Rick, When I was searching out my Hiram Miller's lineage, someone sent me information on the following family of Stark Co., Ohio, that was listed in an old family bible. However, this was not my Hiram which I discovered later. John and Elizabeth Miller had a son, Phillip Miller who married Matilda Howe of Pa. Phillip and Matilda Howe Miller's children were listed as: 1. G. D. Miller (son) 2. Rachael Miller 3. Hiriam H. Miller 4. Samuel W. 5. P.J. Miller (son) 6. E.R. Miller (dtr) 7. R.M.D. Miller (son) 8. Arretta Jane 9. C.J. Miller 10. Cyrus A. Miller 11. Roxy A. Miller 12. Abel K. Miller 13. N.G.G. Miller (son) Received an email from Pat M. on a John Miller (1818) and D.D. Miller (1822) that were brothers and may have some connection possibly to Phillip....I think their parent's names were John and Elizabeth of Pa. also but we never compared any further. There is some information on the LDS site on Matilda Howe but nothing on her children that I found. Don't know if this is helpful or not. There are so many Millers and they have alot of common first names that its hard to keep my two Miller lines straight just by memory. Wish I could help more. Terrie >From: Ravan28@aol.com >To: terrieraymer@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: [Pafayett-L] Nicholas Muller-abt. early 1700's >Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:03:27 EST > >Well, I dont know that this is the same Jacob Miller. >My John Jacob Miller allegedly emigrated from Wurtemburg germany c. 1819 >wiht >his wife Anna Mary Bush and 9 kids - including Christina Miller who >married >John Frederick Bender my ancestor. I have the other kids too. They lived >in >Hagerstown for a couple of years and moved to Stark Co OH. Jacob Miller is >buried in Ahsland Co OH, d. 1868. Anna d, 1850, > >If you see any links here, let me know. >Rick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com