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    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] KOLJONEN family of New York Mills, Otter Tail, MN, (and probably Houghton Co., MI) related to Phillip Andrew Koljonen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CStanley84 Surnames: Luusua Ahola Olson Olsen Anderson Peterson Petersen Pederson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/2437.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am connected to the LUUSUA family through my hubby. It is one of his lines. Phillip's mother, Eva, was a sister to Ida Marie Luusua. Ida married Stephan Olsen Ahola and they had 10 children together, before she died of T.B. in Allouez, MI. The children were split up during her illness and after her death. Most of them used the surname of Olson, as their father did, after several years in the US. One daughter, Jennie P. (Ahola) Olson, went to live with the Anderson family, of Norway, in Calumet. Later she married their only son, who changed the name to Peterson and later, Pederson. My husband is descended from that line. Generations later, some descendants spell the surname as Peterson, others Pederson, and still others - Petersen. A few dropped the name completely and adopted another. All of the above named people originally lived in the Arctic Circle of Finland and Norway. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/07/2009 05:21:56
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] KOLJONEN family of New York Mills, Otter Tail, MN, (and probably Houghton Co., MI) related to Phillip Andrew Koljonen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaJBergan Surnames: Koljonen, Luusua (Losoa), Muckala, Ruonaniemi, Keskikallio Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/2437.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Its nice to have such a quick reply, thank you. Can I ask how you are related to the Koljonen and Luusua families? I have found that on my paternal grandfather's side, the Muckala side, they were constantly going back and forth to the upper peninsula. I spent a lot of time reading the New York Mills newspapers on file at the Minnesota History Center years ago. I discovered one of the reasons was church-related. They went up there to study and be confirmed. I think they also had family there although when my great-grandfather moved to Minnesota, all of his children moved too, even those who were already married. I have not found a Sami connection on that side although they came from the same area in Norway as the Koljonen and Luusua families. My Grandma Rachel kept in contact with the relatives in Norway and I have corresponded with a cousin, Randi-Irene Losoa, for many years. We do have a site on myfamily.com that many of the relatives on both sides of the ocean are on. If you have Luusua, Koljonen or Muckala ancestry I would be glad to invite you. Some members are excellent photographers and there are some great pictures posted every now and then. Fortunately, the Norwegians all speak good English! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/07/2009 04:23:33
    1. [MIHOUGHT] John Kaarre (Kaare, Kaaret,etc.)
    2. Does anyone know who was responsible for filing death notices with the counties and state in the year 1901?  We've searched and searched for my grandfather's death certificate and can't find it.  We know he was buried on December 4, 1901 in Lake View Cemetery in Calumet but would like to know when, where and why he died.  Any suggestions would be appreciated. Margot Karr Wells

    07/07/2009 03:16:03
    1. [MIHOUGHT] Finnish Genealogy
    2. Hello listers, Would someone please give me the URL for the Finnish Genealogy site? Is it still there? Finn-Gen. Kathleen Kangas Briggs "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle." **************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on tour at TourTracker.com. (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000006)

