This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gFB.2ACE/1277 Message Board Post: Looking for a Marvin E. Hal/Hall/Hale (?) that was from Hillsdale Michigan when he joined the civil war. Contact me at this email or if you can't get through call 724-924-2408 My computer isn't working well. Elsie

Dear Listers: Some of you may receive this letter more than once if you are on more than one county List in Michigan. I apologize for any inconvience this may cause you. I believe we all should be made aware of what is beginning to become a problem with our cemeteries through out Michigan. Yesterday, Detroit News Metro/State Section carried a news article about the City of Lansing wanting to reclaim thousand of unused gravesites so that they may resell them to bring money into their government. As the City of Jackson, Michigan has already done this and has netted them three hundred thousand dollars, we as descendants of the families who are buried in Michigan Cemeteries need to stand up as one to put a stop to this unlawful event. Yes, we have many old and historical cemeteries through out Michigan and its many counties, cities, towns, villages but I do not believe that any of these governments have the right to take back what your ancestors paid for with their blood, sweat, and tears. Our ancestors paid for these graves to be used by our families, not to be taken back from the descendants of these people who paid for these graves. Yes, families move and shift around the country and thus we leave unused grave sites but I believe that these unused sites should remain in the families of the people who are buried in these plots that have unused sites. I own plots in three different cemeteries in the State of Michigan and since I hold title to them that has been passed down from my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents does not give the city, town, county, or state the right to confiscate them to resell them at their gain. There is no way that my husband and I will utilize all of these gravesites but since I have the titles to theses plots I intend handing them down to my children to be used after our deaths and burial. In order to keep from having this event occur anywhere in our State, we as the family historians and genealogists need to stand up and voice our opinions and let these governments know that we won't stand for this thievery. We need to contact the Michigan Governor and the Senators and the House Representatives, the county executives, city mayors to let them know that we are going to protect our ancestoral burial sites from them. So what I am asking is for help here. With each one of us contacting the cemeteries in which your loved ones were laid to rest find out if there are unused spaces and find out how to go about getting the titles to these plots so that the government cannot take them and then resell them at inflated prices back to the public. Yes, the City of Lansing states they they are going to search for descendants but they already are in financial trouble and therefore could not afford to research and search out the owners or descendants of these family plots as it would cost a small fortune. As we all know the government states they will do one thing and they do entirely a different thing. Your ancestors that date back to the beginning of the State of Michigan only paid a few dollars for these plots which many hold 8, 10, 12 sites in each plot but it was their hard earned money not the governments money taht paid for these plots. Cemeteries are sacred ground and should not be desecrated by anyone including the governments of these cities, towns, villages, counties, and or State. Yes, our ancestors may have only paid 30.00-50.00 per plot but the going prices for these same lots today can bring in as much as four thousand dollars or more depending on where they are at. Checking the Want Ads this a.m. where I live the cheapest lots were going for $2,345.00 each. So you see the government will really be making a killing on these unused plots that our ancestors paid for and they want to take them away from the family descendants. What will happen if you live out of state and have not been contacted and a family member dies and you are going to bury them in the family plot only to find out that it has been sold out from under you without your permission to do this? So please list members write letters, email them, write to the newspapers to the governor and the senators, and representatives, county executives, mayors and let them know we are not going to allow this to go any further and also make the City of Jackson return the monies they made off of