This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kFB.2ACE/4045.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for your help...that clarifies the year. The other information matches my records. I have that Jan was born 21 Feb 1860 and died 18 Feb. 1866. A second Jan was born 14 Jul 1866 and immigrated with the family to Newaygo Co. Michigan. My grandfather was Sijtze who is listed as a girl on the Ellis Island records. The mother, Antje Willems Visser must have died at sea. The question about the month of Johannes' birth comes from documents he filled out here in the US....probably it was Nov. and there was some confusion on his part.