This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/166.225.3.2.2.1 Message Board Post: I do know of an Etta WISE born 1865 that married a Thomas H. CROMER and they had a child named Ethel June CROMER born 1892. That's the only Etta that I know of tied to this family. His brother, William Harrison CROMER (1859-1937) married Elizabeth A. GROSVENOR (about 1857-after 1937) and they moved to Manistee, MI. They had children named Floyd, Grace, Elizabeth and Clyde all born about 1892-1890. The CROMERS were originally from Miami County, OH but moved, later, to Clinton TWP, Shelby County, OH and the GROSVENORS were from Shelby County, OH. Sorry, I could not give you more information....