Marna: Just looking at the death dates of your John's, and was curious, 1. John B: 1773 and died 1850 He lived 73 years. did it say of what he died? 2. John B: 1797, and died 1856 He only lived 59 years, what did he die from?of? Had 18 children? That could have done it, for sure. Just asking. Pat cw Can you give me your family outline? Or did you before? I can't find it. Thanks