This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IGB.2ACI/96.98.1 Message Board Post: Dear Donald, There's an Erin Presbyterian Church, 30000 Gratiot in Roseville (586) 777-9200 Heritage Presbyterian Church 23415 Jefferson St. Clair Shores (586) 779-0730 Lake Shore Presbyterian Church 27801 Jefferson St. Clair Shores, (586) 777-8533 If neither one of these are the church you're looking for maybe they could help you locate what you need. I live close to Roseville, so if I can be of any help, let me know. Annette

Mount Clemens Public Library is pleased to announce the availability of two new searches in the Mount Clemens City Directory Master Index. In addition to the surname/business name search, we now offer an employer search and a street name search. The employer name search may be helpful in compiling a list of all local employees of a particular business during the time period covered by the index. It will also demonstrate the year in which a given individual is first listed as an employee of the business, and the last year in which the person is listed as an employee (within the current limits of the database coverage). Likewise, the street index can demonstrate when a particular address number appears or disappears from a street, or when a particular individual appears at a given address, or disappears from a given address (again, within the current limits of the database coverage). To use these new searches, visit the Mount Clemens City Directory Master Index page at http://offserv.libcoop.net/mtc/MCDirectory.asp then scroll to the bottom of the page for the links to the Employer Search and Street Search. Happy hunting! Deborah Larsen Mount Clemens Public Library http://www.libcoop.net/mountclemens

URGENT REQUEST!: Now that we are over the holidays, This years is our 350th Anniversary of the landing of the Swartwout family in North America. The name has many variations such as Swarthout, Swartout, Swartwood, Swathwood, Swarthwood etc. We need help in gather lines, pictures, articles, wills, what ever you have stashed in your attic. We would really appreciated it if you shared with us what you had, there a literally thousands of us here looking for our roots, looking for connections. For our 350th Anniversary we need to updated our list of folks out there that are descendants somewhere along the line of any of those variations. We also have a family newsletter that cost only $5.00 per year, a real bargain. Just send it your mailing address. Every day I get e-mail asking me for help. Up here in Canada, there were two brothers that had huge families, all the remains of their descendants are the female sides. All the male went back to the States. I'm am the maintainer of "The Updated Swartwout Chronicles" People submit their lines-ged-coms etc. and I just drop them into the data base. It is everyone's database. Each person is responsible for their own submissions. It is not copyrighted. Kathy kathyhoeldke@sympatico.ca ldyk@hotmail.ca

As you can see from the signature at the end of this message, this is from Debbie Larson. Debbie, I have put this address [mcpl@libcoop.net] on the accept list now. You can send from this one or your regular address. Your MiMacomb ListManager, -- Mary D... _____________________________________________________________________ ICQ - 3081831 mary.daily@bigfoot.com http://www.idir.net/~medaily/ _____________________________________________________________________ Let us also pray for wisdom... for the grace of God that we do not become the evil that we abhor. -- Reverend Nathan Baxter, September 14, 2001 _____________________________________________________________________ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Macomb WWI Draft Registration Index Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:57:55 -0700 From: MCPL <mcpl@libcoop.net> To: MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com To those researchers who are reporting "errors" in the Macomb WWI Draft Registration Index ( http://offserv.libcoop.net/mtc/draftindex.asp ): The information on the draft registration cards has been transcribed to the index EXACTLY as it appears on original card. This means that variations of names, spellings, and dates of birth will occur in the index. We will not be "correcting" or altering this information in any way, as it would be irresponsible custodianship of the historic record to change its original form. We understand that some of you may find a birth date or other information that does not jibe with your personal family records or other documents you may have in your possession. This phenomenon is typical of genealogical research; we often find records with conflicting or variant information. That is part of the research process. With respect to draft and military records in particular, it is not unusual to see a birth date "fudged" by a year; often the person was lying about his age to get in, or lying to stay out! For the greatest success in using our index, we recommend that you search all variant spellings/misspellings of the surname you seek, and evaluate all information you find in the index in light of other family records you may hold. Deborah Larsen Mount Clemens Public Library http://www.libcoop.net/mountclemens -- -- Mary D... _____________________________________________________________________ ICQ - 3081831 mary.daily@bigfoot.com http://www.idir.net/~medaily/ _____________________________________________________________________ Let us also pray for wisdom... for the grace of God that we do not become the evil that we abhor. -- Reverend Nathan Baxter, September 14, 2001 _____________________________________________________________________

