Thank you Rosie. I have subscribed to [email protected] as you suggested. Gary > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:19:28 -0800 (PST) > From: Rosie C <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MIHOUGHT] Finnish naming nuances > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Gary, > I don't have an answer for you but I suggest you join and post your message to the > finngen mailing list. > Finngen mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail2.genealogia.fi/mailman/listinfo/finngen > > Rosie > researching: KAIPONEN and MOILANEN surnames

My Polish GGrandparents were married in Red Jacket, Mi on Oct. 1, 1889 and their wedding portrait was taken by Rickard studios as well. It is identical to the one taken by Rickard studios you have attached. She was wearing the dark dress and white veil although they were both standing with their hands on a Bible. Can't identify the people in the photos, thought, sorry! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Martin, Joseph" <[email protected]> > > Please help me identify the Polish families in these Michigan studio photos. > http://picasaweb.google.pl/ceil.jensen/Martin?authkey=0Ovjh7Jx63g > > These studios are known to have taken many Polish ancestors' portraits; one here > from Red Jacket and the others from Detroit. We have identified Father Paul > Gutowski (Ks. Pawel Gutowski) 1845-1918 from Detroit. The wedding party with the > little feathers atop the head pieces resembles an identified photo from 1903 > also taken by Sowinski. So, if you can add a suggested time period or any other > info- it will be appreciated. The dark wedding dresses are typical prior to > 1900. > > Thank you for any assistance. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, IL > > *************************************** > This is a themed mail list for discussion of genealogical research and the > history of Houghton Co. Michigan. Please respect other list members by staying > within this theme. > Houghton Co. MIGenWeb > http://www.mfhn.com/houghton > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Please help me identify the Polish families in these Michigan studio photos. http://picasaweb.google.pl/ceil.jensen/Martin?authkey=0Ovjh7Jx63g These studios are known to have taken many Polish ancestors' portraits; one here from Red Jacket and the others from Detroit. We have identified Father Paul Gutowski (Ks. Pawel Gutowski) 1845-1918 from Detroit. The wedding party with the little feathers atop the head pieces resembles an identified photo from 1903 also taken by Sowinski. So, if you can add a suggested time period or any other info- it will be appreciated. The dark wedding dresses are typical prior to 1900. Thank you for any assistance. Joseph Martin Romeoville, IL

Hi Gary, I don't have an answer for you but I suggest you join and post your message to the finngen mailing list. Finngen mailing list [email protected] http://mail2.genealogia.fi/mailman/listinfo/finngen Rosie researching: KAIPONEN and MOILANEN surnames *************************************** Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:53:26 -0600 From: "Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara" Subject: [MIHOUGHT] Finnish naming nuances For those with more understanding of the Finnish language and naming nuances than I, I am curious if Finnish last names with an ending 'ala' may have particular geographic significance. I note several Finnish names ending in 'ala'. For some the entire last name is 'Ala'. I understand 'ala' is a Finnish noun meaning "range, branch, field". Presumably then the prefixes 'Rep' (Repala), 'Tak' (Takala), 'Liik' (Liikala), and so forth could perhaps have some geographic or occupational rooting. Would anyone care to comment? Thanks Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wenberg Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4692/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ironwood Daily Globe (Ironwood, Michigan) > 1936 > March > 31 Injuries are Fatal Houghton Emil Wenberg 58 years old of Woodside who suffered a fractured skull when struck by an automobile driven by George J. Smedman of Marquette , Thursday evening near Dollar Bay., passed away at 4;30 Saturday morning in St. Joseph's hospital. Coroner Jon McCarthy, who investigated the death said the inquest will be held, the date to be announced later. The deceased was born in Norway and came to this county at the age of five years, locating with his parents in the copper country where he has resided ever since. He is survived by his widow, and nine children, Hubert, Robert, Martin, Ralph and Dorothy at home, Clarence of Detroit, Florence and George of Marquette and John of Newberry. He is also suvived by his mother Mrs Eliza Wenberg of Point Mills, three sister , Mrs N. Ewen of Hubbell, Mrs Alfred Anderson of Alaska and Mrs Thomas Nicholls of Wilmington Del. and a brother James of Point Mills.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: St Amour Vadnais Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4691/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ironwood Daily Globe (Ironwood, Michigan) > 1931 > February > 13 Charge Murder Attempt Houghton Unable to furnish bonds until Sat. morning when his examination will be held, Wilfred St. Amour , a Pilgrim farmer, was remanded to jail by Justice Charles Rouleau after being formally charged with an attempt to kill and murder. St. Armour was arrested Feb. 3 after a neighboring farmer, Ed Vadnais, had been assaulted. Vadnais told Undersherriff , Willilam Eilola and Dep. Sheriff Jos. McNamara that he was clubbed unconscious by someone who sprang at him as he opened his barn door, the officers upon investigating, found snowshoe tracks leading from the Vadnais farm to the St. Armour farm, some distance away. St Armour was arrested and according to the officers, he confessed to the assault. Vadnais is still in critical condition at St. Joseph's hospital where he was rushed immediantely after the attack.

