I agree that the volunteers deserve a big thank you. They have made it much easier to find those elusive individuals. I wouldn't want them to put in all these hours just to find that many of them were duplicates and didn't have to be entered. Correcting the problem would mean less work for them and easier searching for us. I just wanted to draw attention to the problem. Thanks, Loraine DiCerbo -----Original Message----- From: afaulkner4847@wideopenwest.com To: MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:35 PM Subject: [MIMACOMB] Macomb Co Obituary Index Problems At the bottom of the obituary page, it states that the database is maintained by Ann Faulkner and the Mount Clemens Public Library. I am going to request that the Library link my email address to my name, and if anyone finds any duplicates or other problems, please email me directly and I will try and take care of the problem. However, the corrections will not show up until the server is updated. There are many sources of error from the original indexing, data entry & importing from Excel into Access. We do have a checklist of papers that have been indexed. At times a paper has been reindexed because it was found that some obituaries were missing. Double checking the system is easier said than done, as you must go into Access, filter an individual surname, and then do a sort on the given name, and even then the dates are not sequential. There are many people that have worked many hours to make Macomb County information available, and they deserve a thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIMACOMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Hi Ann, I have Access 2000. I would be glad to do some proofing, if you need another person. Back in the 1950's I proofed telephone books. I think I could still do proofing. Ann Parsons Alamogordo, NM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Faulkner" <afaulkner4847@wideopenwest.com> To: <MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:35 PM Subject: [MIMACOMB] Macomb Co Obituary Index Problems > At the bottom of the obituary page, it states that the database is > maintained by Ann Faulkner and the Mount Clemens Public Library. I am > going to request that the Library link my email address to my name, and if > anyone finds any duplicates or other problems, please email me directly > and > I will try and take care of the problem. However, the corrections will > not > show up until the server is updated. > > There are many sources of error from the original indexing, data entry & > importing from Excel into Access. We do have a checklist of papers that > have > been indexed. At times a paper has been reindexed because it was found > that > some obituaries were missing. Double checking the system is easier said > than done, as you must go into Access, filter an individual surname, and > then do a sort on the given name, and even then the dates are not > sequential. > > There are many people that have worked many hours to make Macomb County > information available, and they deserve a thank you. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIMACOMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At the bottom of the obituary page, it states that the database is maintained by Ann Faulkner and the Mount Clemens Public Library. I am going to request that the Library link my email address to my name, and if anyone finds any duplicates or other problems, please email me directly and I will try and take care of the problem. However, the corrections will not show up until the server is updated. There are many sources of error from the original indexing, data entry & importing from Excel into Access. We do have a checklist of papers that have been indexed. At times a paper has been reindexed because it was found that some obituaries were missing. Double checking the system is easier said than done, as you must go into Access, filter an individual surname, and then do a sort on the given name, and even then the dates are not sequential. There are many people that have worked many hours to make Macomb County information available, and they deserve a thank you.

I'm not sure who this message should be addressed to, but it seems to me that many of the volunteers have been been doing extra work for no reason. There are a bunch of duplicate entries in the database. I put in a less common one of my surnames, Keidel, and out of 16 responses, four were duplicates: Keidel William Blay 84 DML 1961 MAY 29 Keidel William Blay 84 DML 1961 MAY 29 Keidel Earl F. Hart/Goldenbogen 61 MD 1969 MAY 21 Keidel Earl F Goldenbogen 61 MD 1969 MAY 21 Keidel Henry L. Blay/Hart b 1880 DML 1959 MAY 11 Keidel Henry L Blay/Hart 78 DML 1959 MAY 11 Keidel Jane 86 DL 1932 OCT 12 Keidel Jane 86 DL 1932 OCT 13 (could not find an obituary listed in the paper on this date) You may want to have your volunteers double-check the system, If an unusual name like Keidel can have four duplicates, what happens when a person enters a more common surname? a name like Miller or Smith can pull hundreds of records, and not only do we have to sort through them because it doesn't allow you to put in a first name with it (it always comes up as "No records returned. Try alternate spelling."), but we also have to sort through duplicate entries. It takes away the efficiency of trying to do a quick computer lookup. Please pass this message on to those in charge of the computerized database. I'm sure I speak for many who like to use your index, but find it hard to wade through so many results at times. Loraine DiCerbo French Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan Registrar Secretary -----Original Message----- From: larsend@libcoop.net To: MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [MIMACOMB] Macomb County Obituary Index update Dear Listers, Mount Clemens Public Library and the Macomb County Genealogy Group are pleased to announce an update to the Macomb County Obituary Index. More than 15,000 new entries have been added to the index through the efforts of the following volunteers: Karen Brewer, Ann Faulkner, Jolyene Fisher, Mary Freer, Pat Hendrickson, Sue Hieber, Carolyn Horton, Audrey Morton, Herb Savage and Kay Shaw. The index now contains 151,602 entries. The Macomb County, Michigan Obituary Index has been created through the volunteer efforts of the Macomb County Genealogy Group. Entries range from 1880 to the present from many Macomb County newspapers, with complete coverage of the Mount Clemens papers from 1951 through August 2006. Visit the index at: http://offserv.libcoop.net/mtc/obitindex.asp Thanks to all of the volunteers whose efforts make this index possible! Happy hunting! Deborah Larsen Mount Clemens Public Library 150 Cass Avenue | Mount Clemens MI 48043 (586) 469-6200 www.libcoop.net/mountclemens ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIMACOMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

