Am a McCary and Weaver surname descendant who helped settle Brown Township starting in1869 when they arrived from Williamsburg area of Dundas County, Ontario. Many times have walked to Chief and the Lake. Enjoyed your description and history of this ghost villiage of long ago. Chief was about two miles north and one-half mile west of the Robert A. McCary 40 acre farm on Archer Rd. section 11, Brown TWP. This is what Info: I have. "CHIEF LAKE: a village in Brown Township with a post office since 20 December 1881, when Jacob Laisey became it's first Postmaster. Its station on the M. and N.E. Railroad was named Chief Lake; the village is 1/2 mile east. 1910 population 100. Railroad name 'Chief'. 1917 pop. 170. E. McCurdy, Postmaster; E.L. Reynolds station agent. Had 2 blacksmith shops; 2 general stores; meat market; millinery shop; hotel and livery; creamery; dairy store; pickle station; 2 sawmills; confectionery; feed and cider mill. Ed Kinny was listed as a "Dentist and Oculist". Info: from a book in the Library in City of Manistee. Doug Spencer - 'The Family Digger' ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: "CLAUDE FLORY" <claudeflory@sbcglobal.net> To: <MIMANIST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: [[MIMANIST]] Experiences of Margie Thompson Silven > Margie Thompson Silven is a 2nd cousin, twice removed of mine. The following was taken from the book "Flory History" and is a transcription of her experiences as told by Margie in 1979 at age 88 years of age. Some of the more personal family information has been removed. > Claude Flory > > I was born in Chief Lake, Michigan. Chief Lake was not large enought to be called a town. There was a general store, blacksmith's ship and a post office. The storekeeper traded goods for butter and eggs. Manistee was about 18 miles away. The folks around Chief Lake sold butter, eggs and honey in Manistee in the summer. I understand that Manistee is now a city. Ludington was a resort place. Every summer several hundred vacationers would show up at Epwort Heights in Ludington. Each family had a cabin, and the business people loved these summer visitors. Chief Lake was a farming center. There was also a little bit of logging. Tannersville was a town five miles from Chief Lake, and that is where we went to school. In the winter time we could go to school on the hard crust which formed on top of the snow. There was a big sawmill in Tannerville. It was called the Keyser Mill. The school was of the one room variety with about 40 children of all different ages taught! > by one teacher. About 500 Finnish people moved to Chief Lake and bought land. We went to visit many of the Finns. They invited us all the time, because they were very anxious to learn English. We received a lot of invitations. The Finns had their own town, named Keleva. It is still on the map, as is Manistee. Our farm was three miles from Chief Lake and eight from Kaleva. When I was nine years old we moved to Manistee. Jerome had married and he took the farm over. He was my brother. Jerome was the last one to live on the farm. My brother Frank was the first one to go to the far west. He went to Orting, near Puyallup, Washington, then Alex went next. I told you about the general store in Chief Lake, well, I remember the name of the store keeper. It was Moen, his wife always wore a sailor's hat, and every one said, it was because she had horns, and did not want anyone to see them. My grandmother was Julia Grime Fleury. I believe she was about 14 years old when! > she came from France. She used to visit us and stay three months of the year. She, like other visitors, would get off the train right at our house. Grandmother was stylish and always had the latest in clothes. She had a very small waist line and was very proud of it. My brother Frank would help her tightly lace and button her into her clothes, and because that made her waist look even smaller. She smoked a pipe, and men loved to talk with her, I guess she was a pretty good conversationalist. Grandmother always had money. Her folks brought it from France. Her parents bought a farm in the United States as soon as they arrived, and paid cash for it. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BOUCHETTE WILSON KATEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/672.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Toni! The only information I have on Alfred BOUCHETTE is a marriage notice in the 'St. Marys Journal Argus Newspaper Index' from St. Marys, Ontario, Canada. BOUCHETTE, Alfred Manistee M. Jan 2,1884 WILSON, Annie Victoria St. Marys A Jan 17,1884 and >From the St. Marys Argus, Thursday, January 17, 1884, p3 BOUCHETTE - WILSON - At Manistee, Mich., on the 2nd inst. at the residence of Mr. T.H.Katen, brother-in-law of the bride, Mr. Alfred Bouchette of Manistee, to Annie Victoria, daughter of the late Joseph Wilson, of St. Marys. If you run into any information about these individuals in your research, would you please contact me? Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/672.1 Message Board Post: I am interested in the Bouchette name. I have an obituary where it list one of my family as being Mrs. CM Bouchette. I have been unable to locate a marriage record in Manistee, so therefor do not know the first name of Mr. Bouchette. Any help is needed Toni researching Black, Krueger and connecting families

