This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kFB.2ACE/5664.1 Message Board Post: I found this in l880 census for Ohio Tully, Van Wert Oh 257A John shaw age 59 b Ohio father b. Pa mother b. Md Eleanor Shaw age 57 wife Stephen Shaw age 20 Frances Engleright dau widow age 33 b. Oh Harry Engleright grandson age ll b. Mich father b. Mi mother b. Ohio Anna B. Engleright granddau age 9 b. Mi. Eleanor Engleright, granddau age 7 b. Mich. Helen Ringer not related