This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/564.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am sorry, but I am confused by what you have written. Mainly, why do you think your grandfather is a son (or grandson) of Okemos. When was your grandfather born? All the children that I know of Chief Okemos I can account for. Thanks, Jim.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/564.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I believe that Chief Okemos had visited one Hiram Haynes of Williamston, MI. They knew each other. Hiram was friendly to the Chippewas who camped close to his home. He took them food in the winter. I believe that Hiram found a child/baby and wanted to raise the child, as he had lost several children of his own, but his wife Sarah did not want him(perhaps due to the time(1877, the year after Little Big Horn, or perhaps some other reason.) They divorced in 1878 and Hiram married a lady named Clara. My grandfather was raised by Morris Haynes and Mary Geer/Gear/Greer(on the birth and death certs, it is spelled Geer). Morris was a possible relative of Hiram. Hiram had a son named Morris. I am trying to find the names of Harry Haynes's biological parents(which is probably impossible). My grandfather met my grandmother, Myrtle Rose Keeney around 1903-1905, in Chesapeake, Ohio. I don't know why he went to Ohio then, but he and Myrtle had two children, Faye(1905) and my mother, Carol C.(1907). He did not know about my mother, as he had left Ohio before then. He was supposedly driven off by my great aunt, Annie Belle Keeney, at least that is what she told my mother when we went to see her when she was very old. My mother never knew her father. I have done a lot of research trying to find my grandfather's Indian heritage. According to my research, Chief Okemos had children and it just seems logical that my grandfather COULD be one of them or a grandchild. Maybe I am completely off track but my reasearch seems to point in that direction. Native American geneaology is very difficult. Any information would be useful. Hiram had taken a trip to Calf. He ma! y have met Clara's father there. Incidently, my grandfather, Harry J. Haynes is buried in St. Petersburg, Fl. He has no grave marker. His birth place is listed as Fenton, Mich. He was raised in Clio, and later lived with his mother, Sarah, in Detroit. He came to Fl. around 1945, I believe, and was married twice before he died in 1966. In his obituary, my grandmother was never mentioned, nor did she ever talk about him. She did carry his name but I have never found any record of their marriage, (at least not yet). I haven't done much research lately as I have had other priorities). In the 1910 census of Chesapeake, Ohio, Myrtle and her children were living with her parents, Lorenzo and LeahAnn Keeney. She was listed as a Widow! Probably to save face and embarassment. If you need any more details, please just E-mail me directly. Thank you and God bless you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KENDALL, POSTLEWAIT, BLAKE, NIEMAN, HAYDEN, ONTKO, VRABCAK, RICHARDSON, OLIVITT, BLAKE, STANLEY, MELLO Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1726 Message Board Post: KENDALL, Irene M. Age 75, Of Bradenton, FL, and formerly of Port Clinton, OH Died Saturday, March 25, 2006 at Riverview Healthcare Campus, Cottage Cove, Oak Harbor, OH. She was born on May 24, 1930 in Lansing, MI to John and Mary (Postlewait) Blake. On March 12, 1949 in Angola, IN, she married Alonzo B. Kendall, and he preceded her in death on August 8, 2001. Irene was a 5th grade teacher for Bataan Elementary School for 25 years, retiring in 1992. She was a member of Immaculate Conception Catholic Church, Port Clinton, OH. Irene was a liturgical artist, a member of the Altar Rosary Society, a member of the St. Vincent DePaul Society and a Eucharistic Minister. Through the church she taught CCD classes for 5-7 years, RCIA, line dancing, and water aerobics. Survivors include daughters, Celia "Cees" Kendall of Anaheim, CA, Denise (Donald) Nieman of Port Clinton, OH, Susan (Jim) Hayden of Holbrook, AZ, Linda (Randy) Ontko of Phoenix, AZ, and Laurie (Dick) Vrabcak of Hendersonville, TN; son, Alan (Kae) Kendall of Tyler, TX; 7 grandchildren; 7 great-gran! dchildren; and sister, Isabel Richardson, of Jacksonville, FL. Irene was preceded in death by her parents; husband; brothers, Gail Olvitt, Louis Olvitt, Leo Olvitt and John Blake; and sisters, Mary Stanley and June Mello. A Mass of Christian Burial will be conducted by Father Raymond Ensman at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday, March 29, 2006, where there will be visitation from 9:30 a.m. until the time of the