This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/4318/JGB.2ACI/308.307.1 Message Board Post: I am Sapien from El Paso, TX. My father is Jose Chavez Sapien from Canutillo, Texas (El Paso, County). His father was Florencio Sapien who was a fair-skinned, blue-eyed lady's man. I am informed that he was from Spain and was part Italian, Irish(?), maybe even French. He had been in Mexico and came to the US. All this was told to me because I was born after he died. My relatives have been dying and the information I have acquired has been sporadic. I am very much interested in finding out how our family acquired the name SAPIEN (which means WISE). In response to the name being German, I am sure that our relatives came from Europe, somewhere, and quite possibly moved about and lived in various European communities. My belief is that our relatives boarded a ship sometime back and came to Mexico when the Europeans came before the French Revolution (in Mexico). My grandmother on my mother's side (Nunez-Vigil) stated that her grandmother was a full-blooded French woman who married a full-blooded Indian (never found out what type) that wore loin cloths when the Europeans abounded in Mexico. My father's sister, Aunt Mary Sapien Tarango, stated that her father (my grandfather Florencio Sapien) came from Mexico. We need to get all our info together and may find out that the Sapiens (not very large) might all be related!!!!! Anyone with any info regarding my grandfather is requested to contact me!