    07/07/2009 09:22:24
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] KOLJONEN family of New York Mills, Otter Tail, MN, (and probably Houghton Co., MI) related to Phillip Andrew Koljonen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CStanley84 Surnames: Ahola Olsen Olson Luusua Andersen Anderson Petersen Peterson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/2437.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would bet that the family came through the U.P. of Michigan, first. Since my first post, I've found many more shirt-tail relation and every one in Otter Tail, MN area either moved back and forth between MN and Houghton/Keweenaw county MI or their parents, siblings, or children did. Some came through Canada, first, then on to the UP, MI or MN. All of our family oral history spoke of the Fin side of the family and the Sami that was possibly or probably part of it. In my research, I never found the Sami connection with the Olsen-AHOLA (Olson) and LUUSUA side, but found plenty in the Andersen-Petersen (Anderson-Peterson) Norwegian side. The 1875 census for Finnmark, Norway is available online and with English translations for the basic parts of the search. That year shows the ethnicity of each person in the family, including mixed ethnicities. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/07/2009 08:07:59
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] KOLJONEN family of New York Mills, Otter Tail, MN, (and probably Houghton Co., MI) related to Phillip Andrew Koljonen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaJBergan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/2437.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many of the Finns who came to Minnesota first came to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan but to my knowledge Anders and Eva did not unless he did initially and quickly moved on because they were in Otter Tail County, MN in 1884 when their daughter Anna was born. It isn't something I've heard in the family but I do know my other side did spend many years on the Keweenaw Peninsula. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/06/2009 01:39:16
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] Edna Somero, nee HolppaMother/Hiltunen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sec41246 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4837.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am going thru items I have around here and checking out old e-mails and ran across a post I had saved from you in regards to the Edna Somero items I have. Do you think this Edna is the one you are looking for? If so let me know so I can get the 2 items I have to you. Sharon in Toledo OH USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/03/2009 08:50:38
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] My Ancestry Tree won't open
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patdickow Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4922.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Thomas, My Ancestry Tree is back. PAF Error fixed! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/01/2009 12:03:27
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] My Ancestry Tree won't open
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4922.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Send Ancestry an e-mail. Select - technical support Tell them what version you are using Telephone ppl are there to answer 'simple questions' only. Copy & paste the error message into your message. Look for a file ".bak" on your hard drive. It should be located in your family tree folder. Try to open this file. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/01/2009 09:54:55
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] My Ancestry Tree won't open
    2. Barbra Rule
    3. I have an old maual for Version 9.0 it is dated 2001 so maybe if you try version 8.0 it would help. This was called FAMILY TREE MAKER at that time. Hope this helps. Maybe if you go to google and put in version 8.0 it would tell you the year ??? Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: [MIHOUGHT] My Ancestry Tree won't open > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: patdickow > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4922/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My Ancestry Tree won't open. > > This comes up. > *An error was encountered during indexing.Before continuing,run database > check/repair to see if the pboblem can be fixed. > > Everytime I hit OK, the same error bounces back at me. > > Called "Ancestry" they can't help me because I don't know what program I > am running. > > I have had Ancestry Family Tree since 2000.what program is that??? > > Very nicely they told me to try > "PASTFTM.CUSTHELP.COM" Can't find anything there to help. > > The new owners of Ancestry can't help! > But they can still take my $288.00 plus dollars every year! > This sucks! > > Help please anyone. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > *************************************** > This is a themed mail list for discussion of genealogical research and the > history of Houghton Co. Michigan. Please respect other list members by > staying within this theme. > Houghton Co. MIGenWeb > http://www.mfhn.com/houghton > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIHOUGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/30/2009 01:07:13
    1. [MIHOUGHT] My Ancestry Tree won't open
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patdickow Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4922/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Ancestry Tree won't open. This comes up. *An error was encountered during indexing.Before continuing,run database check/repair to see if the pboblem can be fixed. Everytime I hit OK, the same error bounces back at me. Called "Ancestry" they can't help me because I don't know what program I am running. I have had Ancestry Family Tree since 2000.what program is that??? Very nicely they told me to try "PASTFTM.CUSTHELP.COM" Can't find anything there to help. The new owners of Ancestry can't help! But they can still take my $288.00 plus dollars every year! This sucks! Help please anyone. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/30/2009 12:53:46
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] Death Emma Korby Bekkala
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrockstar1121 Surnames: Blanksvard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/2398.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hilma Blanksvard was my great grandmother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/28/2009 07:29:18
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] sorry
    2. Sorry. This got sent to the wrong address. Alice In a message dated 6/23/2009 12:06:41 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, mihought-request@rootsweb.com writes: Hi Ruth and Chops, The following story comes from the Houghton County Michigan genealogical mailing list that I belong to. Thought you might be interested in reading about the 'old country'. Hope to see you on the 18th of July. Yes? **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000004)

    06/23/2009 11:48:56
    1. [MIHOUGHT] Forest Hill Cemetery
    2. Tami
    3. Now has a guest book. Feel free to stop by and say HI!! http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/foresthill/default.asp Tami