the resale of these private plots. I am including email addresses in which you can write to the two major newspapers in Michigan and I am also giving you email addresses for other government officials. To write to the newspapers: letters@freepress.com letteers@detnews.com www.LSJ.com click on the website and then click on the "contact us" and write your letters. Lansing State Journal Write to your local and county newspapers, let them know how you feel about what these governments are trying to do. Protect your cemeteries and your ancestral burial sites from these thieves before it is too late and they destroy them all because of their greediness. Write to the Governor of Michigan Janet Granholm by going to www.michigan.gov then register your email address and then click on Online Forms and Feedback and then write your letter. To address your letters to the Senators and House members address it like this JohnDoe@house.mi.gov putting the name of your house representative in place of John Doe. For the Senate you address is as JohnDoe@senate.michigan.gov putting your state senators name in place of John Doe. write to your county executive, mayors in the same way. If you want to fax a letter to the Governor of Michigan here is the number 1-517-373-3400 Lets get this out in the open so that everyone knows what is going on. We need to defend our ancestors final resting places and to retain them as they are now and not allow the government to sell them off. If we let them get away with this this time what will they do next? Dig up the bones and dump them in a garbage dump because they will stand to get more moeny from reselling these plots. I say NO! Dont' let them do this. Jean Payton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SOBER, OLDS, LOZIER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1090.1 Message Board Post: Stephen Olds, son of John and Mary Sober Olds died at Amboy Township 7 April 1904. He married Elizabeth Lozier in 1847 and came to Hillsdale County before 1870. The 1900 US Census shows he and Elizabeth in Amboy. Elizabeth is shown as have had 4 children with none living. Could we be connected? Richard Sobers

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1276.1.1 Message Board Post: On DC...I have a certified copy of record. Is there a different DC that will state the burial place then? Since this post, someone has e-mailed me that Newell and Elizabeth are buried in Sunset View (Hillsdale) Cemetery. I want to get photos, and hopefully an idea about WHY Newell isn't listed in any MI censuses ie,. 1880, etc.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gFB.2ACE/1276.1 Message Board Post: Use this link - Michigan Genealogical Death Indexing System (Free and searchable) http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/gendisx/search2.htm Newell died at the age of 71 on 2-13-1884. Order the death certificate from the state (see below) and the cert will list place of burial. 1870 Michigan Census = (Free, indexed and searchable, actual census page) http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/ 1880 US Census – The Mormon Church Files LDS (Free, indexed and searchable) Click on the SEARCH tab at top of page Look for 1880 US Census on the left side of screen http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp State of Michigan Death Certificate Request Link: http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/DEATHAPP.HTM REQUESTING A MICHIGAN DEATH RECORD The Michigan Vital Records office has records of deaths that occurred in Michigan and were filed with the state since 1867. Some of the records were not filed with the state; more records are missing from the pre-1916 files. Anyone is eligible to request a copy of a Michigan death record if the application is completed and signed and the required fee paid.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wolcott. Cruson?, Fordham, McEnnally, Shane, Gee Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1276 Message Board Post: I have been searching for the burial site of Newell Wolcott, and his wife Elizabeth. Elizabeth is in the 1880 Jonesville Census living with [SonLaw and Dau] Charles and Susan McEnnally. Newell died in Fayette Twp. Feb. 13, 1884 from a 'dis of the nerves' and might have been in an infirmary. Newell owned land in Hills Co. and the Mc Ennally fam might have been living there. I am at a brick wll here. MH Toledo OH

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1231.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Mail check, Im sending a message to your e-mail address, let me know if you get it then I'll try the scan, someone's hacking me...