I'm not sure who this message should be addressed to, but it seems to me that many of the volunteers have been been doing extra work for no reason. There are a bunch of duplicate entries in the database. I put in a less common one of my surnames, Keidel, and out of 16 responses, four were duplicates: Keidel William Blay 84 DML 1961 MAY 29 Keidel William Blay 84 DML 1961 MAY 29 Keidel Earl F. Hart/Goldenbogen 61 MD 1969 MAY 21 Keidel Earl F Goldenbogen 61 MD 1969 MAY 21 Keidel Henry L. Blay/Hart b 1880 DML 1959 MAY 11 Keidel Henry L Blay/Hart 78 DML 1959 MAY 11 Keidel Jane 86 DL 1932 OCT 12 Keidel Jane 86 DL 1932 OCT 13 (could not find an obituary listed in the paper on this date) You may want to have your volunteers double-check the system, If an unusual name like Keidel can have four duplicates, what happens when a person enters a more common surname? a name like Miller or Smith can pull hundreds of records, and not only do we have to sort through them because it doesn't allow you to put in a first name with it (it always comes up as "No records returned. Try alternate spelling."), but we also have to sort through duplicate entries. It takes away the efficiency of trying to do a quick computer lookup. Please pass this message on to those in charge of the computerized database. I'm sure I speak for many who like to use your index, but find it hard to wade through so many results at times. Loraine DiCerbo French Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan Registrar Secretary -----Original Message----- From: larsend@libcoop.net To: MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [MIMACOMB] Macomb County Obituary Index update Dear Listers, Mount Clemens Public Library and the Macomb County Genealogy Group are pleased to announce an update to the Macomb County Obituary Index. More than 15,000 new entries have been added to the index through the efforts of the following volunteers: Karen Brewer, Ann Faulkner, Jolyene Fisher, Mary Freer, Pat Hendrickson, Sue Hieber, Carolyn Horton, Audrey Morton, Herb Savage and Kay Shaw. The index now contains 151,602 entries. The Macomb County, Michigan Obituary Index has been created through the volunteer efforts of the Macomb County Genealogy Group. Entries range from 1880 to the present from many Macomb County newspapers, with complete coverage of the Mount Clemens papers from 1951 through August 2006. Visit the index at: http://offserv.libcoop.net/mtc/obitindex.asp Thanks to all of the volunteers whose efforts make this index possible! Happy hunting! Deborah Larsen Mount Clemens Public Library 150 Cass Avenue | Mount Clemens MI 48043 (586) 469-6200 www.libcoop.net/mountclemens ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIMACOMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Dear Listers, Mount Clemens Public Library and the Macomb County Genealogy Group are pleased to announce an update to the Macomb County Obituary Index. More than 15,000 new entries have been added to the index through the efforts of the following volunteers: Karen Brewer, Ann Faulkner, Jolyene Fisher, Mary Freer, Pat Hendrickson, Sue Hieber, Carolyn Horton, Audrey Morton, Herb Savage and Kay Shaw. The index now contains 151,602 entries. The Macomb County, Michigan Obituary Index has been created through the volunteer efforts of the Macomb County Genealogy Group. Entries range from 1880 to the present from many Macomb County newspapers, with complete coverage of the Mount Clemens papers from 1951 through August 2006. Visit the index at: http://offserv.libcoop.net/mtc/obitindex.asp Thanks to all of the volunteers whose efforts make this index possible! Happy hunting! Deborah Larsen Mount Clemens Public Library 150 Cass Avenue | Mount Clemens MI 48043 (586) 469-6200 www.libcoop.net/mountclemens

