--WebTV-Mail-24190-1729 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Now---this is a worthwhile pass-a-long --WebTV-Mail-24190-1729 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-8.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.42) by storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by mailsorter-101-8.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id IAA13538 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:01:41 -0700 (PDT) From: [email protected] Received: from [email protected] by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id 2.9.9f6fdd9 (3948); Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:01:04 EDT Subject: Fwd: (no subject) To: [email protected] CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_9.9f6fdd9.26dd2a30_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 114 --part1_9.9f6fdd9.26dd2a30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_9.9f6fdd9.26dd2a30_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Full-name: Lk2her Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:47:16 EDT Subject: Fwd: (no subject) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_9.9f6fdd9.26daf474_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 120 --part2_9.9f6fdd9.26daf474_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 08/25/2000 6:44:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, FOREPAC writes: << Our Senators and Congressmen don't pay in to Social Security, and, of course, they don't collect from it. 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A retirement plan that works so well, that Railroad employees, Postal Workers, and others who aren't in it, would clamor to get in. That is how good Social Security could be, if only one small change were made... That change is to jerk the Golden Fleece retirement out from under the Senators and Congressmen, and put them in Social Security with the rest of us. Then - watch how fast they fix it! If enough people receive this, maybe one or some of them along the way, might be able to help. How many can YOU send it to? Pass this along, to as many people as you can so as many can read this, as possible. --part2_9.9f6fdd9.26daf474_boundary-- --part1_9.9f6fdd9.26dd2a30_boundary-- --WebTV-Mail-24190-1729--

Hi everyone, The following URL goes to a page I put together that has some pictures on it. At first I was told they were members of the Harkness family, but then I was told they were members of the Wright family. Now, I don't know what to believe. I do know they came from Ingham Co., MI. Can anyone identify them? If so, please let me know! Also, I've included close ups of the lapel pin worn by one of the gentlemen pictured. Can anyone identify it? The URL is http://www.jacowd.com/pics/pictures.htm Thanks! Christy [email protected]

I'm looking for some assistance with page 73 of the 1850 U.S. Census for Ingham Co., MI. I would appreciate it if anyone who has access to the information on this page could give me the complete entries for Stephen MEAD, John H. CHILD/CHILDS, and any other CHILD/CHILDS that might appear on the page. Also, would anybody happen to know who the first person was to be buried in Maple Grove Cemetery, Mason, MI? Best Regards, Sally BOLSTER HOLCOMBE <[email protected]> Researching: ALVORD, BIDWELL, BODENSTEIN, BOLSTER, BULLARD, CAREY, CHILDS, CONVERSE, DAVEY, DELANEY, EDDY, EDWARDS, ELITHORPE, ESTABROOK, GRANT, HARVEY, HATHAWAY, HOLCOMBE, LAWHEAD, LYON, MENHENNICK, MERTZ, POLKINGHORNE, REYNOLDS, RODDA, SATTERTHWAITE, SMITH, TUCKER, TURNER, WARREN, WEBB, WEEKS, WHITE, WILLIAMS, WOLFE.

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I am new to this list ,I am doing a search on my husband grandparents.First we have found the spelling of last name two different ways.On my mother in-law birth cerf.its spelled Wilbur and on her fathers son death cerf. its spelled Wilber. Grandparents name: 1.Horace Wilbur or (Wilber) born:1863 ,death unknown 2.Lena May Miles Wilbur or Wilber born 1882,death unknown They had 2 children: 1.Bernice Wilbur,born:1901,died 1972,married a Cecil Rich,they lived in Lansing. 2,Vera Wilbur,born 1907,died 1982 Horace was married before to a: Jennie Tschierse they had a son named:Burr Wilber,born1887,death 1957. If anyone on this list knows about them please let me know. Thanks, June [email protected]

The 96th Reunion of the DAGUE families will be held Sunday, August 20, 2000 at Sunset Lake, east of Spencer, Ohio. The meal is at 1pm. Come early and stay late. Bring a well-filled picnic basket and table service. Beverages will be furnished. Anyone connected to the DAGUE family is invited to attend. Carole Schetter, Historian Some names associated with this family are: MEAD, SMITH, ARNOLD SWIHART (SWINEHART), HARSH, ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Morning, Most of this info comes from word of mouth from my wife's paternal grandmother. In my father-in-laws baby book was a nice family tree, though it was only limited to the direct line. I can share what I know of the family below. Unfortunately, I've not found the Michigan census here local as of yet. My wife, for references sake, is a great-granddaughter of Harry HUNT. Thanx in advance for any leads or help you could offer. Jim SHREVE Sr. Modified Register for Hiram D LEE First Generation 1. Hiram D LEE was born in New Haven, Ct. He died 1911. Hiram married Elizabeth BELL on 1 Nov 1860 in Washtenaw, Mi. Elizabeth was born in Lincolnshire, England. She died 1912. They had the following children: + 2M i. Frederick Thomas LEE was born 1873 and died 1945. Second Generation 2. Frederick Thomas LEE (Hiram D) was born 1873 in Leslie, Ingham County, MI. He died 1945. Frederick married Carolyn Belle SHELTRANE, daughter of John Smith SHELTRANE. Carolyn was born 1874 in Fremont, Newaygo County, MI. She died 1943. They had the following children: 3F i. Nina Mildred LEE was born 1905 in Leslie, Ingham County, MI. She died about 1976. Nina married Harry HUNT, son of Melvin HUNT and Minnie EVERT. Harry was born in Farmington, Oakland County, MI. He died about 1982. 4M ii. Harold LEE. Harold married Dorothy. 5M iii. Robert LEE. 6F iv. Lena LEE.