Dear Listers, The genealogy room of Mount Clemens Public Library will close for remodeling and expansion as of Monday, January 14, 2002. We do not have a precise reopening date at this time, but we expect the project to take approximately 2 weeks. The reopening of the genealogy collection will be announced on this list; however, you are welcome to telephone the library in advance of any visit for an update on the progress of the construction. The new-and-improved genealogy room will offer more seating, shelving space to accommodate a larger collection, and an additional microforms reader, among other things. Thank you for your patience and understanding during this time of transition. We regret any inconvenience this work may cause to your research schedules. Deborah Larsen Mount Clemens Public Library http://www.libcoop.net/mountclemens

Hello, I am hoping to trace some living descendants of my Dad's cousin Harry/Henry BUTTERWORTH who lived in Detroit. Harry Butterworth was born on 16 April 1897 in Cleveland, Ohio. His parents were Charlie Butterworth and Dora Flachmeyer who got married on 10 July 1895 in Cuyahoga County. Harry was an only child from this marriage and his father remarried in Cleveland on 21 May 1913 to Bessie H Weyer. I have traced the family from Charlie's second marriage with the help of an elderly relative here in England and now I want to trace the family from the first marriage. Harry Butterworth married a girl called Effie about 1917 in Detroit, and I have a photo-postcard of them in 1917 with the address of "629 Michigan, Detroit, Mich." (another story says Harry's wife's name was Marie-lou and they had a daughter called Louise, but I have no evidence of this). From the 1910 census, I have the following: Cuyahoga County, Ohio Cleveland TWP BUTTERWORTH Charles 36 Eng Eng Eng 1892 Contractor Stone Dorthy 35 Oh Ger? Ger? Harry C. 13 Oh Eng OH If anyone has any connections to this family or can give me any advice, I would be most grateful. Regards, Caroline Drummond, in West Sussex, England. **************************************************************************** *********************************************** Watch out for VIRUSES!!!! Don't open any attachments, unless you have been told you are being sent one. I will always tell you if I am sending one and I will tell you what it is. Any other attachment could be a virus. My system is scanned regularly for viruses.

Mount Clemens Public Library is pleased to announce a new online database of interest to historians and genealogists. The World War I Draft Registration Index for Macomb County, Michigan has been compiled by librarian Kristy Taormina from National Archives microfilm of 7,243 draft registration cards for Macomb County. The index includes information on men of Macomb County who were between ages 18-45 during World War I, even if they never served in the military. The index is available online at: http://offserv.libcoop.net/mtc/draftindex.asp The site includes a more detailed explanation of the nature of the records, as well as an image of a sample draft registration card. Happy hunting! Deborah Larsen Mount Clemens Public Library http://www.libcoop.net/mountclemens

Thanks for looking. It's not recorded in Lapeer county either. >>> "Ann Faulkner" <faulknea@libcoop.net> 01/07/02 06:21PM >>> John, Her death was not recorded in Macomb Co. I would check Lapeer Co as her parents were residing in Almont Twp. in 1900. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Doppke" <John.Doppke@trw.com> To: <MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: [MiMacomb] Death records (Braidwood) > Does anyone have access to an index to death records? I'm looking for Alice Braidwood, d. 1909. Not sure which county it was recorded in. > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RESEARCHING LEES, MATHEWSON, MCDONALD/MACDONALD, THOM, PETRIE-SMITH, FIFE/FYFE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/166 Message Board Post: Searching for information on a David FYFE son of "Lizzie" LEES (Isabell b.1882 or Elizabeth b.1874) in Forfar Angus Scotland. She immigrated to the Detroit Michigan area. David FYFE's wife worked at Hudson's Department Store in Detroit and was involved and credited with the invention of the bra in bathing suit. Any info on this line. Please get in touch. RESEARCHING LEES, MATHEWSON, MCDONALD/MACDONALD, THOM, PETRIE-SMITH, FIFE/FYFE.

