This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mills Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jE1.2ACEB/2067.2107.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you have that they were married 8 22 1869 in Jasper, MO, USA.? I just checked and found this couple on my MISC MILLS file. Pat cw My MILLS research began in Dayton, Montgomery Co, Ohio and back to Westfield, Essex Co. NJ.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mills Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jE1.2ACEB/345.1 Message Board Post: Who was the spouse of Mary C MILLS? Also what was the name of her mother? What time frame are we talking?

Thank you, it may well be my one of my Hur Mills

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Michael Would you please scan and send these to me too. Thanks so much. Carolyn Mills Hughes > [Original Message] > From: <MAMILLSPI@aol.com> > To: <MILLS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 3/12/2006 7:07:37 PM > Subject: Re: [MILLS] Re: Mills > > As an FYI I have pictures of the site where the Cold Creek Meetinghouse was > located in Frederick County as well as the New Garden house in Winchester VA. > If you are interested I can send you those photos so You have an idea of the > what John and others experienced in the 1720s. > > Michael A Mills, CPI > RESOURCE REPORTING, Inc. > PROCESS SERVICE UNLIMITED OF MD, Inc. > > 30 Courthouse Square, Suite G3 > Rockville, Maryland 20850 > Direct 301.838.9200 Fax: 301.838.7095 > Email: MAMILLSPI@aol.com > > > ==== MILLS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for MILLS-L: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

In a message dated 3/16/2006 10:42:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, dt-mills@mailsnare.net writes: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Hi Dave Could you send it to me? Darlene Seattle, WA _darwin2bell@aol.com_ (mailto:darwin2bell@aol.com)

Thanks Dave could you please send it to me.Joy from Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dt-mills@mailsnare.net> To: <MILLS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MILLS] More information on John b ca 1688, Rachel Bates and Rebecca 1 and 2 > > Sorry, > Rod's table at the end of this note, had its format removed by the > rootsweb server. If anyone would like the table just drop me a note and > I'll send it to you direct. > Dave Mills > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave" <dt-mills@mailsnare.net> > To: <MILLS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:28 PM > Subject: [MILLS] More information on John b ca 1688, Rachel Bates and > Rebecca 1 and 2 > > > > ==== MILLS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the MILLS list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > MILLS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > MILLS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I don't believe my ancestor William Mills who married Salley Strutton in Wilkes Co., NC was Quaker. Family legend says Scots-Irish descent and his son was Baptist. But a Hur Mills married in Wilkes Co. around the same time as my Mills'. Do you know if this was your Quaker Hur Mills? Dave <dt-mills@mailsnare.net> wrote: Sorry, Rod's table at the end of this note, had its format removed by the rootsweb server. If anyone would like the table just drop me a note and I'll send it to you direct. Dave Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" To: Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: [MILLS] More information on John b ca 1688, Rachel Bates and Rebecca 1 and 2 ==== MILLS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the MILLS list, send the command "unsubscribe" to MILLS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or MILLS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Sorry, Rod's table at the end of this note, had its format removed by the rootsweb server. If anyone would like the table just drop me a note and I'll send it to you direct. Dave Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dt-mills@mailsnare.net> To: <MILLS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: [MILLS] More information on John b ca 1688, Rachel Bates and Rebecca 1 and 2

The following information is From Rod Mills the son of Paul Mills author of several Mills geneolgy books. This is to provide some excellent research facts! I apologize for the length, but I did not want remove any of his thoughts or conclusions. Rod, myself and several other researchers have been on this path for many years. For those looking for a William Mills, you may find this also find this letter of interest. The Early Quaker Mills Family From Rodney A. Mills I am writing this report to explain my findings about my early Quaker Mills ancestors. I have been researching this subject, sporadically, since 1970. My deceased father, Paul A. Mills, published several genealogical books on the Mills families; all of these books are now out of print but can be found in many libraries. I have found that much of the information in published Mills genealogies and reference books is erroneous or very questionable. This is unfortunate because the errors continue to be perpetuated each time a new book or genealogy is published. We all tend to rely too much on published information, without doing any confirmation research. Please note: I have used the numerical identification of (l) and (1-1) to differentiate two persons both named John Mills. This identification method was used by my father in his genealogy books. Actually, I do not agree that these particular persons were father and son, as I will explain below. I am attaching a reference list and several figures to help explain my conclusions. Figure 1 is a chart of my direct Mills ancestors as I now believe them to be. I believe the John Mills at the top of the chart was the immigrant from England. You may notice that this information is in disagreement with many published genealogies, including my father's books (Refs. 1-3). My father listed another John Mills (1) as the immigrant and also as the father of the John Mills (I -1), whom I designate as the immigrant. (There are just too many Johns, why could not they have chosen some other first names?) The death of a John Mills (1) in Philadelphia in 1704/5 is listed by Hinshaw (Ref 4, pg 396 ) but there