigan Marriage Index Database that has over 430,000 records of marriages that took place in Michigan. As part of our database we record the email address of researchers that have an interest in the various records. We have many records that have email address that are no long valid for one reason or another. One example is the shutting down of "@home.com". We have attempted to obtain accurate email address for those that are no longer valid, but, this has caused an expression of concern for many subscribers to the various mailing lists as they feel that we are overloading the system. We will no longer attempt to obtain correct email addresses. IF ANYONE HAS PROVIDED US WITH EMAIL ADDRESSES TO ATTACH TO THE MARRIAGE RECORDS AND HAVE CHANGED YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS PLEASE SEND US A MESSAGE THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE "OLD" AND "NEW" EMAIL ADDRESS. With several thousand email addresses in the database we cannot check everyones email so please only send us a message if you have had a change.  Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/ ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/mfhn_maps/1904maps/db_paging.asp?page=1&order=County If you have been looking for a town/village and cant find in now, try this for michigan. by county.. with map links.. a nice site. keep a memory of the link. valentine

Subject: monument symbols - plus... howtos http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/flaghold/flaghold.htm was cruising around and saw this marvelous collective.. if you are a cemetery walker, please do check this out.. looking for acronyms found on your monuments.this is a place to start. graphics and history.. like I said a wonderful collective and worth clipping...

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I have to say I've run into the same trail with naturalizations in Marquette. My 3xgreat grand father was there for about a decade during which timeframe a Declaration of Intent was filed but there are no Naturalization papers that I have been able to get my hands on. Dianna

Chris, Are you near an LDS Family History Center? http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Enter Marquette Michigan and there are films to help you out with this. I've used those myself, as my ancestors were from Ishpeming. Good luck! Tracey/Boston -----Original Message----- From: Mike & Chris [mailto:mjcckc@zbzoom.net] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:39 AM To: MIMARQUE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIMARQUE] Naturalization in Marquette Co. Hello, Would someone please give me the contact information (mailing address/ tel.) for the office that would hold Declaration of Intent papers? I have a date and name so it should be a fairly straightforward request. Thanks, Chris Kale Corcoran ==== MIMARQUE Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

For what it is worth: I have never been able to locate naturalization records. I can find declaration of intent, but never the actual papers. My great grandfather lived in the same place from the time he came from Germany until he died. My parents still live there. We can find the Declaration but nothing else. My great grandfather voted in every election. It is a small community and no one ever questioned his right. He even held office in the township. Very respectable member of the community. The nearest we can come up with is that once these persons filed there intent, they must have thought that was the end of the process. Anyone else run into this situation? We just cannot find the papers. I also believe that the naturalization papers are now in the state archives. gypsy -----Original Message----- From: Mike & Chris [mailto:mjcckc@zbzoom.net] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:50 AM To: MIMARQUE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIMARQUE] Naturalization Timeline Generally how long between the processing of Declaration of Intent to actual Naturalization? My great-grandfather filed for Declaration papers in November 1882 in Ishpeming but by 1887 had moved to Chicago. Would it be more likely that he would have Naturalized before leaving Ishpeming, I wonder? Any thoughts appreciated. Chris Kale Corcoran NORMAN, OLSON, PETERSON, SWENSSON in Ishpeming 1870's & 1880's ==== MIMARQUE Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Generally how long between the processing of Declaration of Intent to actual Naturalization? My great-grandfather filed for Declaration papers in November 1882 in Ishpeming but by 1887 had moved to Chicago. Would it be more likely that he would have Naturalized before leaving Ishpeming, I wonder? Any thoughts appreciated. Chris Kale Corcoran NORMAN, OLSON, PETERSON, SWENSSON in Ishpeming 1870's & 1880's