My GGGrandfather was Richard Miller. I only have a clue that he was from Maryland or PA. from one or two census. Then later only PA.. He was born in 1808, lived in Pultney or West Wheeling, OH and married Catherine Frazier of PA. Can anyone shed light on this family member. Children were Drusilla, Lucy, Elizabeth, Martin Luther Joshua and Marrion. The children were all born in Pultney, Belmont Co. OH. I've been stuck on RIchard for a long long time. One hint I have is and Aunt who named all of her children after ancestors and She had a Richard and a Robert. There was a Robert in Pultney who would fit for age and place but I can't find any proof. Thanks in advance Char Miller-Jones D E Miller <dmiller655@fuse.net> wrote: Lily, By the same token, I have difficulty in determining area's by what dialect was being spoken, ie; Upper and Lower and the fact they had difficulty understanding each other. I have heard their diets were even different as one ate sauerbraten and the other did not. I know of an early Miller / Mueller marriage where he spoke upper and she the lower and they met while on the boat to the colonies. DE Millr -----Original Message----- From: miller-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:miller-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lilly Martin Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:09 AM To: miller@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Miller] german vs polish miller Hello, My ancestor John D. Miller was born in Wurttemburg in 1823. When he was born there was no such place or country called GERMANY. Germany is a very new country, it is not that old. There has always been an England, for example, but not so for Germany, it is quite a new invention. Germany used to be made of a a patch-work quilt of small areas ruled by a Prince, or a Duke, that sort of thing. There was no central, supreme leader over all. For example: Wurttemberg is in the area which has the present city of Stuttgardt, Germany. There was Bavaria, Hesse, Westphalia, etc. Lots of small areas, with changing borders. Places like Prussia would be a area with changing borders. For example: my ancestor Mary E. Miller was born in 1850 in Germany, yet her parents who were born in the same area she was were called all their lives in USA as born in Wurttemberg. In 1849 there was a Revolution in Germany, and that might be a cut off date for many place terms there. Please be aware, I am NOT an expert on German History, only as it pertains to my own family. The PLACE name of the BIRTH of a person is correctly given as the place name at the TIME they were born. So in the 1930 census, your ancestor should state the PLACE her parents were born as of their birthdate. However, we know people don't always say the correct thing, so in 1930 she might say Germany for example. Why would she say POLAND? Could it be, that as of 1930 the exact spot they were born at was NOW called Poland? Or, was a simple mistake made by the census taker, and Poland was written, only because he was in a Polish neighborhood in Chicago? This happened to me in Chicago. My ancestor there was a German born Christian, but yet the street he lived on was all Russian born Jews. The census taker got so used to writing Russia that he did the same for my ancestor, but I immediately knew the mistake when I looked at the census image page, the entire page is marked Russian, so he was included by mistake. The census taker might have thought the entire neighborhood were all the same type of people, and so he marked them all the same. Could your ancestor have been in a Polish neighborhood? Just coming up with some ideas. If you already know the town, or village name in Germany, or suspect you know, tell us here, and maybe we can all discuss whether it was Germany or Poland, and the various times. I have one researcher-contact who really is knowlegeable, and I could consult with her, she has old maps. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [Miller] german vs polish miller > hi list, > my grandmother, anna miller, born in chgo, lists her parents as being born > in poland (1930 census), but when i enter miller, poland for 1910, nothing > comes up except all germany.. > > my question, was it common for 1910 census to say germany, but then the > same > person to say poland for 1930? > > thank you > dee > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MILLER > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MILLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MILLER ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MILLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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