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Black, Krueger, Hernon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/619.1 Message Board Post: Elaine, I discovered your post in search of Caroline Margaret Black. She is the sister to my great grandfather, I have very little information. Any help you may have would also be greatly appreciated. Toni

Margie Thompson Silven is a 2nd cousin, twice removed of mine. The following was taken from the book "Flory History" and is a transcription of her experiences as told by Margie in 1979 at age 88 years of age. Some of the more personal family information has been removed. Claude Flory I was born in Chief Lake, Michigan. Chief Lake was not large enought to be called a town. There was a general store, blacksmith's ship and a post office. The storekeeper traded goods for butter and eggs. Manistee was about 18 miles away. The folks around Chief Lake sold butter, eggs and honey in Manistee in the summer. I understand that Manistee is now a city. Ludington was a resort place. Every summer several hundred vacationers would show up at Epwort Heights in Ludington. Each family had a cabin, and the business people loved these summer visitors. Chief Lake was a farming center. There was also a little bit of logging. Tannersville was a town five miles from Chief Lake, and that is where we went to school. In the winter time we could go to school on the hard crust which formed on top of the snow. There was a big sawmill in Tannerville. It was called the Keyser Mill. The school was of the one room variety with about 40 children of all different ages taught! by one teacher. About 500 Finnish people moved to Chief Lake and bought land. We went to visit many of the Finns. They invited us all the time, because they were very anxious to learn English. We received a lot of invitations. The Finns had their own town, named Keleva. It is still on the map, as is Manistee. Our farm was three miles from Chief Lake and eight from Kaleva. When I was nine years old we moved to Manistee. Jerome had married and he took the farm over. He was my brother. Jerome was the last one to live on the farm. My brother Frank was the first one to go to the far west. He went to Orting, near Puyallup, Washington, then Alex went next. I told you about the general store in Chief Lake, well, I remember the name of the store keeper. It was Moen, his wife always wore a sailor's hat, and every one said, it was because she had horns, and did not want anyone to see them. My grandmother was Julia Grime Fleury. I believe she was about 14 years old when! she came from France. She used to visit us and stay three months of the year. She, like other visitors, would get off the train right at our house. Grandmother was stylish and always had the latest in clothes. She had a very small waist line and was very proud of it. My brother Frank would help her tightly lace and button her into her clothes, and because that made her waist look even smaller. She smoked a pipe, and men loved to talk with her, I guess she was a pretty good conversationalist. Grandmother always had money. Her folks brought it from France. Her parents bought a farm in the United States as soon as they arrived, and paid cash for it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/2.4.93.128.1.1 Message Board Post: Betsy Emeline Wernskjold is the back row on the right.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/2.4.93.128.1 Message Board Post: I have the Norwegian Lutheran Church Confirmation Record of Manistee 13 Oct 1901 that lists: Lina Olson, Alma Eline Gotfredson, Minnis Sofie Sorenson, Betsy Emeline Wernskjold, Clara Wilhelmine Johnson, Hulda Swanson, and Alma Christine Johnson. It also lists the parents as Pedar and Marthea Olson, Nils and Martine Gotfredson, Knut and Johanne Sorcuson, Hans and Hulda Wernskjold, Martin and Josefine Johnson and Carl P and Anne S Johnson. I also have a picture of these girls and the Pastor Rev O H Stenson. Problem is I don't know which girl is who. The church was on Cypress and Fourth Streets and painted a nice blue when we were there in 1999. Do you think the Historical museum would have a clue of these people?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Messmer, Schumann Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/583.2 Message Board Post: I am researching to find the family of Mary R. Messmer-Schumann. She was born about 1863, Burlington, Des Moines County, Iowa. According to her half-brother's obituary she is living in Manistee, Michigan as of 8/31/1958. Her sister, Emma Messmer-Schumann was also living in Manistee, but she died 11/1934. Any help locatng this family is appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Messmer, Schumann Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/583.1 Message Board Post: Kate Messmer-Schumann died in November of 1934. I am looking to reunite her with her family in Iowa. Kate was born about 1857 in Burlington, Des Moines County, Iowa. She marries a Schumann and died in Manistee, Michigan according to her half-sister's obituary. Any help locating this family is appreciated. She also has a sister, Mary R. Messmer that also marries a Schumann and is living in Manistee 8/1958.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Majchrzak, Majszak, Bernacky, Jacek, Middleton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/240.258.1 Message Board Post: Do you have any information on Ludwik (Louis) Majchrzak and his wife Jadwigha (Hedwig) Sarnowski of Detroit, Michigan? They had a daughter, Verna (Veronica) Majszak who was baptized at St. Casimir's Church in Detroit, Michigan. She married Joseph Jacek and then Louis Bernacky, and lived in Detroit and Bay City, Michigan.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/683.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Thomas. I had the 2 Census references but I have no conclusive proof that Margaret Hogan and Wing are the same person. It was only a passing reference by a cousin that gave me the Wing name to try. I cant find Patrick Hogans death(Manistee1871) in the site you gave nor did I see Hogan/Wing in the marriage records. Did I miss them?? I do all my research on-line and appreciate your input and the new sites for me to check. Again I really appreciate your response. Janet C.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/683.1 Message Board Post: Try these - 1870 Michigan Census = (Free, indexed and searchable) http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/ 1880 US Census – The Mormon Church Files LDS (Free, indexed and searchable) Look for 1880 US Census on the left side of screen http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp Michigan Genealogical Death Indexing System (Free and searchable) http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/gendisx/search2.htm State of Michigan Marriage/Birth/Divorce Requests http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/vital_records/requests Jack & Marianne Dibean – Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links = FREE http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/dibean_county.html In 1870 Margaret is 10. For 1880 all other info matches up. She is 20 and married to T. Wing. Parents POB matches.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/686.1 Message Board Post: In 1880 he was a hotel keeper. 1880 US Census – The Mormon Church Files LDS (Free, indexed and searchable) Look for 1880 US Census on the left side of screen http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/685.1 Message Board Post: Try Manistee twp.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/687.1 Message Board Post: Try this - http://www.interment.net/data/us/mi/manistee/mtcarmel/carmel.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/691 Message Board Post: Hi all, Just wanted to give an update on my research tools: Marriage Search Engines http://www.genlookups.com/marriages/ Obituary Links Page http://www.obitlinkspage.com Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com Obituary Grabbag http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/obit-grabbag.htm (HUGE obituary database) Surname Search Utility http://www.obitlinkspage.com/surnames/ GenLookups http://www.genlookups.com Historical & Genealogical Societies http://www.obitlinkspage.com/hs/ Hope these bookmarks help your research, Bill

