This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BGB.2ACI/383.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes...we are in the right family anyways...Lela was Grandpa's sister..... There were 2 sisters Lela and Lillian and 4 boys...Harry, Maynard, Anthony, and Richard. I wonder if any info about Anthony Sr. would be on any records of theirs. Mom thought he would have been married in Jackson....I will keep digging...thanks......karren

Here comes a humble inquiry from Sweden. I hope it´s not to bold to ask? My lunch hour is much to short, and even if I consider my two Coffee breaks too, America is still far away, and on the other side of the world, right. That’s why I’ll try it this way. So if, by any chance, there is someone, that lives near by the Woodland Cemetery, and also owns a digital camera, and of course have the spare time to go there and take a few photos of some tombstones, and then send them to me via the Internet, I would be MORE than thankful! The tombstones in question Mary A Burton, maiden name Adler born 1 May in 1857, Peru Il Died 24 Aug, buried 27 Aug 1941. Her son Charles Adler Starcross, born 16 Aug in 1882 I Jackson MI Died 29 Dec 1941, buried 2 Jan 1942 His wife Harriet I have no info about her. Thanks in advance Johnny Nyberg

Hi, Is there someone in Leoni that may be able to help me find information on Emma (Campbell) Sponsler, wife of Johnson Sponsler, please? Emma was born 1884 in Michigan (according to 1930 census), and had married Johnson between 1923-1930. It was the second marriage for both, I think. Johnson was previously married to M Icy (sp?) b. 1884 in OH. I'm trying to find information on Emma through an obit or other public record in order to trace her parents names. Her parents were both born in Canada. Is there an online index for marriages for the years 1923-1930 in Leoni? She may have used her married name (if she were previously married) in her marriage record with Johnson. The last record I have of Emma and Johnson was in 1948, when they were listed in Emma's brother's obituary. So, I know they were living in Leoni during this time. Are there city directories, newspaper indexes, or cemetery transcriptions that might help me start my search and work backwards? I would really appreciate any suggestions for my next steps. Thanks, ~Michelle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/385.1 Message Board Post: Hello Jo, These addresses should be helpful: http://www.vitalrec.com/micounties2.html Jackson County Clerk 312 S. Jackson St. Jackson, MI 49201 (517) 788-4265 Jackson County Genealogical Society c/o Jackson District Library 244 W. Michigan Ave. Jackson, MI 49201

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BGB.2ACI/386 Message Board Post: Could someone tell me where it was lpcated?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/382.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Cheryl, I can't thank you enough! Mary Donovan is my gg-grandmother. She is in the 1880 census living with her son and his family. I will send for Mary's death certificate. You have cracked a brick wall for me. Please keep me in mind if you come across the name Donovan/ Donnovan again. :-) Thanks again, Anne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/383.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I forgot to tell you that I found an obituary for a Lela Harsch in the Jackson files. I'm not really sure if this fits in with your family or not. This woman was born in 1901, which fits, but the obituary calls her Mrs. Harsch which doesn't fit. I'll let you decide: Jackson Citizen Patriot April 7, 1976 Harsch, Lela C - 2945 Charlotte St. passed away Wednesday, April 7, 1976 at Foote Hospital East, aged 75 years. Surviving are one sister, Mrs. Lillian Muston of Indianapolis, Ind.; several nieces and nephews. She was a retired employee of Sparks Worthington and a member of the Old Timers Club, Mrs. Harsch is at the Chas J Burden & Son Funeral Home, 1806-1814 E. Michigan Ave. where services will be held Friday, 1:00 p.m. Interment Hillcrest Dr. Merle D. Brovies offficiating.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/382.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The writing was pretty bad on the index, but this is what I think was there: Julia Donovan Sep 25 or 28 1876 Bridget Donovan Dec 19, 1877 Charles Donovan, Jr. April 25, 1880 There was also a death of a Mary Donovan on October 7, 1887 She was 84. She lived in Grass Lake. She died of old age. She was born in Ireland. I thought that this might be Charles Donovan, Sr's mother since he was living with a 69 year old Mary Donovan in the 1870 census. I looked for an obituary for her, but no luck. Hope some of this helps.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BGB.2ACI/383.1.1 Message Board Post: I am not sure if Anthony and Anna were married in Jackson...I just assumed since the rest of the family came from there, it was Jackson....I have a relative that may beable to give me more info....I was told Anthony came to America when he was 5. His son Harry Phillip was born in Jackson, so I thought that was where Anthony married.....I will keep digging...thanks for the response.....families sure are mysteries sometimes!~

