By now it is clear to all of us that this is a scam. You do not have to pay a single penny to learn about using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). I have used it to great effectiveness in our struggle to protect the Burton Historical Collection. To learn about the FOIA, just point your browser to http://www.ag.state.mi.us/foia_and_open_meetings/foia.htm for specific information about the Michigan FOIA. A search of the Internet will reveal many other helpful sites with suggestions about using the FOIA. Be warned that the FOIA is not the wonder the scammer presents it as. Certainly, you could use it to ask for genealogical information. However, the agency has the right to bill a reasonable amount for searching for the document and processing it. In other words, if you ask for all the probate records for a particular person using the FOIA, then you will probably end up paying the same amount, if not much more, as if you were to just apply for these papers in the normal way. I could seeing using the FOIA in the situation where a county clerk is sitting on documents and will not share them. The FOIA has a built in schedule in which the clerk would have to reply. Nevertheless, in 99 percent of the cases, using the FOIA would be killing flies with a shotgun. Please understand that the FOIA is a very important law for citizen to use when they have to force a government agency to be open, transparent, and accountable. However, it should not be abused for simple genealogical requests. Good luck in your research. JP John P. DuLong, Ph.D. Acadian and French Canadian Genealogy 959 Oxford Road Berkley, MI 48072-2011 USA (248) 541-2894 http://habitant.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bernardi, Bernarte, Jackson, McMillin, Pence, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2FB.2ACI/406.435 Message Board Post: Im interested in seeing the Bernardi picture if you still have it. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1805 Message Board Post: Dear fellow researchers: First, this is not spam or advertising, honest, I will give you my home telephone number if you want to contact me. I am a genealogist just like you are. I have figured out a way to get records that you can do from home that actually will get you somewhere! In my every day professional work I use the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) to acquire records from all areas. The FOIA is a tool that is available to all Americans. The request is free. But you have to know where to send it, you have to have the right request form, a properly worded letter, you have to know what type of information they need to get you what you are looking for. While you cannot just send in a generic "find this" request, using the proper request the proper forms and properly worded legal letter you will result in the getting documentation you are seeking. You have to send some starting info for them to search for, but I received 84 pages the first time and two! weeks later received an additional 124 pages of documentation. Some of these records went back to 1838. I will send you the form, the request letter, what you need to send them in terms of specifics, if you have them, or if not, where and how to find them. I have compiled a list of each State’s statutes that you will need to format the request form for your particular State. I have included some specific searching directions and examples that may help you. Obtaining information and documentation is what the Freedom of Information Act is for! But you have to know how and where to use it. And the records have to exist. The FOIA is available for use in any state for any public record. It does not, not replace the researcher, but for those of us who have been unable to physically get to an out of town location or to contact an active researcher it's great. As a result of my request I have my gggrandfather's entire household inventory, I have his entire office ! contents down to the list of law books and furniture he owned, I have the guardianship papers for all of my ggrand uncles and aunts, I have a (long) list of people that owed him money for mortgages he held and how much, when they were due. I know how much of an allowance the Estate had my gggrandmother on for the next 5 years! Again, this is just one tool. My email is genealogyprincess2000@yahoo.com. I will be glad to help anyone with any additional information or reformatting the forms for other states, other data requests, etc. and will send a paper for that. I am requesting a $5.00 fee paper and copying costs. I had no idea this would be responded to in such huge numbers and I can’t afford that much copying. So, send me a self-addressed stamped envelope with $1.08 postage on it to Genealogy Princess, 20757 Camden Square, #210, Lathrup Village, MI 48076. I will send you the information (it’s 20 pages) the day I receive the envelope. A 6X9 enve! lope works best, or a 5 X 7. I also have just signed up for Paypal. My Paypal information is genealogyprincess2000@yahoo.com (checking account). The amount is $6.08. I will send the information to you the instant I receive your address in the notification. In the meantime, start searching for as many specifics as you can get. This is not "send me the death certificate of...." This is "I searched the probate database for (county) and found that my ggrandfather's estate is in your records. It is between the years XXXX and XXXX." Then there is more legal lingo, etc. etc.. Anyway, I am sorry this post is so long. Also, please advise anyone else you think may be interested in this information in other lists. Thanks! Kathy Lawler

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//2FB.2ACI/1804 Message Board Post: in the Gazette Tuesday.April 15, 1958 Ontonagon, John C. Stevens,age 62 died on Thursday after a long illness. Servicea were held on Sun.at Ascension Episcopal Church with the Rev.Paul Nancarrow officiating.Burial in the family lot at Riverside cemetery , Military rites by the Ontonagon veterans.