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/621 Message Board Post: Dear Sir or Madam; I am currently trying to search my grandmother's brother whose name is Fritz. He lived in Michigan City or Michigan and he sent some letters to my grandmother whose name is Eva in order to come to U.S.A from Turkey. He was pastor like 1940s and 1950s. His son is a steel factory owner. My grandmother whose first name is Eva (we don't sure about her name) was born in Suwalki, Konigsberg or Berlin like 1874s and went to Turkey with his husband. Any information can be related to your family?

The Alexander Macomb Chapter DAR will be hosting a free Genealogy Workshop in the lower level at the Mount Clemens Public Library on Saturday October 14, 2006 from 10 am - 1 pm Lineage research assistance and application filing is the main focus. However, anyone interested in learning to trace his or her roots is welcome. Please bring any useful data about your family such as: birth, death and marriage records, Bible records, land, probate, pension, census, cemetery, obituaries etc.

These are two entries from Familysearch.org which may [or may not] relate to the man for whom you're searching. There is somewhat more data at Familysearch--data that may help you decide whether either of these deaths are of interest to you. 11. Charles Henry Lincoln - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Death: 27 JUN 1907 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan 13. CHARLES HENRY Lincoln - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Death: 12 JAN 1908 A Yahoo search for the cemetery's address wasn't successful. On the other hand, at Findagrave.com there is a photo of the cemetery entrance sign and a map showing the cemetery location. Wishing you luck, Lorelei in California -----Original Message----- From: Ann Faulkner [mailto:afaulkner4847@wideopenwest.com] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 4:25 PM To: mimacomb@rootsweb.com; Bill & Tina; mdeanlincoln@aol.com Subject: Re: [MIMACOMB] willow grove cem, Armada--Charles Henry Lincoln Tina, You may need to post your answer to the Ancestry board, as I did not see it there when I just looked, and Mr. Lincoln may not be on the Macomb list. Both readings for Willow Grove give the date for Charles H as 1833-1909. According to the plat by Bernard Pearl, he is buried in Section A, lot 002, 6W. I have only been out there a couple of times so really can't give you directions, but A appears to be shaped like a teardrop and lot 2 is at the narrow end right next to the driveway. Hopefully this will help you find it, since the cemetery is pretty large. I also have a letter from him at the Library and have been trying to locate further information on Charles H. I do not think that he died here in Macomb Co. I checked the death records all the way from 1907 up to about 1932. Also, there is no probate. He has some conflicting data and if you could look at the stone it would be great. I just realized I have his email, so will send him a cc of this message. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "billandtina41" <billandtina41@netzero.net> To: <mimacomb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MIMACOMB] willow grove cemetery in Armada > If no one has contacted you, let me know and I will help. I drive past > there every day when I go to pick my son up from school. > > Tina > Ray Township, MI > http://community.webshots.com/user/claraspet > Grab your gun and put the beer on ice! It's Orange Barrel Season!!!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mdeanlincoln@aol.com> > To: <MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:09 AM > Subject: [MIMACOMB] willow grove cemetery in Armada > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/619 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> need a person who would accept $5 for gas to look in willow grove >> cemetery >> for Charles Henry Lincoln. I need verification of dates off his grave >> plate or office records address if the cemetery has one? sorry need only >> one volunteer at this time I live 62 miles away could you email me first >> so we can get the info to you as he was buried in 1907, 1909,or 1929. so >> the graveplate would be there if one exists. He was Dr. Charles Henry >> Lincoln who's children all lived in Richmond, MI. >> I have tried every source available to get date except a walk thru. >> Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/620 Message Board Post: Jesse died 22 February 1957 and is buried in Romeo Cemetery. His wife was Vera and his daughter was Fay. I am seeking a copy of his obit which was published 25 February 1957 in the Daily Monitor Leader. Would someone see if they can get a copy for me? Any and all assistance will be gratefully appreciated. Thank you, Linda

