This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ardis48 Surnames: Kalamazoo State Hospital Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/16470.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The advice about patients at the Kalamazoo State Hospital was correct. There were insane patients, however there were all kinds of elderly and ill who had no other place to go. We didn't have nursing homes or assisted living and many people had no choice, but to go to the state hospital. Consider these records as similar to adoption papers. The deceased has no right to privacy, however the hospital does have a right to restrict treatment of the patients. The vital records are public record, however the hospital records are not. This is the same as medical records in other facilities. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/16470.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I left out a word in my last reply, I meant to say he was probably not a mental patient. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Gavitt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/16470.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Death record for Cassius Gavitt. http://kalamazoogenealogy.org/Death Records/1933/KalamazooStateHospital-19-1933.htm He was not a mental patient, the State Hospital was also used for elderly people who could not afford any other health care & couldn't take care of themselves. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Charmer033 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/16470.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not quite sure, but everywhere I've researched has said that the hospital records are closed off from EVERYBODY for "eternity." Even to those who are family members to the former patients. I've been looking all over for patient records as well, but somehow...they're all gone or classified. I'm going to try to get into the hospital and see if they're there. As for the REASON nobdy is allowed to see them or have access to them...I have no idea. But it sounds bad. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Perry, Henderson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/14139.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You can get the obit for William E. Perry from the Kalamazoo Gazette. Put this citation in with the request. KG 08/22/1981 B,009:3 NEWS There is a William L. who died in 1974. KG 06/18/1974 D,004:5 NEWS Here is the obit link & they are only $1.00. http://www.kpl.gov/genealogy/obituary-requests/ I didn't find an obit for Elnora Henderson in 1953 listed. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jeanh1943 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/14139.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like an obituary look up please. Elnora Tilbury Perry Henderson died in Kalamazoo 1953. She was my paternal grandmother. Her son Loyal G. Perry was my father. I would also like an obituary for William Perry, last I knew living in Paw Paw, died sometime after 1976 (per Harrison Perry obituary). He was my uncle. Thank you for your help Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Cleveland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looks like you want both of these for Mrs. James Cleveland Funeral notice KG 08/03/1879 ,004:2 NEWS Fire and loss of life at Goguac Lake KG 08/01/1879 ,004:3 NEWS Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This link is where you can order an obit but I think you can use it for what you are looking for. http://www.kpl.gov/genealogy/ In this link click obituary requests. Look up what you found & there will be a citation number which gives you the paper, date, page & column & put that in your request then they will know exactly what you want & it will only cost $1.00. A citation example would be with a KG, & that is the Kalamazoo Gazette. KG 08/01/1879 ,004:3 NEWS. This is probably the one you want anyway. That would have happened in Battle Creek, Calhoun Co.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 20tee10 Surnames: CLEVELAND-HUDSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Me again. I finally was able to find an item of interest to me at the library website....Fire and Loss of Life at Gaguac Lake 08-01-1879 in the local Indexes but couldn't print it. Do you know if the libary will send me a copy and how I make a request? Thanks....Lora Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 20tee10 Surnames: HUDSON-CLEVELAND Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello....I just tried to do a search but didn't see any of the commands that you mention i.e. OK, 8, etc. Do you have to have a library card or live in MI? Thanks....Lora Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nothing in his obit to shed light on why he was in Kalamazoo? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tkthorson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much. I have the family situation all set, but was trying to learn more about his situation, and how he ended up there. There was some evidence that he may have run off and joined one of the Union camps at a very young age, and not returned quite the same. No evidence of an actual enlistment though. I had not seen this record before, though, and I'll add that to my research. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Sullivan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is the death record for Daniel Sullivan age 79 who died in the State Hospital. http://kalamazoogenealogy.org./Death Records/1929/KalStateHosp-6-1929.htm Hope this is of some help, parents are listed. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tkthorson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your help! Yes, I think that's my next step, so i will have h to see what records are likely to have been produced that far back if any, in Kent county. I really do appreciate all of your help--thank you again for your efforts. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Sullivan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't see anything in the local paper for that time period. There is an obit for a Daniel P. Sullivan but he died in 1981. Could be a court order from Kent Co.?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tkthorson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sure, Id appreciate any help: Daniel P. Sullivan. However, as I noted, he was from Kent County, and would not have attracted any notoriety by his presence in Kalamazoo. And, I doubt that there was anything newsworthy about it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Go to the Kalamazoo Library site, click the OK button & enter the name. If there are any records on microfilm from the Kalamazoo newspapers they should be here. http://www.catalog.kpl.gov/uhtbin/cgisirsi/x/0/49 After you enter the name, in the dropdown boxes select SUBJECT in the one next to the name & in the lower one select LOCAL INDEXES AND COMMUNITY INFORMATION. If you lose the page go back the the OK button. If you want you can give me the name & i'll see if I can find any info.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tkthorson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the insight. He had family, so I presume that perhaps they simply were not able to care for him because of his condition. One of the census supplemental tables indicated "dementia", and the records indicate that he must have been admitted some where in the mid 1870s. I was interested in finding out more, and was wondering if the court records of that period might contain something. I doubt that the Institutions records would even be available. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philipffej Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Probably would have been a court order if the person was insane, or a doctor could commit them because of illness. I do know in later years a person could have themselves committed. I had relatives who died there but were not insane, the Asylum was used for people who could not take care of themselves. http://www.kpl.gov/local-history/health/kph.aspx Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tkthorson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.kalamazoo/27060.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks. Yes. Well, it is interesting the note the changing and in fact harsher disposition of the public. In the earlier censuses he is a "patient". i note later that they become "inmates". I do not think that he was placed there in connection with a crime, but I wondered if a court proceeding was required back then to place someone. Sicne it is noted that he was not a private pay (although the family could have well-afforded the cost I believe) I wondered if that meant that he had been placed there by an action of the court. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.