Thanks, Alicia, This is one thing I did not have. Any other information you get on this family would be appreciated. I've already gotten a lot of infor from you. Mary alicia@chartermi.net wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Message Board URL: > > <a href="http://mail.peoplepc.com/jump/http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//2FB.2ACI/1803">http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//2FB.2ACI/1803</a> > > Message Board Post: > > >From the Gazette,Tues.april 15, 1958 > The above died Monday evening at the Memorial Hospital where she had been a patient for one day. > Born in Finland July 23, 1878 and came to the USA in 1902.She resided in Laurium for 12 years and > for the last 40 years resided on a farm in the Woodland area. > She married Walter Raudio in Calumet Jan.22, 1914.,a member of the Pine St.apostolic Church. > Survivors include her husband,son Norman of Woodland, 6 grandchildren,one gr.grandson and several > cousins in the states and Finland. > Services at the church on Thursday at 2.Peterson Funeral home in charge of arrangements. > > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Cemeteries > <a href="http://mail.peoplepc.com/jump/http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html">http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html</a> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > <a href="http://mail.peoplepc.com/jump/http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com

I think the Lake Linden Historical Society would be your place to contact. I have found when I am up there they have all the old papers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Junttonen Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:23 PM To: MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIHOUGHT] OLD NEWSPAPER You can contact the MTU Archives in Houghton. http://www.lib.mtu.edu/jrvp/mtuarchives/using/fees2.htm At 03:58 PM 11/19/02 -0700, you wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1801 > >Message Board Post: > >How do I get infomation on an automobile accident that happened November 23,1941 Houghton County,MI A little boy was killed. Clifford Korby age 3yrs,11mo,1day. He was my brother and the son of Hubert & Bertha Korby. Clifford was born in Copper City,MI Dec.23,1938 Died Nov.24,1941Contact Pat(Korby)Dickow at patdickow@cox.net > > >==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== >MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Cemeteries >http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== Houghton County Land Patents ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/houghton/land/houghton.txt ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//2FB.2ACI/1803 Message Board Post: >From the Gazette,Tues.april 15, 1958 The above died Monday evening at the Memorial Hospital where she had been a patient for one day. Born in Finland July 23, 1878 and came to the USA in 1902.She resided in Laurium for 12 years and for the last 40 years resided on a farm in the Woodland area. She married Walter Raudio in Calumet Jan.22, 1914.,a member of the Pine St.apostolic Church. Survivors include her husband,son Norman of Woodland, 6 grandchildren,one gr.grandson and several cousins in the states and Finland. Services at the church on Thursday at 2.Peterson Funeral home in charge of arrangements.

Kathy I am interested in your package. ----- Original Message ----- From: M Hinchman Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:19 PM To: MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIHOUGHT] Lookup assistance Kathy I am interested in your pckage Mary hinchkcmj@novagate.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <genealogyprincess2000@yahoo.com> To: <MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: [MIHOUGHT] Lookup assistance > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1799 > > Message Board Post: > > Dear fellow researchers: First, this is not spam or advertising, honest, I will give you my home telephone number if you want to contact me. I am a genealogist just like you are. I have just figured out a way to get records that you can do from home that actually will get you somewhere! In my every day professional work I use the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) to acquire records from all areas. While you cannot just send in a generic "find this" request, using the proper request the proper forms and properly worded legal letter you will result in the getting documentation you are seeking. You have to send some starting info for them to search for, but I received 84 pages the first time and two weeks later received an additional 124 pages of documentation. These records went back to 1838. It was a godsend! I will spell this out exactly to anyone who wishes direction and send you the form, the request letter, what you need to send them in terms of specifics, if! > you have them, or if not, where and how to find them. This is what the Freedom of Information Act is for! But you have to know how and where to use it. The FOIA is available for use in any state for any public record. It does not, not replace the researcher, but for those of us who have been unable to physically get to an out of town location or to contact an active researcher it's great. As a result of my request I have my gggrandfather's entire household inventory down to every single knife and fork, I have his entire office contents down to the list of law books and furniture he owned, I have the guardianship papers for all of my ggrand uncles and aunts, I have a (long) list of people that owed him money for mortgages he held and how much, when they were due - it was like a treasure chest. I know how much he paid for a loaf of bread, how much of an allowance the Estate had my gggrandmother on for the next 5 years! And all because I knew how to ask the right way. Ag! > ain, this is just one tool. I am preparing a "package" to email those who are interested. My email is genealogyprincess2000@yahoo.com. The response has been rather large, it's going to take me a few days, possible until the weekend. I will be glad to help anyone with any additional information or reformatting the forms for other states, other data requests, etc. This is just taking me a LOT of time. I will email all the details with the forms, etc. In the meantime, start searching for as many specifics as you can get. This is not "send me the death certificate of...." This is "I searched the probate database for (county) and found that my ggrandfather's estate is in your records. It is between the years XXXX and XXXX." Then there is more legal lingo, etc. etc.. Anyway, I am sorry this post is so long, I will be sending this out to all interested sometime this week or weekend. Also, please advise anyone else you think may be interested in this information in o! > ther lists. Thanks! Kathy > > > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Cemeteries > http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Archived Files http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mi/houghton/dxhought.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