There are 2 Braidwood names in the Imlay City phone book For those of you that don't know the area Imlay City is a few miles north of Almont in Lapeer County. Her death was not recorded in Macomb Co. I would check Lapeer Co as her parents were residing in Almont Twp. in 1900. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Doppke" <John.Doppke@trw.com> To: <MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: [MiMacomb] Death records (Braidwood) Does anyone have access to an index to death records? I'm looking for Alice Braidwood, d. 1909. Not sure which county it was recorded in. > ==== MIMACOMB Mailing List ==== > Visit the Macomb County, MI GenWeb site! ~~New Address~~ > http://www.online-isp.com/~maggie/macomb/ ~~Update Your Bookmarks~~ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

John, Her death was not recorded in Macomb Co. I would check Lapeer Co as her parents were residing in Almont Twp. in 1900. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Doppke" <John.Doppke@trw.com> To: <MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: [MiMacomb] Death records (Braidwood) > Does anyone have access to an index to death records? I'm looking for Alice Braidwood, d. 1909. Not sure which county it was recorded in. > >

Does anyone have access to an index to death records? I'm looking for Alice Braidwood, d. 1909. Not sure which county it was recorded in.

Clinton Grove Cemetery, Clinton Twp, Section G, lot 58 husband & father, Hans C Heiden 1905 - Sept 10 1955 wife & mother, Pearl M Miller (Heiden) 1908 - Nov 4 1960 I look information up about Hans Carl Heinrich Ludwig Heiden, who was born on 3 June 1905 in Glashagen, Mecklenburg Schwerin. He emigrated on 13 July 1923 with the ship Thuringia to America (arrival New York 25 July 1923). According to passenger list it wanted to its uncle August Dowe, Mt. Clemens, Mich. Farm. In the Internet I found the death Hans Heiden of a 1955 in Clinton Township, Macomb County. The assumption is obvious, which concerns here it the mentioned, there also the birth year „1905“ corresponds. Also I know, Hans twice marries been its. Hans was the brother of my grandfather. Who can give me to these information tips? Who knew family Heiden? To which addresses could I turn around more information to get? > > Thanks and many greetings from Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania > Grit

Macomb Co Marriages, Vol.H, p.100. Charles Reiter 21 b Lenox res Richmond, farmer, s/o Robert Reiter & Elizabeth Sumer, 0 prev mr, to Lydia Neimann 20 b & res Lenox, d/o William Nieman & Phoebe Frederick, 0 prev mr, md Feb 4 1910 Lenox Twp by E F Hildebrand, Pastor ME Church; wit: Herbert Niemann of Richmond & Lucy Cain of Pigeon, Mich. Mt Clemens Daily Leader, Feb 1 1929 Shot with a 12 gauge shotgun in the hands of his 17 year old, William, who had aimed at a rabbit, Charles Reiter, 40, a farmer, of near Ray Center, died in a local hospital at 10:30 o'clock this morning from loss of blood. Reiter and his son were returning home from a woods near where they had been felling trees at 4:10 o'clock yesterday afternoon. Young Reiter had taken a gun with him in order to shoot game if any were seen. On the way back his father kicked a brush heap and a rabbit jumped out. The boy shot and the contents of the gun discharged into his father's right leg between the knee and thigh. The boy ran to his home approximately a quarter of a mile away from the scene of the shooting and summoned his grandfather William Neiman screaming "I've shot dad, Hurry and get him." Neiman, who is 66 years old, and the boy's mother, took an automobile and drove through the fields to a place near a small mound where the wounded man lay. Unable to drive their car into the mound, the aged man and Reiter's wife attempted to carry the injured man to the automobile. He was too heavy for the man and woman so they dragged him for a distance of about ten feet to the car and loaded him in the vehicle. He was taken home and a physician called who gave Reiter first aid and sent him to St. Joseph's hospital here where he died today from loss of blood. County Coroner Duncan B Hubbard was called and after viewing the body and making an investigation announced that the shooting was accidental and an autopsy will not be necessary. The body was turned over to William Will, a mortician of New Haven. Funeral arrangements have not been made. The deceased man is a life-long resident of Macomb county. He was born near Ray Center October 9 1888, and has resided there ever since. He is survived by his widow Mrs. Lydia Reiter; three daughters; two sons; three sisters and two brothers. The children are: William Reiter, 17, Hilda 15; Edward 13; Frances 11; Edith 6 years old all at home. Mrs. Arthur Bauerman, Mrs. Harry Coats, sisters and Robert and David Reiter, brothers, all of Richmond also survive.