is nothing to connect him to John Mills (1-1). Further, Hinshaw lists on the same page the death in 1759 of a Sarah Mills, but there is nothing to indicate she was the wife of John Mills (1 or had the maiden name of Harrold. In fact, the widely separated death dates make it a little unlikely that John Mills (1) and Sarah Mills were husband and wife. It is also improbable that Sarah was the mother of John Mills (1-1), who seems to have been born ca 1688. If Sarah were the mother of John Mills (1-1), she would have had to be born around 1670 and would have been at least 89 years old at her death. If there are other relevant Quaker records in Philadelphia, I am unaware of them. The Mills Family History (Ref 1, pg 523; Ref. 5, pg 86; Ref 2, pg 129) by Jeremiah Mills (born 1784) has a truthful ring to it. He stated that his great-grandfather, John Mills (1-1), emigrated from England to Philadelphia with another young man named Harrold. The Mills and Harrold families remained together for many years and their children inter-married. This story is well worth reading. It is my belief that my John Mills (1-1) ancestor was born in England about 1688 and emigrated to America around 1704. It is logical that he entered the U.S. at Philadelphia like so many of his fellow Quakers. He was the father of Henry, Thomas, Hurr, John, and Mary by his first wife. He was the father of William, Rebeckah, George, Benjamin, Alice, Tabitha and Jonathan by his second wife, Rebeckah. John Mills (1-1) died 24 Nov 1760 in NC. An early genealogist, Edna Joseph, published a Mills genealogy (Ref. 6) in the 1920s which gave John Mills' wife as Rachel Bates. I have found the probable source of this statement in a book "Early Marriage Records of the Mills Family" (Ref. 7, pg 22) by William Clemens published in 1916. This book shows that a John Mills married a Rachel Bates on 5 Oct. 1743 in Boston MA. This could not have been the marriage of John Mills (1-1) because he had married his second wife, Rebeckah, by that time and they had a son William. There is no evidence John ever traveled to Boston. His travels seem confined to PA, MD, VA, and NC. A genealogy book "Genealogy of the Gordon-Macy Hiddleston-Curtis and Allied Families" (Ref 8) was published in 1967. It included a chapter on the Mills family and showed a John Mills born ca 1660 in England and died 17 Jan 1704 in Philadelphia. Wife unknown. It then goes on to show a son John Mills born 1688 in PA, married 1708 in Chester Co. PA to Rachel Bates. Rachel died ca 1740 in MD. It shows John married second to Rebecca Harrold. This is all very interesting, but I am unable to confirm it. I attempted to contact the authors in the 1970s but was unable to reach anyone except a relative, who could not give me any sources. There are strong reasons to doubt the accuracy of the Rachel Bates and Rebecca Harrold names. As stated before I can find no substantiation of the John/father John/son relationship, although my Mills ancestors did use the name John for many generations. In fact, my brother is named John Mills. As you can see, there is much confusion over the names of the wives of John Mills (1-1). Hinshaw (Ref 9, pg 510) definitely shows that the second wife and mother of William, Rebeckah, George, Benjamin, Alice, Tabitha, and Jonathan, was named Rebeckah. I do in fact have a land grant deed from NC which has Rebeckah's name on it. I have never found any proof of her maiden name. Hinshaw (Ref 9) does not give the first name of John's first wife. I have my suspicions that John's second wife had the surname of Ballenger, but I have no firm evidence. Reference 10 lists many Quaker marriage certificates for Chester County PA. On page 42, it shows this listing for the New Garden Monthly Meeting: "Thomas MILLS son of John MILLS of manoquisy Near ye River Potomack & Elizabeth HARROLD of ye same place Daughter of Mary Harrold widow. 18, 4m Called June, 1730 . at ye house of Josiah BALLENGARS at Monoquisy afsd..... The author of this reference states in her preface, "The last name in a column of witnesses is underlined. Generally the bride and groom signed in the right hand column and the parents and immediate relatives signed underneath their names." The names in the right hand column of this particular marriage certificate are: Thomas MILLS and Elizabeth MILLS, followed by the names John MILLS, Rebeckah MILLS, Mary HARROLD, John MILLS Junr., Hur MILLS, Willm. BEALS, Liddie BEALS, Sarah BEALS Senr, Sarah BEALS Junr, Martha Wright. These facts would seem to indicate that John Mills' wife at that time was named Rebeckah The earliest civil record I have found of John Mills (1-1) is a West Nottingham PA land tax assessment of 1722, shown on page 198 of Reference 11. John's surname is listed as Miles, but this sort of misspelling was not unusual. John's name is not listed on a similar list of 1753. The John Mills family apparently left West Nottingham ca 1730 and moved to the Monocacy area of MD, which at that time was part of Prince Georges County. This area is near Frederick County VA, where the Mills family apparently lived part of the time. Reference 12 has many references to John Mills and his children's families. Because of the Indian troubles, John and many of his friends moved from Virginia to North Carolina during the period of 1750 to 1753. Both John and his wife Rebeckah received land grant deeds for property in Guilford/Rowan County NC where they settled near friends. The births, marriages, and deaths of many of the Mills clan members are detailed in Reference 9. In trying to understand the wives of John Mills, I have constructed a special table shown in Figure 2. If you will follow thru the logic in making this table, I hope you will conclude with I that both of John's wives must have been named Rebeckah. The Quaker records give much information concerning the marriages and descendants of John children by his first wife. Very little information is known by me about the marriages and descendant of John's children by his second wife. Apparently, many in this latter group left the Quaker church. A particularly perplexing problem is the correct identification of William Mills There were many men in the 1750-1850 period in the Carolinas, Tennessee, and Georgia with the name of William Mills. None seem to fit exactly, although some are included as descendants in genealogies of John Mills (1-1). Unresolved issues concerning John Mills (1-1): 1. John's parents, siblings, and ancestors. 