This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1272.1 Message Board Post: i am the ggrandson of clifford sangre and minnie schramm. clifford was from l'anse and i was tolf that he was married before he married my grandmother minnie. if this is the same person pleas let me know the date would be about right.