service, at Immaculate Conception Catholic Church, Port Clinton, OH. Visitation will be conducted from 5:30 until 7:30 p.m. on Tuesday evening in the Gerner-Wolf-Walker Funeral Home, 216 Washington St., Port Clinton, OH 43452 (419.732.3121), and one hour prior to Mass at church. Interment will be in Riverview Cemetery, Port Clinton, OH. The family suggests that memorial contributions, in Irene's name, be given to the Immaculate Conception School. Online condolences may be shared with the family at www.walker funeralhomes.com Published in the Kalamazoo Gazette on 3/28/2006. (Posted by a VOLUNTEER-NO family connection)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Willoughby and/or Hoffman - Holt, Delhi Township, Ingham County Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/962.1 Message Board Post: I am trying to trace the Willoughby family name from Herkimer, Herkimer County, NY, to Lake County, Ohio, to Delhi Township, Ingham County, Michigan. I have ancestors that traveled this same path, and I am trying to find out the connection. The town of Willoughby in Lake County, Ohio, is said to have been named for a doctor in Herkimer, NY, where my Hoffman ancestors originated (at least as far back as I can go). This same Hoffman family found its way to Holt from Ohio, and I've noticed Willoughby road in Holt and have now begun to find that persons of that surname have lived in Holt also. Anyone know of a connection between the Willoughby's of Herkimer, NY, and Holt, MI?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ANDREW/ROBBINS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1725 Message Board Post: Looking for information on ANDREW C. ANDERSON from Lansing Michigan He was born on March 19-1893 in Mt. orris Michigan. He married GLADYS ROBBINS. ANDREW died I think on MAY 12-1920 They had three sons ALBERT---ANDREW---ALLEN---and one daug. FREDA I hope that someone can help me out thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hFB.2ACE/1721.3 Message Board Post: I have heard (but can't substatiate the rumor) that Michigan did not issue formal birth certificates until the 1930's.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hFB.2ACE/1721.2 Message Board Post: I have heard (but can't substatiate the rumor) that Michigan did not issue formal birth certificates until the 1930's.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1724 Message Board Post: For those interested the April 26 meeting of the Mid-Michigan Genealogy Society will feature speaker Gene Wilkins talking about the Bath School disaster. More info on the Society can be found here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mimmgs/ Jim

Hi Joan, You can find Michigan cemetery tombstone pics at http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/michigan/mitstable.htm. Lansing is Ingham county. Also, the Lansing (Ingham) Municipal Cemetery's office number is 517-483- 4303. They handle the Mt. Hope, Evergreen and North cemeteries. You could call and see if they have any info. I voluntarily take pics out at those cemeteries and submit them to the Michigan Tombstone Project. If you find out he is located at one of these cemeteries I can get you a picture if you tell me the location. Hope this info helps. Terri Lindemann ---------- Original Message ----------- From: jshoffner@earthlink.net To: MIINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 21 Mar 2006 13:51:53 -0700 Subject: [MIINGHAM] Sage Death Date > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Sage > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1723 > > Message Board Post: > > I am looking for the death date and cemetery where > Elmer Corey Sage is Buired.He died 1928 in Lansing,Michigan.Hope > someone can help me.Thanks Joan > > ==== MIINGHAM Mailing List ==== > Find out about the benefits of joining the Mid-Michigan Genealogical > Society at http://userdata.acd.net/mmgs/mmgssoc.html , or the Ingham > County Genealogical Society at > http://userdata.acd.net/mmgs/icgs.html . > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ------- End of Original Message -------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sage Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1723 Message Board Post: I am looking for the death date and cemetery where Elmer Corey Sage is Buired.He died 1928 in Lansing,Michigan.Hope someone can help me.Thanks Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Duffy Classification: Birth Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1721.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the information. That helps me understand better.