2. John's place of origin in England. 3. Name of ship taken to America and arrival date.. 4. Surname of his first wife. 5. Surname of his second wife. 6. Positive identification of his son William and William's descendants. 7. More information on the marriages and descendants of John's children Rebeckah, George, Benjamin, Alice, Tabitha, and Jonathan. I welcome any suggestions and help with my genealogy mysteries of the early Quaker Mills families. I do have much additional related information if anyone is further interested in this family line. Rod A Mills Date: 07 Mar 1999 CHRONOLOGY OF THE JOHN MILLS FAMILY Possible YEAR JOHN'S EVENT WIVES' AGES AGE #1 #2 #3 1688 0 Probable birth date, based on marriage 1708 20 Probable marriage date for first wife 18 1709 21 Son Thomas born 19 1712 23 Son John II born 21 1714 26 Son Hurr born 24 1720 32 Son Henry born 30 1724 36 Daughter Mary born 34 1730 42 Marriage of Thomas to Elizabeth Harrold in MD. Witnesses: John and Rebeckah Mills 40 18 1732 44 Marriage of John II to Sarah Beals in PA 20 1738 50 Marriage of Hurr to Rachel Harrold 26 1740 52 Marriage of Henry to Hannah Thornburg 28 1740 52 Marriage of Mary to William Beeson 28 1742 54 Son William born to #2 wife, Rebeckah 30 18 1743 55 John deeded land in VA to his 4 sons, no wife joins in these deeds, she, no doubt being deceased 31 19 1744 56 Daughter Rebeckah born to #2 wife, 32 20 1747 59 Sons George & Benjamin born to #2 wife 35 23 1750 62 Daughter Alice born to #2 wife 38 26 1752 64 John and John II to NC from VA 40 28 1753 65 Thomas, Hurr, & Henry to NC from VA 1753 65 Daughter Tabitha born to #2 wife 42 30 1757 69 Son Jonathan born to #2 wife 45 33 1760 72 John died in NC 48 36 1761 -- John's will probated in NC 49 37 Problems: 1. Is the witness in 1730, Rebeckah, John's first or second wife? 2. If we assume that Rebeckah #2 had her last child no later than age 45, then she must have been married by age 18 to John, age 42, 24 years older than she. Unusual. 3. John had his last child at age 69. Unusual. 4. If John and Rebeckah #2 were married in, or before, 1930, why did they not have any children until 12 years later? Unusual for the times. 5. If Rebeckah #2 had her last child at any age less then 45, it would indicate that the witness Rebeckah in 1930 was probably John's first wife, also with the name Rebeckah. This could also mean that John married his second wife, Rebeckah #2, around 1741-42, and that she was only 34 when her last child was born. This would eliminate the 12 year gap in not having children. She would have been about 36 years younger than John. Unusual. Note: I have found no records concerning the wives' ages. Rod A. Mills MILLS FAMILY REFERENCES 1. MILLS And Related Lines, Paul A. Mills, Woodburn OR, 1984, 712 pgs. 2. MILLS FAMILY HISTORY, Quaker and Other Early Arrivals, Paul A. Mills, Woodbum OR, 1979, 168 pgs. 3. The Ancestors and Descendants of THE HENRY MILLS FAMILY, Paul A. Mills, Woodbum OR, 1964, 138 pgs. 4. ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AMERICAN QUAKER GENEALOGY, Volume II, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, William W. Hinshaw, GPC, Baltimore MD, 1936. 5. A GENEALOGY OF CLAYTON, REYNOLDS, BEALS, BROWN AND DESCENDED AND RELATED LINES, "THE QUAKER YEOMEN," James E. Bellarts, Portland OR, 1973, 148 pgs. 6. THE MILLS FAMILY, an unpublished manuscript, Edna Harvey Joseph, Jasper IN, ca 1920s. 7. EARLY MARRIAGE RECORDS of the MILLS FAMILY in the UNITED STATES, William M. Clemens, New York City, 1916. 8. GENEALOGY OF THE GORDON-MACY HIDDLESTON-CURTIS AND ALLIED FAMILIES, Jessie G. Flack and Maybelle G. Carman, Tulsa OK, 1967, 293 pgs. 9. ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AMERICAN QUAKER GENEALOGY, Volume I, North Carolina, William W. Hinshaw, GPC, Baltimore MD, 1936, 1185+ pgs. 10. QUAKER MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES, NEW GARDEN MONTHLY MEETING, CHESTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, 1704-1799, Gwen B. Bjorkman, Heritage Books, Bowie MD, 1990, 307 pgs. 11. HISTORY OF CHESTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, Volume I, J.S. Futhey and G. Cope, Philadelphia, 1881, 460 pgs. 12. HOPEWELL FRIENDS HISTORY, 1734-1934, Frederick County, Virginia, GPC, Baltimore MD, 1975, 1671 pgs.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILLS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jE1.2ACEB/3519 Message Board Post: Elizabeth/Elisabeth SUTTON married John MILLS when she was about 80 years old. Apparently when she died 1817, John sold off her estate but did not share the dividends with Elisabeth's family, children, so says posting on family page on RootsWeb. Who was this John MILLS, says he was born about 1720 and that Elizabeth and John married about 1804/1805. Is there some newspaper article about them, since this would have been quite the marriage at their ages? Is John and Elisabeth related to the other MILLS REED SUTTON VAN SICKLE BOATMAN families of Sussex Co. NJ.and Pine Creek, PA? I could not find so far any links for sure. Thank you. Pat cw

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILLS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jE1.2ACEB/3491.1 Message Board Post: Kurt, I think I answered you on the MILLS LIST about his possible birthplace, not being in Ohio in 1771. The area of the Northwest Territory was not opened for settlement until 1788, see History of Ohio by W H Beers 1888 tells about it. Granted their were soldiers traveling through there with General Wayne and others, a MILLS among them. Possibly he was born in PA before moving over into Ohio with his parents later on? Kentucky could be more of a link to the Nasby MILLS clan in Kentucky. See more info on Kentucky Pioneers and Ancestors on microfilm at the LDS FH Library near you. They were well known as sharpshooters and frontiersmen, but not all that sure that they would have endangered their families at that time. MILLS GIBSON JOHNSON GULICK are some of the related families that traveled together and are listed as kin to one another. Also listed as kin to MILLS GIBSON JOHNSON GULICK was Elias Boudinet. Check for more information about his family. May link to Elisha that way.