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Donovan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/382.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Cheryl, Thank you for trying. I have Charles Donovan's birth and death certificates. They both give his mother's maiden name as Donovan. I would appreciate having the birth index info you found on the other children. Maybe their birth certificates will help me. Thanks again! Anne

Hello all, I just received the pension file on Christian Schumacher who married Jennette (Taylor) Walling. This line has been very confusing to say the least so this inch thick pension file which was chock full of information verified some of the information that wonderful volunteers helped me locate. I have documented up to Christian Schumacher who I will refer to for ease in keeping them seperated as Jr but no where on any documents was he referred to as such. I have Christian's death certificate but he was born too early for a birth certificate. I am trying to find out positively who his parents were. I feel it might be the Christian Sr. who was married to Ann M. or Maria Ann but I have not found anything that I can document it with other than the death certificate and that only confused matters. If there is anyone out there who loves a great mystery I would love to hear from you including those who were so wonderfully helpful before. I am sending this to both counties since the family lived in both during their lifetimes. If you connect or are interested in our web page concerning this family the url is near the end of the email. Thanks so much for any and all help you can provide. If you have any suggestions on other documents I could send for please let me know. Have a wonderful day Bushy Hartman ********************* Item #1 >From the pension file the following items were mentioned about the birth of Christian Schumacher: "My father was born was raised on Liberty and First streets" [This provided by his daughter in a later letter but no mention of his parents names or his actual birth date. From the city directories Christian b. 1828 was living on Liberty and Second Streets.] ********************* Item #2 "brother in law by marriage" was on two documents signed by Christian Schumacher and John Schumacher on affidavits for Jennett to receive the pension once Christian her husband had died. [How can a bro-in-law be named the same as the husband? Could this be her father-in-law who was still living when his son died?] ********************* Item #3 Death certificate has his parents as Christian Schumacher and Catherine Schumacher both born in Germany. I did not find any other Schumacher/Shoemakers in the same area and Catherine was married to Frederick and mother of the Senior Christian who was married to Ann M. or Maria Ann from death cards. Is it possible the person who provided the information could of mistaken his father and grandmother names as his parents? ********************** Item #4 Census- I could not find in the census where Christian [Jr.] is living with his family. ********************** Item #5 Mary Henderson who uncovered that Jennette Taylor married Peter B. Walling and had three children Eudora, Ford and Eugene. Peter abandoned Jennette which mentions this in the pension file and he took her children with him to live in Wayne Co., MI before 1870 census with his parents. The pension file contains a documents showing that: "Peter B. Walling was admitted to the Insane Asylum on 10 Oct 1881 and died 17 Oct 1882." Jennette claims there was a divorce but could not remember where her ex-husband was living at the time and could not provide the divorce documents. The pension file contains: Jennette Taylor married Christian Schumacher[Jr.] on 11 Jan 1866 in Smithfield Center, Washtenaw Co., MI. I have not sent for this document yet is the location the correct county? ********************* http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcguirecuz/ McGuire Cousins which also contains the Schumacher line along with several others in separate ancestry files. There are scanned documents and some photos along with headstone photos. Frederick Schumacher b. 2 Apr 1812 Ger.; d. 31 Dec 1849 ..m. Catherine Afeichardt b. 8 Dec 1808 Ger.; d. 24 Jan 1875 ...ch: Christian Schumacher b. 23 Dec 1828 Ger.; d. 13 May 1897 .....m. Ann M. ____, b. 1833 Ger., d. ......ch: Christian Schumacher b. 14 Oct 1844, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., MI; d. 15 Jul 1886, Jackson Co., MI ..........m. Jennette (Taylor) Walling, b. Nov 1837 NY; d. 11 Jan 1866 Jackson Co., MI