You might check with the Houghton County Historical Society in Lake Linden, MI. They have in their Archives copies of some of the old Gazettes, and as long as you know the exact date of death, they could check for an Obituary. The phone no. is 906-296-4121. I don't know of an e-mail address for them. Good Luck - Joyce Gardner > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1801 > > Message Board Post: > > How do I get infomation on an automobile accident that happened November 23,1941 > Houghton County,MI A little boy was killed. Clifford Korby age 3yrs,11mo,1day. > He was my brother and the son of Hubert & Bertha Korby. Clifford was born in > Copper City,MI Dec.23,1938 Died Nov.24,1941Contact Pat(Korby)Dickow at > patdickow@cox.net > > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Cemeteries > http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Friends ... Still looking for any connections to my Pearce "cousins" who left Penzance, Cornwall in the mid-1800's and settled in the Dover, NJ area. We have reason to believe that they were fairly well off, and although most of my Freethy ancestors were into mining, the Pearce branch may have been builders. Possible male names in this PEARCE family are John, Thomas, Charles and Edward. Females could have been named Lily (Lillie), Elizabeth, Margaret or "Letty". My gr-grandma ELIZABETH PEARCE FREETHY and her husband WILLIAM eventually moved west to Ishpeming in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Any leads? Thanks in advance ... Diane Freethy Wash State, USA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com

You can contact the MTU Archives in Houghton. http://www.lib.mtu.edu/jrvp/mtuarchives/using/fees2.htm At 03:58 PM 11/19/02 -0700, you wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1801 > >Message Board Post: > >How do I get infomation on an automobile accident that happened November 23,1941 Houghton County,MI A little boy was killed. Clifford Korby age 3yrs,11mo,1day. He was my brother and the son of Hubert & Bertha Korby. Clifford was born in Copper City,MI Dec.23,1938 Died Nov.24,1941Contact Pat(Korby)Dickow at patdickow@cox.net > > >==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== >MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Cemeteries >http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1802 Message Board Post: Who is Niilo Peterson? His name is listed as father on Alfred G. Peterson's death certificate and mother as Mae Mielke.In the 1930 census Alfred's father was listed as Nelo Pietila and mother Mayme Mielke. in Allouez,MI Mae did have three sons with Nelo , they were Alfred, William,& Richard. Mayme left Nelo and took Alfred with her, did she marry Niilo Peterson? is that how she changed Alfreds last name? She did change her name to MAE and she died as Mae Dziemiam, in WI She was married to ???Dziemian? Mae was my mothers sister. The sisters Mayme & Bertha Mielke were German and from Milwaukee,WI and married two fins in Houghton County,MI Bertha married Hubert Korby, lived in Copper City,MI and Mayme was married to Nelo Pietila, lived in Allouez,MI in 1930. Any infomation, please contact me at (patdickow@cox.net) Thank you, Pat (Korby) Dickow

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1801 Message Board Post: How do I get infomation on an automobile accident that happened November 23,1941 Houghton County,MI A little boy was killed. Clifford Korby age 3yrs,11mo,1day. He was my brother and the son of Hubert & Bertha Korby. Clifford was born in Copper City,MI Dec.23,1938 Died Nov.24,1941Contact Pat(Korby)Dickow at patdickow@cox.net

You might also try bookfinder.com if the titles are old or out of print. Beth

Looking for these two names in or around Calument Keewanaw Michigan about 1869 to 1880 or maybe after. Peter Niemela was married to Mar Gustava Pietila about 1868 in Finland, they had the following children all supposed to have been born in Calument Keewanaw, MI Zachary, Ida, Hilda and Peter born June 15, 1878. Anybody else researching this family? Does anybody know of an online database I can check the births or find out about this family? Jackie