    06/23/2009 09:13:37
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] MIHOUGHT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 99
    2. 6/22/09 6 p.m. MST Hi Ruth and Chops, The following story comes from the Houghton County Michigan genealogical mailing list that I belong to. Thought you might be interested in reading about the 'old country'. Hope to see you on the 18th of July. Yes? Alice ============================ At the turn of the last century Calumet had the largest (by percentage) population of Croatians in the country. So many in fact that a Croatian Primary Schoolteacher mentioned it in her notes about emigration. Below is what she wrote around 1905. In the article below this teacher speaks of a place in America called "New Lipa" (translated = New Liden Tree)after a small village in NW Croatia. This place in America is Calumet Michigan. Even though this is about Croatian immigrants much in the story could fit any of our immigrant ancestors journey. The teacher writes: "Today they are telling in the village that fifteen are going to Fiume tomorrow by the early train, - men, women, and young girls on their way to America. They were all blessed by the priest after mass. The prayer for their happiness away from home was very moving. All who knelt before the altar were pale, struggling against the tears in eyes which may never see this church again. On this consecrated spot they took leave of the fatherland, our dear Croatia, who cannot feed her children because she is not free nor the mistress of her own money. She must let them go among strangers in order that those who remain may live, they and their children and their old people. And the old people die in peace because they have hope; the little ones shall fare better than ever they have done. This morning all went early to confession. With God they go safer on their long journey. Toward evening they can be seen hurrying from house to house, taking leave of those that they love. Who can say that there will ever be another meeting for them? It is very late before they have finished these visits, and the family waits for them with impatience. With impatience, how else, when this evening or rather the few hours still left are so short. This is the last supper at home. There is no going to bed, for at three they must start for the station, as the train goes at four. It is so sad to hear them driving through the village singing a song which expresses all the feelings of their sore hearts. The saddest moment of all is the departure. The train has come, they must get on board. How many tears and sobs and kisses in our little forest and rock-bound station! Friends go with them to Fiume -- all but the children and the old folks, who stay in the village alone. In Fiume the girls buy what they need for the journey, and a little gold crucifix. That must be bought in the fatherland. So must rings, too. Often the parents buy the betrothal rings for their sons and daughters, who marry in America, and send them to them. Faith and love come from the homeland. Finally, at the ship good-byes must be said, the last. One little girl, whose older sister was going by train to Vienna, had gone with her to Fiume. But when the train was about to go the little one flung herself down upon the ground in her distress and shrieked terribly. Every one tried to pacify her, but she pressed her little hands over her eyes to hide the engine from her sight, and answered, "It is easy for you to talk, but this hateful engine is robbing me of my sweet sister." She was quite ill with suffering, and they had much ado to get her away. But it is hardest for the mothers who let their daughters or their sons go. Very late, after midnight, people come home -- I alone. Now come quiet tears and prayers that God may grant the travelers a safe arrival. With what anxiety and joy do they wait for the news from the agent that their dear ones have reached New York in safety. There relatives are already expecting them, and the journey can be peacefully continued in their company. Our people generally go to Michigan. In one town there are so many that our people call it "New Lipa." The money for the journey always comes from relatives or friends to whom all is honestly repaid later. The young fellows try to save the money to bring over a young girl. When she comes to America -- generally she does not know her suitor -- she is married. If she is unwilling, not finding him to her liking, she must pay back the money, but it very often happens that another lad pays it for her and takes her for his wife instead. Many girls are very fortunate in America. For instance, this very day a family is coming home. The wife was poor and ill-favored. Relatives sent her money for the journey to America, and there she married a poor and very humble sort of man. By work and saving they have got together six thousand dollars in thirteen years. They have six children and with them are now returning. In those days she was poor, ridiculed, alone; now she is well to-do, respected, the mother of a family. The women are full of curiosity about her. At noon they were all in the street in hopes of seeing her, but in vain. She and her family are staying in Fiume and will come to-night, perhaps. My housekeeper is her godmother, and so awaits her happy godchild with much pleasure, for she is to offer her, for purchase, a large meadow which once belonged to the parents of her godchild, but which they were obliged to sell. I think that would be a very pleasant feeling, to be able to buy back again a piece of l! and lost in one's father's time, and to let the happy grandchildren jump and play about where once the poor grandfather worked, and whence misfortune drove him away to die. My housekeeper, who is already sixty-five, cannot tell without crying how it used to be here in the good old days. Thirty-four years ago there was no railroad. Our splendid highway, the "Lujziane," even then a century old, saw such activity as will never return. All travel was by this road, and our people were happy because they always had the opportunity to work and to live in peace. In one house they kept ten servants, men and maids. Day and night the teams with their heavy loads were on the highway. Labor was very cheap, a man got about thirteen cents and a woman six cents a day. To be sure, they had good food besides, bread, meat, and wine as much as they wanted, and the children of the women servants were fed, too. The wages were low, as I have said, yet the people were contented. Some got very rich, but the poor, too, were well provided for. Twenty years ago two men went to America from here, the first from our place to go. Now nearly half the village is in America. It is hard to till the fields, for there are no workers to be had. Whoever has strength and youth is at work in America. At home are only the old men and women, and the young wives with their children. Every wife has much to do for herself. Only poor girls work in the fields. "And they must be paid a crown (twenty cents) a day," sighs my housekeeper, and thinks of the better days of old.... What especially pleases them is the respect in which workers are held in America. They are better cared for, too, mentally. They have three or four Croatian papers, they have organizations, and learn much that they bring home later. They have their priests and churches, but as yet only two Croatian schools. All is founded by the contributions of workingmen. They send a great deal home to the churches, too; they are supporting a poor man, and in 1903, when there were the disturbances in Croatia about the Hungarian flag and the Hungarian inscriptions on the railroad stations, our brothers in America sacrificed a great deal for the support of the families of those under arrest. They love Croatia dearly. Each one longs for home and wants to die here. We Slavs are so soft-natured. Homesickness is our disease. On account of it many Croatians cannot hold out, and return home too soon. The talk is all of America. Our newspapers write so much what a bad thing it is for whole families to go there as they do. But it is no use. People must eat. The stones are hard. There is too little land. The Government does nothing for the good of the people. There are no factories, there is no building, no mining. So how can people live and pay taxes? And if the taxes are not paid the cow is taken from the stall, the pillows from under the head. Only American capital could lessen the stream of emigration. Croatia is a beautiful country. Our mountains doubtless hold great treasures, but we lack the money with which to seek them. Only American capital could bring them to light. We have the beautiful sea, the lovely Plitvica lakes, and the fine district about Agram, but we cannot make use of these beauties as a rich and free people could. We have a sufficient income, but as a public man has said, "Our pockets are in the Hungarian trousers." The Hungarians have our money, and give us just enough to keep us alive. Only a free and independent nation can progress. We are like dead capital. But we hope for our national resurrection. So many have already died in this hope. It is our ideal, our dearest one. For this Zriny and Frankopany died. The innocent blood of our best sons must at last bring us good fortune." Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000004)