Mt Clemens Monitor, Aug 2 1912 Casper Schiller, an aged and respected citizen of Mt. Clemens, died Monday night, in his 83d year. The funeral was yesterday from St. Peter's church. Mr. Schiller was born in Germany. He came to America early in life and settled at Niagara Falls, on the Canadian side. Forty-eight years ago he came to Macomb county, settling in the township of Macomb, where he was a successful farmer. Seventeen years ago he came to Mt. Clemens to live at ease. He leaves two children, John Schiller and Mrs. Caroline Bantle.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IGB.2ACI/165 Message Board Post: I look information up about Hans Carl Heinrich Ludwig Heiden, who was born on 3 June 1905 in Glashagen, Mecklenburg Schwerin. He emigrated on 13 July 1923 with the ship Thuringia to America (arrival New York 25 July 1923). According to passenger list it wanted to its uncle August Dowe, Mt. Clemens, Mich. Farm. In the Internet I found the death Hans Heiden of a 1955 in Clinton Township, Macomb County. The assumption is obvious, which concerns here it the mentioned, there also the birth year „1905“ corresponds. Also I know, Hans twice marries been its. Hans was the brother of my grandfather. Who can give me to these information tips? Who knew family Heiden? To which addresses could I turn around more information to get? Thanks and many greetings from Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania Grit Are their ancestors from Mecklenburg, Vorpommern, Saxonia, Saxonia-Anhalt or Thuringia? Check they under www.ende-2000.de . Thanks.

If anyone has Irish Ancestors who migrated to the state of MICHIGAN there is a new list to discuss this area of research. To subscribe send an email to IRISH-MI-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe Do join us if this is an area you would be interested in. Best wishes, Christina

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/164 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on and descendants of Mattie Wilson. She was born Mattie Myers, in Oceana County, in about 1880, and married Wellington Withenbury in 1905. He died in 1912. Her sister's obit (1941) gives her last name as Wilson, and says she was living in Lansing. There is a Mattie Wilson in the SSDI who was born in 1879 and died in Warren in 1972. Is this her? Did she have any children? Thanks, Paul Neis

The text below my signature was taken from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter. Please read it and participate if you wish. Thanks, Your ListManager, -- Mary D... _____________________________________________________________________ ICQ - 3081831 mary.daily@bigfoot.com http://www.idir.net/~medaily/ _____________________________________________________________________ Let us also pray for wisdom... for the grace of God that we do not become the evil that we abhor. -- Reverend Nathan Baxter, September 14, 2001 _____________________________________________________________________ - "Kansas Remembers" Project The Kansas State Historical Society has started a statewide effort to document Kansans' responses to the events of Sept. 11 and subsequent events. This effort is called the "Kansas Remembers" Project. The society hopes the collections will include written remembrances, printed materials, photographs, and objects. The following is an excerpt from an announcement by the Kansas State Historical Society: As genealogists, we have a special obligation to our descendents to leave them information about what it was like to live in these historic times. I hope you will share information about this project with your readers. Additional information about the project, and a list of questions for reflection can be found on our website at: http://www.kshs.org/whatsnew/remembr.htm Individuals who are residents of Kansas, or who consider themselves native Kansans (even though they may be living elsewhere) are eligible to participate in this project. Persons who are not eligible to participate in the Kansas Remembers project may wish to consider organizing similar efforts in their own communities and states.

In the records compiled by the Washington Twp. Clerk, I find: Zimmerman Ross d 26 May 1920 Washington Twp, b 2 May 1863 Canada s/o Byard Ross & Jane Procunier both b Canada, wife Vesta Strait, buried Romeo Cemetery. A death record for Vesta does not appear in the Washington Twp. Clerks records. 1920 Census Washington Twp. 1st Precinct, SD 7, EN 89, Sh 12, Jan 14 1920 279/289 William C Inwood rents 53 Mich Eng Eng general farmer, Mary wife 48 immig 1876 Can Can Can, Ernest C son 28 wd Mich Mich Can farmer, Eugene R son 20 Mich Mich Can farmer, Robert C son 18 " " " farmer, Harold A son 15 " " ", Orlin D son 12 " " ", Lillian A g.dau 3-1/12 Mich Mich Mich, ARlene B g.dau 1 6/12 g.dau 280/290 Zimmerman Ross owns farm 59 Mich Mich Can, Vesta wife 50 Missouri Ohio Ind, Vesta L dau 16 Mich Mich Missouri, Byard S son 14 " " ", Ailene dau 12 " " ".