For those with more understanding of the Finnish language and naming nuances than I, I am curious if Finnish last names with an ending 'ala' may have particular geographic significance. I note several Finnish names ending in 'ala'. For some the entire last name is 'Ala'. I understand 'ala' is a Finnish noun meaning "range, branch, field". Presumably then the prefixes 'Rep' (Repala), 'Tak' (Takala), 'Liik' (Liikala), and so forth could perhaps have some geographic or occupational rooting. Would anyone care to comment? Thanks Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/2179.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: trying to contact Anita from Sweden. My grandmother on my mother's side was Mary Matilda OLESON Krogh. Her parents were Johan Oleson and Mary Niska who emigrated from Norway in 1873. They settled first in Hancock and eventually moved to Calumet/Laurium. In the 20s most of the Olesons moved to Detroit. Would love to hear from you John please refer to IRMA KUSCHELL obit (that's my mother)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemppainen Takala Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Hisk is the parish church records on line in Finland. Most records go up to 1850 , after that you have to go to an LDS center and see if they have Toysa microfilms for latter years. If not they can be ordered. Any way I did find a marraige for Heikki/Henry Takala and Ulrika in Toysa. Married Announc. Married Village Farm Man Wife Village Farm 31.8.1828 Bs Henr Gusts Takala Pig Ulr. Mattsdr Paavola See above Henry Gust(son) Takala married single women Ulrica/Ulrika Mattsdotter Paavola 26.12.1831 Drg Joh Mattss Mattinen B.dr Eva Gust. Takala 1835 Bs Joh Thomes. Kallioniemi B.dr Lisa Gustdr Takala original - VV: \Kei vihkipäivää original - VIHKOMM: 9.2.1842 Bs Gust Gusts Takala Pig Lisa Gustsdr Myllyniemi 7.4.1843 Bs Erik Gusts Takala Bdr Lisa Thodr Kallioniemi 12.9.1843 Drg Joh. Salos Proel Bdr Maria Gustsdr Takala 9.2.1850 Drg Isak Isaks Rissa Bdr Johann. Sof. Henrsdr Takala 14.9.1860 Pennala Drg Joh. Gust Henrs Takala Fostdr Sanna Johsdr Aho 25.6.1880 (121) Tp Elias Konst. Matinp Takaniemi Taltr Mathild Juhtr Pesola (118) Töysä - all Christened Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child 6.1.1838 7.1.1838 Bd.s. Henrik Gust.s. Takala Ulrika Mattsd:r 30-35 Johan Gust. 2.3.1841 8.3.1841 Bd. Henrik Gust.s. Takala Ulrika Mattsd:r 30-35 Henrik 26.2.1843 2.3.1843 B.s. Gustaf Gust.s. Takala Lisa Gustafsd:r 20-25 Walborg Maria 20.2.1844 24.2.1844 Bd.s. Gustaf Gust.s. Takala Lisa Gustafsd:r 20-25 Henric 25.7.1844 28.7.1844 Bd. Henric Gust.s. Takala Ulrika Mattsd:r 35-40 Eric 11.1.1847 13.1.1847 Backst.k. Gustaf Gustafsson Takala Lisa Gustafsd:r 25-30 Gustaf ( 2.2.47) 1.1.1848 2.1.1848 Bakst. Gustaf Gust.s. Takala Lisa Gustafsd:r 25-30 Amanda Lov. 24.7.1848 30.7.1848 B:n Henric Gust.s. Takala Ulrika Mattsd:r 40-45 Alexander 25.9.1850 29.9.1850 Inh. Johan Salom.s. Takala Maria Gustafsd:r 25-30 Johan 19.7.1851 20.7.1851 Bd. Henrik Gust.s. Takala Ulrica Mattsd:r 40-45 Gretha Lovisa 26.9.1851 28.9.1851 B.måg. Isak Isakss. Takala Johanna Sofia Henr.d:r 15-20 Johan Henrik 18.9.1853 20.9.1853 B:n Isak Isakss. Takala Sofia Henriksd:r 15-20 Michael 20.9.1855 23.9.1855 B:n Isak Isakss. Takala Johanna Sof. Henr.d:r 20-25 Anna Kaisa Buried Age Died Buried Village Farm Person Cause yrs m. w. d. 2.8.1830 3.8.1830 - lilla dr Valborg Messl. 11 14 original - ALKUPKOMM: Kapell.Abr. Gust Castrens dr relative: Bs. Henr. Takala 9.8.1833 11.8.1833 - B. Gust Johs Takala Röds 52 7 3.7.1843 9.7.1843 dödf.b. relative: Dej. Lisa Johsdr Takala 4.7.1843 9.7.1843 b. Valb. Maria Oang 4 18 relative: B. Gust Gusts Takala 2.2.1847 7.2.1847 - b Gustaf Oang 22 relative: Bachst Gust. Takala 23.3.1849 29.3.1849 - b Gustaf Magpl. 1 4 21 relative: Inh. Joh. Takala 23.5.1852 30.5.1852 - Sytnqv ea Valb. Eriksdr Takala Stygn 64 1 9 21.9.1857 27.9.1857 - b. Michael Röds. 4 3 relative: B. Isak Isaks Takala 28.9.1857 4.10.1857 - b. Anna Caisa Röds. 2 8 relative: B. Isak Isaks Takala 24.10.1861 27.10.1861 Takala b Matts Magr. 8 relative: B Isak Isaks Takala 3.3.1862 9.3.1862 - b. Johanna Vilh. Oang 5 relative: Drg Gust Takala http://www.genealogia.fi/indexe.htm Main site in Finland for genealogy. Alicia