    06/22/2009 02:54:03
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] Ross Collection
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stanleypakkala Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/1114.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: my great uncle john pakkala was the inspector who was killed in the mining accident. my grandfather alex pakkala was his brother. their father john or johann pakkala died in hurontown near houghton in march of 1913. i have been trying for ages to see where he and my greatgrandmother is buried. any information would be appreciated thanks, stan pakkala westland, michigan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/22/2009 01:56:05
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] News article
    2. thanks tami mary **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823273x1201398689/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62)

    06/22/2009 10:49:08
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] Ross Collection
    2. Stan, Have you tried seekingmichigan.org Just did a quick look, found a Albert (child) father Alexander buried at/in Forest Hill.? Check Tami's listings. The Lib of MI is stilling uploading death certificates but a lot is already there.? Years are 1897-1920.? the death cert will have the cemetery listed.? If you don't find right off, keep checking back.? It's free. Happy Hunting, Marge -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:56 pm Subject: Re: [MIHOUGHT] Ross Collection This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stanleypakkala Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/1114.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: my great uncle john pakkala was the inspector who was killed in the mining accident. my grandfather alex pakkala was his brother. their father john or johann pakkala died in hurontown near houghton in march of 1913. i have been trying for ages to see where he and my greatgrandmother is buried. any information would be appreciated thanks, stan pakkala westland, michigan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. *************************************** This is a themed mail list for discussion of genealogical research and the history of Houghton Co. Michigan. Please respect other list members by staying within this theme. Houghton Co. MIGenWeb http://www.mfhn.com/houghton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIHOUGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/22/2009 10:12:54
    1. [MIHOUGHT] News article
    2. Tami
    3. Here is the link for the news article that was in Saturdays paper about forest hill. http://www.mininggazette.com/page/content.detail/id/505564.html?nav=5003

    06/22/2009 03:01:00
    1. Re: [MIHOUGHT] new database passport applications
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GClodgo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4781.2.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/21/2009 06:09:44