Helen S. Ullmann wrote: > Dear Ted, > > That book on John Porter's descendants is full of errors as far as the > Peter Mills family is concerned. Sorry, Helen - I thought I was being helpful. I'll ask you next time before I recommend something. But that LDS collection of 10K digitized books is pretty interesting, and growing. Ted

Mike, Please send anything you can copy or scan. I'm always open to any information that can validate our history. I know about the whip saw story but have never seen the original, just excepts. Also, do you have the parents names and dates for Jebediah Mills? Dave Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: <MAMILLSPI@aol.com> To: <MILLS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [MILLS] John Mills Sr. b. ca 1688 > This is a reply to dt-mills@mailsnare.net Re: [MILLS] John Mills, Sr. b. > ca > 1688. > > Your notes are very good and correct with regard to John Mills and I agree > there has been pieces of info over the course of time which has become the > excepted truth in large part because of a lack of record. It is > understandable and > predictable. I have among my records a copy of a hand written document > provided to me by a woman from Arkansas who is a direct descendant of John > which > was written or written for Jebediah Mills a G Great grandson of John > Mills, Sr. > The document is hand written and speaks about the saw blade used by John > Mills > and Richard Harrold when they operated a saw mill in the Chester, PA area. > I will be glad to scan and send same to you along with a multitude of > others > docs I have for this line of Mills if you so desire. > > In addition to the docs I have a photos of the location where the Cold > Creek > Meetinghouse was erected in or about the 1720s. That site is located in > what > is today known as Buckeystown, MD, in Frederick Co., MD. > > As always any person who wishes to speak to me in great depth is invited > to > do so and can reach me via my cell phone at 301.370.4393 or after 8:00 PM > EST > at 301.831.5659. > > > Michael A. Mills > SERENITY KNOLL FARM > 7941 Bennett Branch Rd, Mount Airy, Maryland 21771 > Cell 301.370.4393 Home 301.831.5659 > The information contained in this electronic transfer is considered > CONFIDENTIAL and is intended only for the person named and should not be > read or > disseminated by any person other then the person named. If this notice was > received > in error please notify the named sender at the applicable number which > appears > in the header of this notice. > > > ==== MILLS Mailing List ==== > Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet > http://www.snopes.com/ > <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/">Snopes.com</a> > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

I was referencing me and thank you for pointing out my shortsightedness. I read everything received but it is so hard for me to answer due to time constraints so sometimes I do not realize the error of my ways. Thanks Pat Michael A. Mills SERENITY KNOLL FARM 7941 Bennett Branch Rd, Mount Airy, Maryland 21771 Cell 301.370.4393 Home 301.831.5659 The information contained in this electronic transfer is considered CONFIDENTIAL and is intended only for the person named and should not be read or disseminated by any person other then the person named. If this notice was received in error please notify the named sender at the applicable number which appears in the header of this notice.

This is a reply to dt-mills@mailsnare.net Re: [MILLS] John Mills, Sr. b. ca 1688. Your notes are very good and correct with regard to John Mills and I agree there has been pieces of info over the course of time which has become the excepted truth in large part because of a lack of record. It is understandable and predictable. I have among my records a copy of a hand written document provided to me by a woman from Arkansas who is a direct descendant of John which was written or written for Jebediah Mills a G Great grandson of John Mills, Sr. The document is hand written and speaks about the saw blade used by John Mills and Richard Harrold when they operated a saw mill in the Chester, PA area. I will be glad to scan and send same to you along with a multitude of others docs I have for this line of Mills if you so desire. In addition to the docs I have a photos of the location where the Cold Creek Meetinghouse was erected in or about the 1720s. That site is located in what is today known as Buckeystown, MD, in Frederick Co., MD. As always any person who wishes to speak to me in great depth is invited to do so and can reach me via my cell phone at 301.370.4393 or after 8:00 PM EST at 301.831.5659. Michael A. Mills SERENITY KNOLL FARM 7941 Bennett Branch Rd, Mount Airy, Maryland 21771 Cell 301.370.4393 Home 301.831.5659 The information contained in this electronic transfer is considered CONFIDENTIAL and is intended only for the person named and should not be read or disseminated by any person other then the person named. If this notice was received in error please notify the named sender at the applicable number which appears in the header of this notice.