Ellinger: Henry Wood Ellinger and his wife Ellen Williams children: Laura Virginia Ellinger Elizabeth Ellinger Henry's father was George Ellinger, grandfather John Ellinger both of Bedford, PA Braun, Christian August Any connections? Mary Ystad Curan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.hough > ton/105.304.316.326.329.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Could you give me the Ellinger and Braun names? Mark Ellinger > > > > *************************************** > This is a themed mail list for discussion of genealogical research and the > history of Houghton Co. Michigan. Please respect other list members by staying > within this theme. > Houghton Co. MIGenWeb > http://www.mfhn.com/houghton > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I forgot to add, Matti's siblings are Elli or Eli(not sure which one), Arvid, Hilda A, and i think he had an older brother John, but I need to verify that one with my Aunt and Father as well. Take care Mark

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/105.304.316.326.329.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could you give me the Ellinger and Braun names? Mark Ellinger

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: OK, now you've really got me inquisitive. I wish I could give you a copy of the tree I have. I don't speak Finnish, my father does a little, but I think my aunt, his sister, is almost fluent. This is the title of the tree that I have. Heikki ja Ulniikka Takalan esivanhempia ja jalkipolvea On the tree, the grandparents of Hilda Sivula are Johu Kusta Mesiaislehto and Susann Juhontytar Koskela. I had assumed that Matti was born in Toysa but if he married Hilda in the US then my assumption was wrong. Could you forward me the Hiski link? I will ask my Aunt where Matti was from, she should know. She has been to Finland looking up the family, we have a "cousin" still living there, and has additional information that is not on the family tree. Was there any information that you were looking for?