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/383.1 Message Board Post: I looked up Anthony Harsch and Anna Clement in the marriage index at the library. I don't find a record of it. Are you sure they were married in Jackson County?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/382.1 Message Board Post: I checked the marriage index at the library for the 1870's. I didn't find a marriage record for Charles Donovan. I did find birth records for several children. The mother's maiden name was not given. I also found Charles Donovan in the 1860 census in Grass Lake with Mary Donovan, 69. Sorry.

Hi, I'm new to the list, and looking for info on Johnson SPONSLER b. 1883 in Ohio. Through many twists and turns, I've discovered that my Emma CAMPBELL may have married Johnson after his first wife M. Icy (b.1884 in OH) died between 1923-30. The family lived in Leoni from 1918-1930 (at least). Johnson and his first wife had 7 children: 1. Lowell b. 1905 in OH 2. Russell b. 1907 in OH 3. Monola (sp?) b. 1910 in OH 4. James b. 1913 in MI 5. Maud b. 1915 in MI 6. Mary b. 1917 in MI 7. Margarite b. 1920, d. bef. 1923 in Leoni My main interest is in Emma, who I found with Johnson in the 1930 census, along with his children from his previous marriage to Icy. I also found Johnson living on Route 9 in the 1918-1923 Jackson County Directory. He was listed as a carpenter with 6 children. At the time his wife was listed as M. Icy. Emma Campbell b. 1884 in Michigan. Parents both b. Canada. Brother named John F. Campbell b. 1873 in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Emma was named in her brother's obit in 1948 as married to Johnson Sponsler in Leoni. Is anyone else doing research on this family? ~Michelle

Is there a local newspaper for Jackson, Jackson, Michigan?? If so, what is the address?? e-mail and/or postal?? phone number?? and what is the name of the newspaper?? THANK YOU ! Evelyn oden@cdsnet.net

Does Michigan have a death index?? I am trying to find an exact date of death for the following: Edward Dybas b. 1919 d. March of 1981 maybe in Jackson, Jackson, Michigan Thank you for any help you can give me! Evelyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/385 Message Board Post: If I drive up to the Jackson County Courthouse to find birth, death and marriage records for my ancestors, can someone tell me if they allow patrons to go through the books, etc. to find what they need? Do they have index files? Or, do we have to put in requests for certain people and dates and wait while they get the big books off the shelf and look for it themselves? I've been to several county courthouses and they all do it differently. I hate to drive all the way up there (I live in Ohio) and not be able to get what I want/need. At the moment, I only have a birth date for one ancestor but if I could go through their records, I'm guessing I'd find other people who are related and if that's the case, it would be well worth my time to drive up. Thanks for any advice.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Griffith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BGB.2ACI/384 Message Board Post: If there is anyone who would check for the birth record of Ernest Griffith, born 20 Jan 1893, in Jackson to Nettie Griffith, I would be so thankful. Rumor has it that Nettie was married but I am not positive. Any information on the record would be helpful and appreciated! Not only by me but by countless relatives who are finally all getting as excited about the family tree as I've been. I live near the Ohio Genealogical Society and would be happy to repay the favor. Thank you for any help. Jo Phillips

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BGB.2ACI/341.1 Message Board Post: I am interested in what State where your Quivey's located. I am researching Robert E. Quivey who married Augusta Burns in Kosciusko County, Indiana 8/9/1868. They appear in the 1870 Indiana Census with daughter Maud (b 1869). They also had Grace and Claude.

