I would like to share my opinion right or wrong...when I STARTED..I had no Idea what was available on line OR even how to find it....but some kind soul helped me, guided me, taught me...so now I do know...THEN someone told me, showed me, taught me, guided me about LDS and all that they had and how I thrived....and when I could helped others that was new and was their mentor.. now it is many, many years later BUT now I can not drive to my LDS..or Library and my other favorite spots...so sometimes I have to ask for alittle help..not because I'm lazy..but because I do not have the means to do so myself...So to everyone that has been a mentor...gave advise, did a look up and gave a clue, been patient...THANK YOU...You have been someones angel...you made a difference in their life!! Happy hunting :-) Carylon Edward G Viuhkola Carylon Osborn Viuhkola viuhkola@clatskanie.com "I'm Proud to be an American Where at least I know I'm FREE GOD bless the U. S. A." Visit my Web pages http://mywebpage.netscape.com/viuhkolacarylon/ClarenceOsborn.html http://mywebpage.netscape.com/viuhkolacarylon/williamosborn.html http://mywebpage.netscape.com/viuhkolacarylon/osbornalpheusindex.html Old genealogist never die, They just loose their census!