I just got the copy of the marriage cert. of Henry Miller and Mary Jansen they had her name wrong it was copied as Mary Johnson the dates are all right and so I now have to send for the death cert. of Henry Miller and a birth cert. of their oldest child Anna which may give me my Grandfather age and birth date or at least a starting point. I want to thank you all for the help you gave me and I am at least moving forward a little. Thanks Seaash47