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Do you know about where they lived. There are many old cemetaries , and if you want I can see if I find any of there graves and maybe pick up some more names for you. Or do you stil live in Locke township. cindi

Seeking family/descendants of Leeland Morgan UHL who died in Lansing, MI, in 1965. He had been born in Cleveland in 1888 to George and Gertrude Morgan UHL. There may be a relationship with Lucinda UHL and Charles UHL who born in Michigan in the 1890's

Seeking descendants of Joseph Jackson who md. Clarissa Jane Colf and settled in Locke Twp by 1845. Joseph b. 1818 in NY; and Clarissa b. 1823 in Monroe Co, NY. They married in 1844 in Shiawassee Co, Mich. Their children w/birthdates in Locke Twp. were: Euncie (1845) Franklin C. (1848) Ellen Isadora (1853 Emma I. (1858) Ida (1863) Mary (1862)

Is there anyone on this list that would do an obituary look-up? HAROLD LETTS Residence: 49402 Walhalla, Mason, MI Born 3 Feb 1908 Died Mar 1982 I would gladly exchange a look-up in the FHL in Salt Lake City. Barbara Lewis _______________________________________________________ Site Design, Hosting, and E-Commerce at www.webpipe.net

I have a listing for RANSOM SABIN, SR. (b. 1795), his wife, JANE MILLER SABIN (b. 1801); his son, RANSOM NEIL SABIN (RANSOM SABIN, JR) (b. 1836) and his new wife ANNE E. PRINE SABIN (listed as E. Ann Sabin; b. 1836) for Aurelius Township for Ingham County for 1860. I also have information that by 1870 Ransom Sabin, Sr. and his wife were living with their son CHARLES SABIN, who also lived in Aurelius Township. I'd appreciate any information on the Sabin family or on Aurelius Township.

Thanks to everyone for all the responses and taking the time to actually call the cemetery. Appreciate your help. Regina > > Regina wrote: > > > Does anyone have information or a resource they can look up or provide > > me a number to call the North Cemetery. > > > > I am looking for a plot with a Female named Mrs. Blank. I am searching > > on who she is buried next to. My grandmother apparently had a plot and > > gave it to someone...who just may be related. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Regina Place > > > > ==== MIINGHAM Mailing List ==== > > Information about resources at the Library of Michigan can be found at > http://www.libofmich.lib.mi.us/index.html . > >

Regina, called North Cemetery (517) 483-4303 talked with "Julie" North Cemetery was recently annexed (1960) by Lansing. It was previously in Delhi. It is located basically on the corner of Miller and So. Pennsylvania, kind of behind Pet Supplies & Kinko's. She did not know of an actual address. To locate a site, contact Julie, number above. Previous date records, before Lansing acquired, were destroyed in a fire. Lansing Genealogy group (?) went through and copied information. Hope this helps, Kitty W. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Sorry...The North Cemetery is in Lansing MI.....offa Miller Road. Regina wrote: > Does anyone have information or a resource they can look up or provide > me a number to call the North Cemetery. > > I am looking for a plot with a Female named Mrs. Blank. I am searching > on who she is buried next to. My grandmother apparently had a plot and > gave it to someone...who just may be related. > > Thanks! > > Regina Place > > ==== MIINGHAM Mailing List ==== > Information about resources at the Library of Michigan can be found at http://www.libofmich.lib.mi.us/index.html . > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Does anyone have information or a resource they can look up or provide me a number to call the North Cemetery. I am looking for a plot with a Female named Mrs. Blank. I am searching on who she is buried next to. My grandmother apparently had a plot and gave it to someone...who just may be related. Thanks! Regina Place

My husband grew up in Mason, Mi. He does remember the name of Childs...Might I suggest a call to the MASON Public Library ---or the County clerk .I believe Mason is the county seat .Ask if there is a local historian; if they do not know who is the present caretaker in charge of records of cemetery. AND hope you get a chatty answerer. Another thought---a local funeral home might be able to answer who they deal with when opening a grave...etc Florence NJ

Jacob Miller married Mary Elizabeth Monroe probably in Dekalb Co., Indiana in late 1800's He was born there in 1843. They move to Okemos, MI along with son William Miller. He married Editha ? Other children of Jacob: Nettie, Inez, Myrtie, Bertha, Dave, Frank, Maud, and Mary Elizabeth. This last Mary Elizabeth b-1873, married Thomas Fetters and lived in Newago County, MI. I know theirs onward. Would like to know more of these Millers. Dan Fetters Hope, MI Surnames: BURGESS, HAVENS, RAY, BISSETT, YOUNG, CARGILL, DRAGOO, FETTER (s), FEATHER, FORTMAN, KATTERMAN, LAYMAN, LEBO-LEBEAU-LABEAU, MILLER, MURPHY, ST. JOHN, SLICE-SLISE, SWITZER, VETTER, WHITE, WILLIAMS NB>NS>MI PA, MD>WV>IN>MI GERMANY, FRANCE, SWITZERLAND, IRELAND, SCOTLAND, ENGLAND, CANADA, AMERICA

I'm trying to locate the burial dates and sites of burial of my g-X-2-grandparents, John H. CHILDS [b. 1811, NY; d. 29 Nov 1879, Alaiedon TWP, Ingham Co., MI] and Hannah J. CONVERSE CHILDS [b. 1830, VT; d. aft 1886, Ingham Co., MI]. I have several reasons for thinking that they might be buried in or near Mason. Would anybody on MIINGHAM-L have a list of the sextons of the cemeteries in or near Mason? Best Regards, Sally BOLSTER HOLCOMBE