Tina, You may need to post your answer to the Ancestry board, as I did not see it there when I just looked, and Mr. Lincoln may not be on the Macomb list. Both readings for Willow Grove give the date for Charles H as 1833-1909. According to the plat by Bernard Pearl, he is buried in Section A, lot 002, 6W. I have only been out there a couple of times so really can't give you directions, but A appears to be shaped like a teardrop and lot 2 is at the narrow end right next to the driveway. Hopefully this will help you find it, since the cemetery is pretty large. I also have a letter from him at the Library and have been trying to locate further information on Charles H. I do not think that he died here in Macomb Co. I checked the death records all the way from 1907 up to about 1932. Also, there is no probate. He has some conflicting data and if you could look at the stone it would be great. I just realized I have his email, so will send him a cc of this message. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "billandtina41" <billandtina41@netzero.net> To: <mimacomb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MIMACOMB] willow grove cemetery in Armada > If no one has contacted you, let me know and I will help. I drive past > there every day when I go to pick my son up from school. > > Tina > Ray Township, MI > http://community.webshots.com/user/claraspet > Grab your gun and put the beer on ice! It's Orange Barrel Season!!!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mdeanlincoln@aol.com> > To: <MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:09 AM > Subject: [MIMACOMB] willow grove cemetery in Armada > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/619 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> need a person who would accept $5 for gas to look in willow grove >> cemetery >> for Charles Henry Lincoln. I need verification of dates off his grave >> plate or office records address if the cemetery has one? sorry need only >> one volunteer at this time I live 62 miles away could you email me first >> so we can get the info to you as he was buried in 1907, 1909,or 1929. so >> the graveplate would be there if one exists. He was Dr. Charles Henry >> Lincoln who's children all lived in Richmond, MI. >> I have tried every source available to get date except a walk thru. >> Thanks >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MIMACOMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIMACOMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/619.1.1 Message Board Post: I would love to write the cemetery and send a SASE but the macomb sites just give cross roads and directions? do you have the office address? sure would help me. I need to get his funeral card or interment info and also his obit.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IGB.2ACI/619.1 Message Board Post: Have U written the cemetery requesting this information? It's FREE info. Include a SAE. It helps.

If no one has contacted you, let me know and I will help. I drive past there every day when I go to pick my son up from school. Tina Ray Township, MI http://community.webshots.com/user/claraspet Grab your gun and put the beer on ice! It's Orange Barrel Season!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <mdeanlincoln@aol.com> To: <MIMACOMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: [MIMACOMB] willow grove cemetery in Armada > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/619 > > Message Board Post: > > need a person who would accept $5 for gas to look in willow grove cemetery > for Charles Henry Lincoln. I need verification of dates off his grave > plate or office records address if the cemetery has one? sorry need only > one volunteer at this time I live 62 miles away could you email me first > so we can get the info to you as he was buried in 1907, 1909,or 1929. so > the graveplate would be there if one exists. He was Dr. Charles Henry > Lincoln who's children all lived in Richmond, MI. > I have tried every source available to get date except a walk thru. Thanks > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIMACOMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/619 Message Board Post: need a person who would accept $5 for gas to look in willow grove cemetery for Charles Henry Lincoln. I need verification of dates off his grave plate or office records address if the cemetery has one? sorry need only one volunteer at this time I live 62 miles away could you email me first so we can get the info to you as he was buried in 1907, 1909,or 1929. so the graveplate would be there if one exists. He was Dr. Charles Henry Lincoln who's children all lived in Richmond, MI. I have tried every source available to get date except a walk thru. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HARMS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/618.2.1 Message Board Post: I have tried both; and every once in awhile I try each of them again. Hopefully someday I will find an ancestor of my Peter Johann F. Harms who has kept a family letter from Germany, and of course it will be in the "old German" dialect. Audrey

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/617.1.1 Message Board Post: I looking to see if she had a husband by the name of Nicolo Culcasi, but she might be widowed. Any help would be appreciated. James

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IGB.2ACI/617.1 Message Board Post: Is Culcasi her married or maiden name?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/618.2 Message Board Post: Unfortunately, there are not any extant state censuses for Macomb County. Have you searched the Ancestry immigration records or used the "Germans to America" book series?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IGB.2ACI/618.1 Message Board Post: Look at: http://www.macomb.lib.mi.us/mountclemens/ This is a great site for your research & should help. It has many things to search through. A Harms married into my wifes Stark relation. You may find them on the Plat maps too at this site. Good luck. Phil