I will set forth a report of my OWN ancestral line, and along with it names of Mills families in the same area, in case they are related to other researchers reading this list. Please reply back to the list with all comments. Gideon Mills born 1798 New York, died 11-4-1870 Deerfield, Fulton Co IL. The largest city in Fulton Co IL today is CANTON, IL. and this is located very close to PEORIA, Peoria Co., IL. In the 1830 census I believe that Gideon Mills is listed at Moriah, Essex Co NY. In the 1840 census he is in Fulton Co IL, in the area called Copperas Creek In the 1850 census he is in Fulton Co IL, in the area called Utica, living next door to Ira Mills b. 1803 NY. In the 1860 census he is in Fulton Co IL, in the area called Deerfield, section #13, he arrived there in 1853. In the 1870 census he is in Fulton Co IL, in the area called Deerfield, near the Ellis Post Office. Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY married a woman prior to 1827 and they had at least one son named William H. Mills born about 1827 New York. Sometime about 1836 they arrived in the area of Fulton Co IL where he settled for the remained of his life. At least one son was there with him, and that was William H. Mills b. 1827 NY. On 6-23-1840 Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY married for the second time to Emeline Bishop b. 1811 CT, d/o Ira Bishop of Trivioli, she had previously been married to Lem (Lemuel) Marston (Hartson/Harten), he died in 1838 in Canada. The children of Lem Marston and Emeline Bishop were: James Martson b. 1830 Canada, served in 55th Regiment of Illinois Infantry, in Civil War. Lois Marsten b. 1834 Canada Susan Marsten b. 1838 Canada After Gideon Mills and Emeline Bishop married they had a second family together, these were their children: David Mills b. 1841 Fulton Co IL; served in 55th Regiment of Illinois Infantry in Civil War. Nelson G. Mills b. 4-8-1844 Fulton Co IL, married Ellen Jones 11-16-1871 Stark Co IL, d/o Isaac and Ruth Jones. Served in 70th Regiment of the Illinois Infantry. His kids were: Isaac N. Mills; Henry O. Mills; Ruth E. Mills. In the 1870 census he was listed at Stark Co IL, and the 1900 census he was at McDonough Co IL. Ann Mills b. 1844 Fulton Co IL (her name may have been HESTER Mills) Sarah Mills b. 1848 Fulton Co IL Mary Mills b. 1850 Fulton Co IL Francis C. Mills b. Dec 1854 Fulton Co IL; married 1-23-1894 Mrs. Mary H. Huffard; his step daughter was Hazel Huffard b. 1889; his children were Bertha Mills b. 1886; Leroy Mills b. 1888. 1920 census Frank Mills b. 1855 IL was at Lewistown, Fulton Co IL. As of 1871, Emeline Mills b. 1811 CT, was widowed and living in Spoon River Bottom, Fulton Co IL, and she reported that was a mother of 14 children total, she said she had 3 boys and 3 girls with her first husband Lem Marston, and she had 4 boys and 4 girls with her second husband Gideon Mills, as of 1871 she reported that 3 of her 6 kids with Marsten were living, and 5 of her children with Mills were living. She said that she had 4 married children as of 1871: 1 living in Montana; 1 living in Kansas; 1 living in Iowa; 1 living in Fulton Co IL; and the rest being still single. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilfulton/1871FultonAtlas/OldsSettlers7.html I have a strong suspicion that Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY was the older brother to Ira Mills b. 1809 NY and Alonzo Mills b.1810 NY. All these men lived at one time on Copperas Creek, which is the area now nown as Banner, Fulton Co IL. In the 1860 census both Alonzo Mills and Ira Mills live next door to each other, and in the 1850 census both Gideon Mills and Ira Mills lived next door to each other. Ira Mills b. about 1809 NY owned a LANDING on Copperas Creek, with a one story log cabin used as a warehouse. I suppose he made his living from rents recieved from storage of items brought into the area via the water. According to other researchers, this Ira Mills was very hard to deal with, and not a likeable fellow. I have never seen him with a wife or children, so it is possible he was a batchelor. In a courtcase dated 1853, Gideon Mills sued Ira Mills in Fulton County court case 2262.2, I feel that this was the reason that in 1853 the Gideon Mills family left Copperas Creek to move permanently to Deerfield, Fulton Co IL. I think this was a falling out between the 2 brothers. Alonzo Mills b. 1810 NY married a Sarah b. 1828 NY, but she would have been a second wife to him, I do not know his first wife's name. The children of Alonzo Mills were: Ellmore (Elmer?) Mills b. 1839 Missouri Franklin Mills b. 1844 New York David Mills b. 1849 New York Isaac Mills b. 1853 New York Marcus Mills b. 1855 Missouri In the 1860 census Alonzo Mills and the family above were all living next door to Ira Mills b. 1809 NY at Copperas Creek, also known as Banner , Fulton Co IL. Alonzo is a CARPENTER. The son of Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY is William H. Mills b. 1827 NY. William H. Mills married 7-11-1849 to Rosilla Douglas Simmons in Fulton Co IL. She was living there with her father Lebbeus Simmons, formerly of Mercer Co PA. They had the following family: George Mills b. 1851 Fulton Co IL died 1913 Nebraska. I have no wife