In a message dated 10/28/00 6:57:10 PM, Caffecupz writes: << Hi- I`m looking for my gfathers` family. They, Wilhelm/William & Margaretta/Margaret, came from Bavaria, Germany and had 4 sons in the 1860`s: Philip, Charles, Fritz & Gustaves. William was a carpenter. I know nothing more. Thank u very much for this help. Barbara : ) >>