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1721.1 Message Board Post: The info on the certificate comes from ledger books - so what you got is what is in the book. Back in 1885, there were few, if any, standards as to what information would have been entered. I have never seen one (and have been through Ingham County's books looking for my ancestors) that gave more than parents' names and township they lived in. I suppose for a very recent immigrant to the area, they might say where they were from. Marriage records from then were not much better, though those give ages. Your next option is to look for church records - baptism, etc. A death certificate, being more recent, might be helpful, although the information on that comes from whoever reported - often a relative - and is only as accurate as they knew or were willing to tell. Also, newspapers of the time and place - the State Library in Lansing has a lot on microfilm. Look for wills of relatives that might mention your great-grandmother. That is what makes genealogy so frustrating - and interesting. You have to piece it together.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DAUGHERTY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1722 Message Board Post: Hello all, I'm searching for parents of JOSEPH ALFRED DAUGHERTY, b. 10 October 1848 "in Lansing, MI," supposedly of Irish parents. By 1881, he had relocated to Springfield MO. He died 6v May, 1893 in Neosho, MO. Any help/hints would be greatly appreciated. Cornelia van Aken in California (Joseph Alfred Daugherty/Pearl Eva Daugherty Smith/Dorothy Eva Smith van Aken)

I do not have the date Of death of Elmer Cory Sage lived in Lansing,Mich in 1930.Living with Nathan Sage.Nathan died in 1956.Elmer was born in McArthur Vinton Co.Ohio Son of Robert& Jane Sage. Hope someone wouuld help me Thanks.Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Duffy Classification: Birth Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1721 Message Board Post: Does anyone know what information, if any, was asked on original birth certificates in the 1880's? Addresses, parents ages, employment? I recently requested a copy of a birth certificate for my great grandmother. She was born in Bunker Hill on 03 Jan 1885. I knew her name, Mary C Duffy, and when and where she was born. I also knew her parents names. When I received the certified copy of her birth certificate I was dismayed to find it only contained the information that I had already provided. Why did my copy not contain more information? At the very least, I would think the persons full name at birth would be put on the copy of the birth certificate. For instance, my g grandmother...I know her name to be Mary C Duffy. But what does that "C" stand for? Surely her original birth certificate did not read Mary "C" Duffy. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks, Cathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pocock Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hFB.2ACE/1720 Message Board Post: I am looking for the obituary of my uncle Thomas Grover Pocock who died in Lansing, Michigan on August 8, 1973. Is there someone who could do a look up for me? Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: OGG, GLOVER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1719 Message Board Post: does anyone know if there is a book one can look up grave information for Evergreen Cem. in Lansing Mi. I have a cousin there, need dates on stones. Time frame is l950 for one cousin, 1961 for another. Do not need photo. Section & row and data on stone I would like.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1718 Message Board Post: All you need to do is Click this Link. http://xsorbit27.com/users5/internetmall/index.php/topic,93.0 I would post details here, but there are to many. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1717 Message Board Post: Looking for brother, Michael Phillips, last known to be living in Lansing in the 1960s. Michael was born in the 1940s in Lansing area. Son of Marvin and Mary. Thanks for any help in reconnecting with Michael.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johnston, Scribner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hFB.2ACE/1716 Message Board Post: My ancestors are from the Leslie and Onondaga area. Looking for any descendants of Merritt and Esther (Scribner) JOHNSTON. I have found that they are buried in Lane cemetery, but cemetery records were destroyed and couldn't gain any more information. They had a total of 15 children and I was hoping some of their descensants may still be in the area. Any help would be greatly appreciated. (Their children weere: Barney, Dennsi, Emily, Almyra, Charlot, Marcus, Mary Anne, Lois, Roxey, Henry, Dianthus, Billy and 3 more that have not been identified as of yet)