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1231.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: David; got the mail today, that was sweet but wasn't necessary, I tried to e-mail you a the address, you gave some reason the mail came back, dont know if I didn't copy the address right, or just my computer, thought I might scan a couple of the obit I have and attach them to an e-mail.. Jill

The following is a list of Bemis Marriage Records from our Michigan Marriage Index Database. If you have any family connections to any of the records we would like to add your email address to those records. NAME,SPOUSE,COUNTY,DATE,DOCUMENT,INFO ================================================= AARON B BEMIS,ALMIRA - BURBANKS,IONIA,17 APR 1881,---,--- ALBEON - BEMIS,ANNA I MAY,SANILAC,01 JAN 1854,---,--- ALBERT P BEMIS,JANE A WEBB,ST CLAIR,21 APR 1855,---,--- CARRIE - BEMIS,LOUIE - NEURNBERG,BERRIEN,07 AUG 1907,CTY REC# 0879,--- CATHERINE - BEMISS~BEMIS,JOHN - BARTOW,BERRIEN,05 OCT 1840,---,--- CATHERINE - BEMISS~BEMIS,JOHN - BARTOW,GENESEE,05 OCT 1840,---,--- CHARLES LEANDER BEMIS,SARAH - SPRAGUE,IONIA,07 AUG 1878,---,--- DANIEL M BEMIS,MELISSA - GREGORY,JACKSON,21 OCT 1874,---,--- DWIGHT D BEMIS,LIZZIE A CAMPBELL,BERRIEN,30 DEC 1882,---,--- ELLA K BEMIS,PARLEY W HAMP,GRATIOT,24 DEC 1874,---,--- ELLEN C BEMIS?,MARQUIS DELAFAYETTE BEMIS,IONIA,27 FEB 1885,---,--- EMILY - BEMIS,MICHAEL - CAO,BERRIEN,27 JUN 1847,---,--- EPHRAIM - BEMIS,SIBIL - GROVER,BRANCH,10 MAR 1845,---,--- FRANK R BEMIS,HENRIETTA - BOYER,EATON,10 NOV 1888,---,--- GEORGE C BEMIS,SARAH ELLEN RITTENHOUSE,BERRIEN,18 JAN 1877,CTY REC# 0064,- JENNIE - BEMIS,LUTHER K CHATMAN,JACKSON,11 AUG 1875,---,--- JULIA ANN BEMIS,THOMAS - BERRY,BRANCH,23 MAR 1864,---,--- LINCOLN (LINCOLAN) - BEMIS,POLLY ANN SCOFIELD,BERRIEN,20 APR 1858,CTY REC# 0002,--- LOIS - BEMIS,TIMOTHY - JOHNSON,ALLEGAN,03 JUN 1843,---,--- LORETTA C BEMIS,EDWARD A BRAKENRIDGE,SANILAC,12 FEB 1853,---,--- LUCINDA - BEMIS,JAMES - REYNOLDS,IONIA,24 MAR 1884,---,--- LUTHER - BEMIS,HELEN E MITCHEL,MECOSTA,16 OCT 1873,---,--- MARY A BEMIS,THOMAS - WHITE,IONIA,18 FEB 1866,---,--- MARY J BEMIS,HIRAM - TRADOR/TRADER,BERRIEN,26 SEP 1874,CTY REC# 0140,--- MARY J BEMIS,HIRAM - TRADER/TRADOR,BERRIEN,26 SEP 1874,---,--- NETTIE LANSING BEMIS,ELIAS - VANLEUVEN,CLINTON,25 MAR 1868,---,--- REUBEN - BEMIS,JULIA - TURNER,BRANCH,10 MAR 1845,---,--- ROSE - BEMIS,FRED J GANKA,BERRIEN,25 AUG 1900,CTY REC# 0894,--- SARAH - BEMIS,FRANK - RUSSELL,?-UNKNOWN,04 JAN 1891,CTY REC# 0320,--- SARAH J BEMIS,HENRY T SHETE,BAY,17 SEP 1880,---,--- WALLACE - BEMIS,LUELLA - CURTIS,IONIA,09 OCT 1879,---,--- WILLIAM - BEMIS,ABI ANNA KELLOGG,KENT,16 APR 1844,---,--- Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links: http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/ GenWeb Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/marriages/michigan/michigan.htm ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bemis and Mulliken Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1275.1.1 Message Board Post: Iva, Alonzo S. Mulliken, son of Charles and Syphia Amelia (Yates) Mulliken, was born 14 Feb 1842 in Hudson, Lenawee Co., MI and died 30 Jul 1930 in Fremont, MI, age 88. He was buried in West Cemetery in Hesperia, MI. He was a farmer. He fought during the Civil War in Michigan Company G, 2nd Cavalry, joining as an 18 year-old private. He was promoted to full sergeant and then to full corporal. He was a member of the Star Masonic Lodge, No. 93 in Osseo, Michigan and transferred to the Hesperia Lodge No. 346 in 1900 and became a life member in 1910. Alonzo married Mary Eveline Bemis 04 Jul 1866 in Cambria Twp., Hillsdale Co., MI. They were parents of six children: Jennie Mulliken, Nora M. Mulliken, ? Mulliken, Arthur Alonzo Mulliken, Iva Elsie Mulliken (whom you know well) and Floyd Mulliken. Let me know if you need more info on the kids. Mary Eveline Bemis, daughter of S. Bemis and Sallie Sawyer, was born 15 Dec 1847 in NY and died 23 Jan 1937 in Denver Twp., MI., age 89. She was buried next to