Evening everyone, The links on the Houghton Cty Genweb site are not working. I am looking for the marriage date of Henry SCHRIER and Clara METTE. The marriage would possibility be between the years of 1920 and 1930. In the 1930 census Clara is listed as a widow (WD) and living with her brother in Hancock. The 1920 census has Clara living with her parents in Hancock and being single (S). Any help would be grateful. Thank you, Marge

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I did a quick search on the Hiski link in Finland and there are no Kemppainen names in Töysä nor Sivula parish which is strange.They have have used Sivula as a farm name later.alicia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the help. But I think that is a different Matt Kemppainen. I know there are several similarities, but the Matt I am looking for never had a Maud as a sister. Here is the 1910 census for Matthew Walter Kemppainen that I am looking for: Name: Matt W Kemppainen Age in 1910: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Michigan Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Birth Place: Finland Mother's name: Anna Mother's Birth Place: Finland Home in 1910: Franklin, Houghton, Michigan Marital Status: Married (This is Matt, his wife is the 19 year old Hilda right under his name and age) Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Anna Kemppainen 57 Matt W Kemppainen 22 Hilda Kemppainen 19 Elli Kemppainen 19 Arvid Kemppainen 15 Hilda A Kemppainen 10 Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Franklin, Houghton, Michigan; Roll: T624_647; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 115; Image: 288. As far as where they come from, I don't have the record of where Matthew Walter Kemppainen comes from but his wife Hilda Sivula, comes from Toysa, Finland. I would assume that Matt comes from there too. Most of Hilda's brothers and sisters stayed in Toysa and married there. Thanks again. If there is anything in particular that you are looking for, I will keep my eyes open for it. Take care.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemppainen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I found them in the 1900 census but I can't make out the fathers name. By comparing the 1910 where Anna is a widow and 1900 , this is them as I found them by looking for John who was born in 1891 in Michigan. 1900 United States Federal Census about John Kempainen Name: John Kempainen Home in 1900: Franklin, Houghton, Michigan Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Birthplace: Michigan Relationship to head-of-house: Son Mother's name: Annie Race: White Occupation: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Kempainen 60 Annie Kempainen 48 Jacob Kempainen 21 Peter Kempainen 14 John Kempainen 9 Maud Kempainen 5 now 1910 see Maud 1910 United States Federal Census about Anna Kemppainen Name: Anna Kemppainen Age in 1910: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Birthplace: Finland Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Finland Mother's Birth Place: Finland Home in 1910: Hancock Ward 4, Houghton, Michigan Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Year of Immigration: 1886 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Anna Kemppainen 57 Matt Kemppainen 32 John Kemppainen 19 Mauda Kemppainen 16 If you go to your nearest LDS center, they have the census films. Perhaps those can be read clearer to make out the fathers first name. Do you know what part of Finland that they came from? Alicia

Kemppainen is of Savo origin (-nen) and is a common name in the Kainuu region of Oulu province. Margaret "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I did a quick search on the Hiski link in Finland and there are no Kemppainen names in Töysä nor Sivula parish which is strange.They have have used Sivula as a farm name later.alicia *************************************** This is a themed mail list for discussion of genealogical research and the history of Houghton Co. Michigan. Please respect other list members by staying within this theme. Houghton Co. MIGenWeb http://www.mfhn.com/houghton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemppainen/Sivula Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/4690/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Matthew Walter Kemppainen (Matti Valtteri Kemppainen). His mother's name was Anna and she was born in Finland around 1853 (Age 57 on the 1910 Census) I have an extensive family tree tracing back the Sivula line from Matthew's wife Hilda Susanna Sivula (in Finnish). Any information anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. I also have all decendants from Matthew moving forward.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.houghton/854.926.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I really don't think that there was much of a difference. The only time may be was a person was deemed feeble minded which was not on his. I am not really sure what type of resources are availabe in the places you need. I would ask on the county where this took place in Michigan , someone may be able to give you some local sources. alicia