or kids for him. Charles Mills b. 1855 Fulton Co IL, died ??, I have no wife or kids for him. John Oscar Mills b. 1853 Fulton Co IL died 1916 Portland , Oregon. He married Emma Brower, one daughter Pearl D. Mills, she is my great grandmother. Lebbeus Gideon Mills b. 1860 Fulton Co IL, d.??, married Clara E. Wright 1-13-1886 Fulton Co IL, children: Anna Mills b. 1890, married Fred William, children: Nora William b. 1909 IL and Wilfred William b. 1910 IL; Ola M. Mills b. 1887 IL; Leila Mills b. May 1889 IL. 1910 census Gideon Mills was at Cass, Fulton Co., IL. Estella Mae Mills b. 1865 Cuba, Fulton Co IL died 1913 Oregon, never married, no children , this is confirmed. Ellen Mills b. 1862 IL Edward Mills b. 1857 Fulton Co IL, died 1934 Fulton Co IL, never married, no children. I do not know where William H. Mills died, nor his wife. In the 1860 census at Fulton Co IL, there were the following MILLS families listed: #1. Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY, married to Emeline Bishop, as previously listed above, at Deerfield, Fulton Co IL. #2. Abraham Mills b. Dec 15, 1821 Ohio, died Apr 17, 1902 Fulton Co IL, married Mahala Blount 11-28-1849 Fulton Co IL. This family is NOT related to my family. In the 1880 census Abraham Mills states his father was born in New York, but he was born in Ohio. So he was either born in Ohio or Indiana of a father born in New York. His children were: Edgar Mills b. 1851 Fulton Co IL Ernest Mills b. 1853 " " Laura Mills b. 1854 " " Mary Mills b. 1855 " " George Mills b. 1859 " " Charles Mills b. 1860 " " Ewa C. Mills b. 1865 " " Jessie Mills b. 1868 " " (female) Mahala Blount b. 6-2-1828 Ohio, d. 5-13-1913 Fulton Co IL, d/o Allen Blount b. 1800 VA, father born Germany mother born Ireland. The Abraham Mills family line is researched by Joyce Hagerty hag@winco.net She believes this family line goes back to Thomas Mills b. 1760 New York, he moved to SC, OH, KY and some of his kids moved to Fulton Co IL. Amos Mills born 1775 in Long Island, New York, died about 1824 Indiana. He married Catherine Hulick/Gulick b. 1784 NJ. She died 4-23-1858 Deerfield, Fulton Co IL. spoonvalley2@yahoo.com Eleanor Mills b. 1805 IN, married Abraham Hulick, she died about 1879 in Dorchester, NE. Samuel Mills b. 1815 IN, married 11-30-1837 Lewissa Smith at Fulton Co IL, he died 7-2-1902 O'Keene, Blaine Co OK, Abigail Mills b. 1817 IN, married Milton Foster, she died 1872 at McDonough Co IL Abraham Mills b. 1821 OH, married Mahala Blount, already listed his family. Maria Mills b. 1822 IN, married Eligale Hilton Ruth Mills b. 1824 IN, married Uriah Washington Dickson. There is also an Isaac Mills married to Ruth Mills Hulick in Farmington, Fulton Co IL, which is next door to Deerfield. #3. Alonzo Mills b. 1810 NY, married to Sarah, already listed this family previously, in the 1860 census they are at Banner, Fulton Co IL (previously known as Coppperas Creek) #4. Ira Mills b. 1809 NY, this man is living in 1850 next door to Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY, and in 1860 census he is living next door to Alonzo Mills b. 1810 NY. I feel the 3 men are probably brothers, all from Essex Co NY. #5. William H. Mills b. 1827 NY, s/o Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY and first unknown wife. Married to Rosilla Douglas Simmons. This family are my ancestors. I have previously listed all their children. The 1880 census, all households named MILLS in Fulton Co IL: #1. Thomas Mills b. 1848 KY, m. Eliza b. 1849 IN, they live at Harris twsp. Their kids are: Nanann b. 1876 IL; Benjamin b. 1879 IL; Maggie b. 1869 IN; Carrie b. 1871 IN #2. Henry Mills b. 1818 OH, his father was born in Maine and his mother in CT, he is a MINISTER, he lives in Canton, IL, his wife is Lusina b. 1823 NY, kids are: Mary b. 1853 MA; Jessie b. 1862 MA. #3. Abraham Mills b. 1822 OH, father born in NY, married to Mahala Blount, this family has already been describe previously, they lived at Lee, IL. #4. John Mills b. 1848 NJ, father born VA, mother born NJ, married to Samantha b. 1844 OH, kids are: William E. b. 1873 IL; Aaron K. b. 1876 IL; Sarah Viola b. 1879 IL, they are living at Astoria, IL. #5. James Mills b. 1840 ENGLAND, he is a shoemaker, his wife is Sophia b. 1840 PA, son is Henry Mills b. 1879 IL, they live at Lewistown, IL. #6. Esrum Mills b. 1850 IN, father born IN and mother also, he married Mary Purchase 12-24-1874 Fulton Co IL, kids are: Christin A. b. 1876 IL, Elizabeth L. b. 1878 IL, they are living at Orion, IL. Miscellanous persons named Mills in Fulton Co IL as of 1880 census, not rerpresenting full families names Mills: 1. Matilda Mills b. 1844 OH, working as a housekeeper 2. Epstein Mills b. 1855 MA, father born OH, living as a boarder in Canton, IL. He is son of Rev. Henry Mills of the Canton IL Presbyterian Church b. 5-21-1828 Astabula, OH, and Miss Strong of Portage, NY. Epstein's siblings are: George T Mills; J. Dolson Mills; May Mills, and Jesse Mills. 3. Gideon Mills b. 1851 IL: this man is s/o William H. Mills, he true name is Lebbeus Gideon Mills, he was named from both his maternal and paternal grandfathers. He is the brother of my great-great grandfather. 4. George E. Mills b. 1863 NJ: is this the son of Rev. Mills? 