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knapp, Moore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/635.1 Message Board Post: Can you tell me more about Lucy Knapp, daughter of Elihu? Do you know who her mother was? An Elihu Knapp who married Keziah Norton was my ggg grandfather, but I don't have this daughter among his many marriages. Thank you. Leah

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Griffes, Kortering, Beatty, McDonald, Jones, Walling, Doane, Snow, Hopkins, Teeters, Webb, Barabu, Haggerty, Gugins, Simmons, willey, Moore, Bonney, Rogers, Hudson, Parris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JGB.2ACI/690 Message Board Post: I am trying to locate a family who lived in Manistee County and had the last name of "HOUSE." Supposedly, Mrs. House (She might have been Marguerite) was closely related to Orville and Wilbur Wright. My grandmother stayed in their home and was their housekeeper and watched their children. My grandmother, Edith (Beatty) McDonald, was born in 1889 and she was married in 1909 in Copemish, Cleon Twp., Manistee County, MI. Therefore, she would have worked for the House family the couple of years before her marriage. Since my grandmother was born in Claybanks, Oceana County, the HOUSE family might not have lived in Manistee County, but my late mother told me that they lived in Manistee.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Scott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JGB.2ACI/689 Message Board Post: Could someone please tell me where Springdale was located in 1870? I've found it on the 1880 Census, but could not locate it on the 1870. I'm looking for a family named Scott who had a son George Charles Scott, born Feb 14, 1872 in Springdale. There was also a daughter, Sarah Frances Scott, born in 1875 (don't know where). I've looked on the 1880 Census in Springdale for them, but couldn't find them. These children were later adopted by a family named Shepherd. Any help would be appreciated. Leslie

The first two links didnt work. Here are the correct links from yesterdays posts. US & State County Census Maps www.genealogyinc.com/maps/uscm.htm US & State County Formation Maps www.genealogyinc.com/maps/uscf.htm