Last February, Pat and Ed Brooks <[email protected]> posted this to the list: > My great grandfather, John Anthony Miller, Sr., emigrated from > somewhere in Germany in about 1854, possibly at the age of 5, and > lived in Roscoe, Sullivan County, NY. Also with him came two > brothers, William and George, of which I have no further information. > He served in the Civil War in a NY regiment, the 143rd. He died > 8/29/1916. He had 8 children: > > John Anthony, Jr., my grandfather, 4/27/1875-6/8/1950, who was a mason > and built most of the buildings in the town of Roscoe as well as > several stone walls along Rt. 17; he married Mamie Sipple and had 7 > children > > Henry M., who had 2 children: Martin and ____ and stayed in Roscoe > area > > Charles H., 1886-1968, married Mary C. Ruch (1895-1970), no children > > These 2 brothers ran the Mountain Springs House, a guest > house outside Roscoe. > > Margaret, married Charles B. Hoolihan ("Baron") 7/10/1898, lived in > Margaretville, NY and had 6 children > > Rose, 1895-1965, married Lorenzo (Lon) Spaulding Hendrick, lived in > Rochester, NY and no children > > Mary, married ______Hammer or Hemmer, lived in N. Branch, NY and later > moved to Monticello, NY; had 1 son > > Pauline or Paulina, had restaurant in Roscoe? > > Rosie, lived in Roscoe > > If this information matches anyone else's, I'd appreciate > any input you can give me. I've been a member of the Miller bulletin > board for quite a while, but have never seen any Millers from that > area. > Thanks. I am almost completely sure that this John A. Miller was one of my GG Grandfathers. I am descended from his daughter Parmelia (also spelled Permelia, Pamelia, Amalia and even Cornelia on some documents.) She was his oldest daughter, born 2 Oct 1870. She appears on the 1880 census of Fremont, not Roscoe, along with her mother, Catherine, and siblings John, Henry, Margaret and Mary. In 1889 or 1890 she married Lewis Norton, son of Edward J. Norton and Mary Elizabeth Secord, who had lived in Fremont but had moved to Cooks Falls and then Burnwood, both in Delaware county. Edward J. also served in F Co. of the 143rd., enlisting on the same day and at the same place as John Miller. Parmelia died from childbirth complications on 7 Apr 1902. She was supposedly buried in Goulds, Delaware, NY but I can't find her stone in either cemetery there. Their children were Clifford, Ruby, Dennis, Bessie, Henry, Mary Katie and Florence Pamelia. Clifford was my Grandfather. The oral tradition in Dennis' family is that when Parmelia died, the children were brought up by various relatives. In his case, one Margaret Miller Hoolihan, who had a brother named Henry. Knowing only this and that Parmelia listed her father as having been born in Germany on the 1900 census (where she's called Cornelia), I did an exhaustive search for Miller families in Delaware and Sullivan counties that matched these parameters. Yours is the only one that did. Unfortunately, that page of the 1880 Fremont census is water damaged and very hard to read at the bottom. Parmelia is called Amelia. The census taker for Fremont made many, many similar mistakes (and had terrible handwiting, as well). I did extensive research on the Hoolihan family and found that Margaret married two of them, first Baron Richard Hoolihan in 1898, with whom she had six children, and later Charles Buckley Hoolihan, Baron's brother, about 1910. They had at least 4 children, 3 of whom died on the same day in May of 1916 and are buried together in Roscoe (I just found this out recently). John Miller's older brother William lived next door to him in Fremont in 1880, with his wife, Arriette, and sons, Henry and Wilmot. The 1860 census shows John, William, and Conrad (not George), living with their parents, Henry and Catherine, in Fremont. They had emigrated from Darmstadt, Germany. Sullivan county has hundreds of families that seem to have come from Darmstadt within a few years of each other. I never looked into the later Roscoe censuses. I didn't know they ever lived in Roscoe. I lost track of everyone except Parmelia and Margaret after 1880. Oddly, part of the family story was that Margaret and Parmelia had a brother NAMED Roscoe. This obviously got warped in the retelling. I have a lot more details, names, dates, etc. We obviously need to exchange everything we have on these branches of our family. Your Cousin, more or less, Bob Norton