5. Peter Mills b. 1857 IL: I do not know who this man is? 6. Edward Mills b. 1854 IL, s/o William H. Mills, s/o Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY. He is the brother of my great great grandfather, John Oscar Mills. ************************************************ According to Marna Scott marna@mchsi.com : Isaac Carlisle Mills b. 10-30-1831Madison Co OH, d.12-18- 1904 (or London Mills, IL) Chestnut, Knox Co IL, married Christina Potts/Lotts 3-24-1853 Knox Co IL, they are buried at Christian Cemetery Hernon, Knox Co IL, he was the son of John Mills Jr b. Morristown, Morris Co NJ, who is buried at Monmouth, Warren Co IL, s/o John Mills, Sr married to Sarah Priden, s/o Jedediah Mills married to Sarah Roberts, s/o Timothy Mills, s/o Samuel Mills, s/o Jonathan Mills, s/o George Mills. 1880 census at Chestnut, Knox Co IL Isaac Mills 48 OH (both parents born OH) Christeen 46 OH William 20 IL Mary 18 IL George 13 IL Clara B. 11 IL Charles 5 IL The sisters of Isaac Mills b. 10-30-1831 OH are: Abigail Mills b. 1854 Peoria, Peoria Co IL; Allice Mills b. 1852 Peoria, IL; Josephine Orphelia Mills b. 1856 Peoria, IL. The father of this group is John W. Mills b. 6-1-1798 NJ, s/o Jedediah, s/o Timothy, s/o Samuel, s/o Jonathan, s/o George Mills. ************************************************************ Miss Mary Mills b. 1851, d/o Jacob Mills born in PA, married Maj. S.C. Burbridge b. 1830 OH, she was from Cuba, Fulton Co IL. ********************************************************** Cuba, Fulton Co IL was first called Centerville, then Middletown, finally called Cuba and founded in 11-16-1836, the Fulton Coal Company was situated there, on the T. P. and W. R. R., later to be reached by Springfield Northwestern R. R. ************************************************************** In the 1871 Fulton County IL Atlas, it shows Section #33 in the name of A. Mills, and section 34 in the name of A. Mills, this could be either Abraham Mills or Alonzo Mills. ************************************************************** To give a very broad overview of the various MILLS families I have run across: #1. The Smithtown and Mills Pond MILLS families, of Suffolk Co NY (this is the EASTERN section of Long Island, New York) George Mills b. 1585 d. 1674, settled at Jamaica, Queens Co NY. Timothy MIlls b. 1667 d. 1751, settled in the Suffolk Co NY area, EAST of Queens Co NY. see: http://www.geocities.com/millsancestry (you may need to google for this website) #2. Mills families located in Hartford Co CT, go back to the immigrant ancestor named Pieter (Peter) Mills of Windsor, CT who was a Dutch immigrant. Please see the BOOK written by Helen S. Ullmann, available at www.newenglandancestors.org In conclusion, I am not yet sure of the father of my earliest ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY, is might be a William Mills b. about 1773-1776, who married Hannah, and they lived at Moriah, Essex Co NY. William and Hannah are buried at Mineville Cemetery, Moriah , NY. In the 1830 census William F. Mills is listed at Crown Point, Essex Co NY In the 1840 census William Mills is at Moriah, Essex Co NY In the 1850 census William Mills b. 1773 is at Moriah, NY with a wife Hannah b. 1780. In the 1860 census William Mills b. 1773 NY is widowed and living at Moriah, NY in the household of Cheney STIMPSON. William Mills d. 3-9-1861 or 1867, apparently the grave stone has been read as both 1861 and 1867, so the last number must be very hard to decern between a 1 or 7. He died at 91 years of age, and his wife Hannah died 2-10-1852 at 72 years of age. The names of MILLS men living in Essex Co NY are: 1800 census: Timothy Mills, Jay, Essex Co NY 1810 census: Aaron Mills, Schroon, Essex Co NY Richard Mills " Stephen Mills " Benjamin Mills Essex Co NY 1820 census: David Mills, Schroon, Essex Co NY Samuel Mills " Silas Mills, Ticonderoga, Essex Co NY 1830 census Benjamin Mills, Chesterfiled, Essex Co NY William F. Mills Crown Point, Essex Co NY Gideon Mills, Moriah, Essex Co NY (thought to be Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY Samuel Mills, Schroon, Essex Co NY Samuel Mills, Jr., Ticonderoga, Essex Co NY 1840 census Benjamin Mills, Chesterfield, Essex Co NY Henry Mills, Moriah, Essex Co NY William Mills, Moriah, Essex Co NY Samuel Mills, Schroon, Essex Co NY Silas H. Mills, Ticonderoga, Essex Co NY 1850 census: Benjamin Mills b. 1810 NH (m. Emily b. 1812 VT) Chesterfiled, Essex Co NY (the 1860 census says he was b. 1786 NH) James Mills b. 1821 NH (m. Adeline b. 1821 VT) Chesterfiled, Essex Co NY William Mills b. 1773-1776 NY (m. Hannah b. 1780 NY), Moriah, Essex Co NY Silas Mills b. 1800 NY, Ticonderoga, Essex Co NY Solomon Mills b. 1828 NY, Ticonderoga, Essex Co NY **I listed males only named Mills** Question: did William and Hannah Mills of Moriah, Essex Co NY have the following kids: Gideon Mills b. 1798NY; Silas Mills b. 1800NY; Ira Mills b. 1809 NY, Alonzo Mills b. 1810 NY, Mabel Mills b. 1814 (m. Cheney Stimpson)???????????? Does anyone recognise any of these names? Best regards, Lilly Martin, d/o Emily Leach, d/o Charles E. Leach, s/o Pearl Daphne Mills, d/o John Oscar Mills b. 1857 IL, s/o William H. Mills b. 1827 NY, s/o Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY.

