Bonedigger...maybe you can help me....somebody..anybody! :o) No Johns as of yet. But William is being a royal pain. My grandmother, Helen Martha Miller was born in Bellefontaine, Logan County, Ohio in 1896. I always knew her birthdate as 3-30-1896 but her page in the birth-book (no birth cert.) has it as Dec 8 1895. She could have changed the year to marry my grandfather, I dont know. The problem is.. The page lists her mother as Jennie Mohr and her father as Wm. Miller. In the Bellefontaine Examiner Jennie Mohr married AJ Detrick and they had a son 9-19-1890. She could very well have re-married later but I cant find any information on any of them...except the Detricks. I've already connected with their descendents. Helen married Fred Bishop and I have got the Bishops all the way back to England in the 1600's... The thing I have to be careful of is, apparently, there were 4-5 Miller families living in that area...and they werent related! I have lots of info from the Examiner but nothing concrete... I would appreciate it if you could see what you have...he is one of my last Brick Walls. Thank you Maggie