This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mFB.2ACE/2706.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Birth records for that time frame are closed to the public for privacy and identity theft reasons. step 1- Ask his family (if you haven't already). step 2- Look at Dean Harris's WWI draft registration card and/or military service record. It will show birthdate/birthplace, where he was living, his employer, closest relative, physical description, etc. This is near the middle of that decade and during the time his 3 oldest children were being born in Michigan. Hearing that the couple was married in Ithaca, Gratiot Co., the town north of Antha's home in Gratiot County, substantiates my belief that they probably lived near there until they moved to New York 1919-1920. Is it possible that Clinton "Cty" was thought to be "City" when it was actually the abbreviation for "County"? The "village of Clinton" in Lenawee Co. MI has never been called "Clinton City".