Dear Ted, That book on John Porter's descendants is full of errors as far as the Peter Mills family is concerned. Helen Ullmann

FYI Listers interested in John Sr. b. ca 1688 m1 Rebeckah, m2 Rebeckah: There is a lot of erroneous information on John Sr. that has been propagated over the years. In this day and age it is impossible to remove an error. Today's research has one bad habit of forwarding anything found on the internet without any source references or a reference to another internet source. While some of the information can not be proven or disproved, I would recommend at the very least one attempts to locate a source reference. THE KNOWN FACTS ABOUT JOHN MILLS Sr. There was a fire in 1759 that destroyed all the records of Hopewell Monthly Meeting. These records would most likely had contained the information that everyone is searching out. ref. Source Hopewell Friends History 1734-1934 Vol I & II by Hopewell Friends. Recorded documents from MILLS VA times. 1. Thomas Mills & Elizabeth Harrold Marriage Record. Thomas was the first born, and first to be married on the "18th day of ye 4th moth Called June in ye year of our Lord:1730". (this is an old style date) This wedding took place in the home of Josiah Ballengars at Monoquisy - Those in attendance: T M ye mark of Thomas Mills Elizabeth Mills James Wright Mary Wright John Mills George Mathas Mary Ballengar Rebeckah Mills Henry Ballenger Hannah Ballengar Mary Harrold Josiah Ballinger Mary Williams John Mills Junr Nathaniel Wood Hannah Wood Hur Mills Morgan Bryan Martha Brian Willm Beals Jonathn Richardson Racheld Harrold Liddie Beals Edwd Davis Mary Mills Sarah Beals Sennrr Chidly Mathis Sarah Vanmetere Sarah Beals Junr Willm Sweeting Eliza: Barton Martha Wright John Reece Ann Beals John Williams Eliza: Wright Ruben Mills John Beals Junr Henry Mills Phebe Beals Jonathn Harrold John Wright Elinor Bryan Conclusion based on signatures and locations - John Sr. was Married to a Rebeckah that attended this wedding. Mary Harrold, mother of the bride was a widow, no male Harrold signature. These conclusions need additional sources, but are the strongest found proof to date. Wedding Ref. Source: ---- SOCIETY OF FRIENDS, NEW GARDEN MONTHLY MEETING, CHESTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, MARRIAGES, 1718-1765. Friends Historical Library of Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, Pennsylvania, transcription from a photocopy from the microfilm copy of the original record. 2. 1315 acre Land Patent for John Sr. 23 April 1735, survey made by Robert Brooke, recorded 12 Nov 1735. Ref. Source ---- Copy of land Patent. 3. John Jr. also had a survey made by Robert Brooke on Middle creek for 408 acres, just north of his father's land, and received his patent from the Colony on the same date 12 Nov 1735. Ref. Source: ---- Brooke, Robert, Book of Surveys, Virginia Historical Society, Richmond, Virginia. footnote 1. 4.On 9 March 1743/44, John Sr. sold 307½ acres to his son Thomas for 30 pounds (Tract 38A), 150 acres to Jonathan Harrold for 15 pounds (Tract 38B), 250 acres to his son Hurr Mills for 12 pounds (Tract 38C), 207½ acres to his son Henry for 10 pounds (Tract 38D) and 100 acres to William Chenowith for 24 pounds, 5 shillings (Tract 38E). He also sold 200 acres to John Hayes on 11 March 1743/44 for four pounds.(Tract 38F) Ref. Source: ---- Brooke, Robert, Book of Surveys, Virginia Historical Society, Richmond, Virginia page 91. 5. On 9 March 1743, John Mills Jr. transferred possession of 165 acres from his 408-acre patent land to John Beals for six pounds. (Tract 58A, Map 4) He sold the remaining 243 acres to William Baldwin for 20 pounds on 11 February 1752. Ref. Source: ---- Brooke, Robert, Book of Surveys, Virginia Historical Society, Richmond, Virginia page 91. 6. On 4 June 1749, John Sr. purchased 130 acres from John Thomson for 17 pounds, 10 shillings. This was land that Thomson had purchased from Thomas Mills. On 6 August 1750, John Sr. purchase 150 acres (Tract 38B) from Jonathan Harrold and his wife Catherin for 18 pounds. On 27 April 1753, he and his wife Rebecca sold the above 130-acre and 150-acre tracts (both part of the 1,315-acre patent land) to Jacob Rees for 82 pounds. Henry Mills and his wife Hannah sold 207½ acres (Tract 38D) to Morris Rees Jr. for 115 pounds on 27 April 1753. On the same day his brother Hurr Mills and wife Rachell sold 250 acres (Tract 38C) to Thomas Rees for 87 pounds, 10 shillings. Thomas Mills and his wife Elizabeth sold 307½ acres to Morris Rees Sr. for 150 pounds on that date also. (Tract 38A). On 9 March 1743, John Mills Jr. transferred possession of 165 acres from his 408-acre patent land to John Beals for six pounds. (Tract 58A, Map 4) He sold the remaining 243 acres to William Baldwin for 20 pounds on 11 February 1752. Ref. Source: ---- Brooke, Robert, Book of Surveys, Virginia Historical Society, Richmond, Virginia page 13, 58, 64, 67, 69, 79 and 147. 7. John Sr. and 5 Children move with spouses from VA to NC in 1752 and 1753. John Sr. 1752, 8, 1 Crane Creek MM, Orange Co., NC rocf Hopewell MM, Opeckan [VA] dated 1752, 6, 1 Thoms 1753, 9, 1 Crane Creek MM, Orange Co., NC rocf Hopewell MM, VA, dated 1753, 5, 7 John Jr. 1753, 9, 1 Crane Creek MM, Orange Co., NC rocf Hopewell MM, VA, dated 1753, 5, 7 Hur 1753, 9, 1 Crane Creek MM, Orange Co., NC rocf Hopewell MM, VA, dated 1753, 5, 7 Henry 1753, 9, 1 Crane Creek MM, Orange Co., NC rocf Hopewell MM, VA, dated 1753, 5, 7 Mary 1752, 3, 7 Crane Creek MM, Orange Co., NC rocf Hopewell MM, VA, dated 1751, 3, 6 Ref. Source Hinshaw Vol I page 374 and 409. More Conclusions. John Sr. may have never lived in PA, as the New Garden MM PA had members that lived in the Monoquisy MD area. This area was on the Potomac River MD and Opekon tributaries VA. Dave Mills

For Helen Ullman and others interested in Conn. Mills: "The descendants of John Porter of Windsor, Connecticut, 1635-9," a book in the LDS digitized collection (at http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc), has many references to Mills families in Conn, 18th and 19 centuries. Thought you might not have seen this work. It can be printed in its entirety, or you can use the LDS searching techniques to locate Mills references. Ted Mills