Dear Listers: Some of you may receive this letter more than once if you are on more than one county List in Michigan. I apologize for any inconvience this may cause you. I believe we all should be made aware of what is beginning to become a problem with our cemeteries through out Michigan. Yesterday, Detroit News Metro/State Section carried a news article about the City of Lansing wanting to reclaim thousand of unused gravesites so that they may resell them to bring money into their government. As the City of Jackson, Michigan has already done this and has netted them three hundred thousand dollars, we as descendants of the families who are buried in Michigan Cemeteries need to stand up as one to put a stop to this unlawful event. Yes, we have many old and historical cemeteries through out Michigan and its many counties, cities, towns, villages but I do not believe that any of these governments have the right to take back what your ancestors paid for with their blood, sweat, and tears. Our ancestors paid for these graves to be used by our families, not to be taken back from the descendants of these people who paid for these graves. Yes, families move and shift around the country and thus we leave unused grave sites but I believe that these unused sites should remain in the families of the people who are buried in these plots that have unused sites. I own plots in three different cemeteries in the State of Michigan and since I hold title to them that has been passed down from my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents does not give the city, town, county, or state the right to confiscate them to resell them at their gain. There is no way that my husband and I will utilize all of these gravesites but since I have the titles to theses plots I intend handing them down to my children to be used after our deaths and burial. In order to keep from having this event occur anywhere in our State, we as the family historians and genealogists need to stand up and voice our opinions and let these governments know that we won't stand for this thievery. We need to contact the Michigan Governor and the Senators and the House Representatives, the county executives, city mayors to let them know that we are going to protect our ancestoral burial sites from them. So what I am asking is for help here. With each one of us contacting the cemeteries in which your loved ones were laid to rest find out if there are unused spaces and find out how to go about getting the titles to these plots so that the government cannot take them and then resell them at inflated prices back to the public. Yes, the City of Lansing states they they are going to search for descendants but they already are in financial trouble and therefore could not afford to research and search out the owners or descendants of these family plots as it would cost a small fortune. As we all know the government states they will do one thing and they do entirely a different thing. Your ancestors that date back to the beginning of the State of Michigan only paid a few dollars for these plots which many hold 8, 10, 12 sites in each plot but it was their hard earned money not the governments money taht paid for these plots. Cemeteries are sacred ground and should not be desecrated by anyone including the governments of these cities, towns, villages, counties, and or State. Yes, our ancestors may have only paid 30.00-50.00 per plot but the going prices for these same lots today can bring in as much as four thousand dollars or more depending on where they are at. Checking the Want Ads this a.m. where I live the cheapest lots were going for $2,345.00 each. So you see the government will really be making a killing on these unused plots that our ancestors paid for and they want to take them away from the family descendants. What will happen if you live out of state and have not been contacted and a family member dies and you are going to bury them in the family plot only to find out that it has been sold out from under you without your permission to do this? So please list members write letters, email them, write to the newspapers to the governor and the senators, and representatives, county executives, mayors and let them know we are not going to allow this to go any further and also make the City of Jackson return the monies they made off of the resale of these private plots. I am including email addresses in which you can write to the two major newspapers in Michigan and I am also giving you email addresses for other government officials. To write to the newspapers: letters@freepress.com letteers@detnews.com www.LSJ.com click on the website and then click on the "contact us" and write your letters. Lansing State Journal Write to your local and county newspapers, let them know how you feel about what these governments are trying to do. Protect your cemeteries and your ancestral burial sites from these thieves before it is too late and they destroy them all because of their greediness. Write to the Governor of Michigan Janet Granholm by going to www.michigan.gov then register your email address and then click on Online Forms and Feedback and then write your letter. To address your letters to the Senators and House members address it like this JohnDoe@house.mi.gov putting the name of your house representative in place of John Doe. For the Senate you address is as JohnDoe@senate.michigan.gov putting your state senators name in place of John Doe. write to your county executive, mayors in the same way. If you want to fax a letter to the Governor of Michigan here is the number 1-517-373-3400 Lets get this out in the open so that everyone knows what is going on. We need to defend our ancestors final resting places and to retain them as they are now and not allow the government to sell them off. If we let them get away with this this time what will they do next? Dig up the bones and dump them in a garbage dump because they will stand to get more moeny from reselling these plots. I say NO! Dont' let them do this. Jean Payton