1930 finds him on Oak street: Mattson Christian W. age 61, born Norway, first married at age 25, locomotive engineer at copper mine. Mary age 49, first married at age 23, born Finland. Johnson Paul A age 18, relationship: ???in (cannot read because of an ink blot) born MI. Mattson George son, looks like age 8, born MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JSMattson1@aol.com> To: <MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: [MIHOUGHT] Christian Mattson > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1800 > > Message Board Post: > > Searching for Christian Mattson born Sept. 28, 1869 in Norway, possibly Vasdo(Visisaari) Norway. Immigrated 1875 with parents. Father was Christ Mattson born Finland. According to the 1880 census he lived in Cslumet, MI with parents and siblings. He died in 1935 in Hancock, Houghton Co. MI where he had spent most of his life. Perhaps in the same house on Oak Street. > > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== > French-Canadian Genealogical Research in Houghton County, Michigan > by John DuLong > http://habitant.org/houghton/fcgenealogy.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Mary Byykkonen Johnson was Christian's second wife. I have had correspondence with several people on this family. I am quite busy so will have to get back to you later. Margaret Smith ccaudle <ccaudle@chartermi.net> wrote:1930 finds him on Oak street: Mattson Christian W. age 61, born Norway, first married at age 25, locomotive engineer at copper mine. Mary age 49, first married at age 23, born Finland. Johnson Paul A age 18, relationship: ???in (cannot read because of an ink blot) born MI. Mattson George son, looks like age 8, born MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: [MIHOUGHT] Christian Mattson > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1800 > > Message Board Post: > > Searching for Christian Mattson born Sept. 28, 1869 in Norway, possibly Vasdo(Visisaari) Norway. Immigrated 1875 with parents. Father was Christ Mattson born Finland. According to the 1880 census he lived in Cslumet, MI with parents and siblings. He died in 1935 in Hancock, Houghton Co. MI where he had spent most of his life. Perhaps in the same house on Oak Street. > > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== > French-Canadian Genealogical Research in Houghton County, Michigan > by John DuLong > http://habitant.org/houghton/fcgenealogy.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Cemeteries http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2FB.2ACI/1800 Message Board Post: Searching for Christian Mattson born Sept. 28, 1869 in Norway, possibly Vasdo(Visisaari) Norway. Immigrated 1875 with parents. Father was Christ Mattson born Finland. According to the 1880 census he lived in Cslumet, MI with parents and siblings. He died in 1935 in Hancock, Houghton Co. MI where he had spent most of his life. Perhaps in the same house on Oak Street.

Have your tried Amazon.com? ----- Original Message ----- From: "JB Wilson" <designs@hevanet.com> To: <MIHOUGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: [MIHOUGHT] Books on Finnish Immigrants > Hello list, > I'm looking for three titles all related to Finnish immigrants and/or > Finnish history. > > "On New Shores" by Konrad Bercovici > > "Women Who Dared" copyright 1986, edited by Carl Ross & K. Marianne > Wargelin Brown SIBN 0-932 833-05-5 > > "In Two Cultures" copyright 1992, edited by Aili Jorvenpa, North Star > Press, St. Cloud, MN ISBN 0-87839-074-X > > If anyone has copies to sell or sees them for sale somewhere, please > contact me directly via my e-mail address: designs@hevanet.com > > Thanks, JB Wilson, Beaverton, OR :-) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > JB Wilson, Beaverton, OR, USA > "Searching for the Living, Honoring the Dead" > <designs@hevanet.com> > Researching: Kangas, Eskola, Mattson/Matson, Makkonen, Aho, Runtujärvi, > Barnes, Benedict, Crandle/Crandall, Miner, Ufford, Berry & Williams NY/PA > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== > MIGenWeb Houghton Co. Cemeteries > http://www.mfhn.com/houghton/cemeteries.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Refer to the site managers post on this: The following message has been removed from the Houghton Co. boards due to it's spam like nature. It was posted to many boards across Rootsweb which is considered spam and reported as abuse to Rootsweb. Please use extreme caution if you try to contact this person. Anyone who claims they are not spamming when they in fact are is some one to be leery of. On doing a search I found that this e-mail address is not a legitimate yahoo address. Pat Hamp Kathy I would be interested in your package Marlene e-mail: marlenegj@cs.com ==== MIHOUGHT Mailing List ==== French-Canadian Genealogical Research in Houghton County, Michigan by John DuLong http://habitant.org/houghton/fcgenealogy.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237