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Author: carlsonjm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kent/8628.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Their marriage from: http://data.wmgs.org/Marriages/FMPro?-db=KentCountyMarriageIndex&-format=search.htm&-view Doornbos Harm Neels Clara 21 52 1922-1924 >From Family Search: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 Michigan Marriages Groom: Harm Doornbos, 28 Birth: 1895, Netherlands Parents: Albert Doornbos & Alberta Batema Bride: Clara Neels, 18 Birth: 1905, Grand Rapids Parents: Peter Neels & Jessie Baker Date: 20 Jan 1923, Grand Rapids Harm's family was from Groningen; his parents' marriage: Source Civil register - Marriage Archive location Groninger Archieven General Municipality: Uithuizen Type of record: Marriage certificate Record number: 14 Registration date: 16-05-1891 Groom Albert Doornbos (farmhand) Place of birth: Zandeweer, Kantens Bride Albertje Batema (day laborer) Place of birth: Usquert Father groom Hendrik Doornbos (day laborer) Mother groom Jantje Harms Frans (day laborer) Father bride Kornelis Batema (day laborer) Mother bride Trientje Stute (day laborer) groom 24; bride 20; legitimizing 1 child Harm's birth: Source Civil register - Birth Archive location Groninger Archieven General Municipality: Uithuizen Type of record: birth Record number: 39 Registration date: 05-05-1894 Child Harm Doornbos Gender: M Abandoned child: N Date of birth: 04-May-1894 Place of birth: Uithuizen Father Albert Doornbos (day laborer) Mother Albertje Batema Clara's parents married in Grand Rapids: Neels Peter Baker Jessie 15 85 1907-1910 Groom: Peter Neels, 41 Birth: [about] 1867, Netherlands Parents: Frank Neels & ___nnie Oosdyk Bride: Jessie Baker, 23 Birth: 1885, Grand Rapids Parents: Henry Baker & ___atie Jeltena Date: 22 Aug 1908, Grand Rapids Peter's parents were married in Zeeland, NL: Source Civil register - Marriage Archive location Zeeuws Archief General Number of finding aid: 25.131 Municipality: Waarde Type of record: Marriage certificate Record number: 4 Registration date: 09-Jun-1859 Groom Franciscus Bernardus Neels [Frank] Age: 29 Place of birth: Hoofdplaat Bride Willemina Oostdijk Age: 19 Place of birth: Krabbendijke Father groom Johannis Bernardus Neels Mother groom Levina Jacoba de Meijer Father bride Marinus Oostdijk Mother bride Maria de Kok Peter's birth: Petrus Neels Born on Sunday, April 2, 1865 Waarde Registration date: 03-Apr-1865, number: 10 Born in: Waarde, on 02-Apr-1865 Petrus Neels Father: Franciescus Bernardus Neels Mother: Willemina Oostdijk Despite the marriage certificate, I think Jessie's parents were Gerrit (vs Henry) Baker and Klaaske (Katie) Jeltema. Maybe Gerrit also used the name Henry. This would mean Clara was named for her maternal grandmother (Klaaske), which was the Dutch way. Here is the family in 1900: 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Jessie Bakker Home in 1900: Grand Rapids Ward 5, Kent, Michigan Age: 14 Birth Date: Dec 1885 Birthplace: Michigan Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: Gerritt Father's Birthplace: Netherlands Mother's Name: Klaaske Mother's Birthplace: Netherlands Marital Status: Single Residence : Grand Rapids City, Kent, Michigan Occupation: Household Members: Gerritt Bakker 56 Klaaske Bakker 40 Elke Bakker 26 John Bakker 25 Sietke Bakker 23 Gosse Bakker 18 Gerritt Bakker 15 Jessie Bakker 14 John Bakker 12 Annie Bakker 7 I'm still trying to find Jessie's birth certificate to prove this connection, but it doesn't look like it was registered (or it's not on-line yet). Gerrit and Klaaske were married in Friesland (they immigrated 14 Apr 1883, New York, with 6 children [Jacob, Eelke, Jan, Sietske, Gerrit & Gosse] aboard the Pennland, headed for Grand Rapids): Source Civil register - Marriage Archive location Tresoar, Frysk Histoarysk en Letterkundich Sintrum General Number of finding aid: 30-37 Item number: 2032 Municipality: Tietjerksteradeel Type of record: Marriage certificate Record number: 1 Registration date: 07-01-1882 Groom Gerrit Baukes Bakker Age: 38 Place of birth: Achlum, gemeente Franekeradeel Bride Klaaske Gosses Jeltema Age: 21 Place of birth: Oenkerk Father groom Bauke Jans Bakker Mother groom Trijntje Gerrits Bosch Father bride Gosse Jans Jeltema Mother bride Tjitske Jacobs Sikma Gerrit was previously married to Hendrikje Jacobs Viersen, the mother of 7 children (most of whom immigrated). In summary: 1 your descendant of Harm & Clara 2 Harm Doornbos 3 Clara Neels 4 Albert Doornbos 5 Albertje Batema 6 Pieter Neels 7 Jessie Baker 8 Hendrik (Henry) Doornbos 9 Jantje Harms Frans 10 Kornelis Batema 11 Trientje Stute 12 Franciscus (Frank) Bernardus Neels 13 Willemina Oostdijk 14 Gerrit Baukes (Henry) Baker 15 Klaaske Gosses Jeltema 16 ...I didn't look for these 4 couples yet, but I could 24 Johannis Bernardus Neels 25 Levina Jacoba de Meijer 26 Marinus Oostdijk 27 Maria de Kok 28 Bauke Jans Bakker 29 Trijntje Gerrits Bosch 30 Gosse Jans Jeltema 31 Tjitske Jacobs Sikma Dutch records from genlias.nl If I can help you further, contact me at my e-mail below. Joan carlsonjm@hotmail.com (not related) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.