Alonzo. I don't know Mary's father's full name. He died when Mary was a baby. S. and Sally moved to Michigan in the 1840s or early 1850s. Sallie Sawyer was born in NY about 1816. I don't have her death date. S. and Sallie were parents of 5 children: Mariah Louise Bemis, born 22 May 1837 in Clarendon, Orleans Co., NY; d. 31 Mar 1918 in Marshall, Calhoun Co., MI, age 80. She married Samuel Richard Lusk in Hillsdale in 1858. Harriet Bemis, born circa 1839. Frank Bemis, born 1842. Jane Bemis, born in 1844. She married Mr. Champan and they lived in Chicago, IL. Mary Eveline Bemis, born 15 Dec 1847 in NY; d. in 1937 in Michigan. Married Alonzo Mulliken in 1866. Terri Mulliken Allen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bemis & Mulliken Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1275.1 Message Board Post: Iva, What is it you are looking for? I have a lot of info on this family. Let me know what you want to know. Terri Mulliken Allen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bemis mulliken Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1275 Message Board Post: Any one have any conection to Mary Bemis she married Alonzo Mulliken july 4 1866 in Summerset center Date of dirth Dec 15 1847 in New York Any help would be great seem to have come to a dead end!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gFB.2ACE/1273.1 Message Board Post: You can purchase the death certificate from the link below. Cert. will show burial place as well as other personal info. Cert. is also available from the county clerk's office in which he died. State of Michigan Death Certificate Request Link: http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/DEATHAPP.HTM REQUESTING A MICHIGAN DEATH RECORD The Michigan Vital Records office has records of deaths that occurred in Michigan and were filed with the state since 1867. Some of the records were not filed with the state; more records are missing from the pre-1916 files. Anyone is eligible to request a copy of a Michigan death record if the application is completed and signed and the required fee paid.

BROWN, FANCHER, MEAD, SHELDON, and SNODGRASS families Abraham and Mary (Knapp) VAN SCOY were born in Westchester County, New York, in the late 1700s. In the 1830s they moved to Huron County, Ohio. They were preceded to Huron County, Ohio, by her father Brundage KNAPP and later joined by his first cousins, Cornelius and James Van Scoy. Some children of Abraham and Mary (Knapp) Van Scoy: (1) Sally Ann Van Scoy was born in 1812. She married James DURY in 1832 in Huron County, Ohio. James and Sally Dury's daughter Mary married William Fenner SHELDON in 1853 in Huron County. In 1880 William and Mary Sheldon and family were living in Amboy Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan. In 1920 a daughter of William and Mary Sheldon, Lucinda Salmon was living with her husband William in Camden Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan. Also in 1920 a granddaughter of William and Mary Sheldon, Beulah BROWN, was living with her father Otis Brown, her stepmother, and 3 step brothers in Amboy Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan. In 1930 a grandson of William and Mary Sheldon, Victor Sheldon, was living in Hillsdale Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan, with his wife Florence and daughter Patricia. (2) Mary Ann Van Scoy was born in 1816. She married William FANCHER in 1833 in Huron County, Ohio. She died in 1866. In 1870 William Fancher was living with his second wife, Phebe, and some of his and Mary's children in Camden Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan. (3) Priscilla Van Scoy was born about 1817. She married Edward MEAD in 1837 in Huron County, Ohio. Edward and Priscilla Mead had two children, George and Alice. In 1866 Alice married James SNODGRASS. In 1870 Edward, Priscilla, George, and Geroge's wife Mary were living in one household in Camden Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan. In 1880 Edward and Priscilla Mead, Alice Snodgrass, and Alice's children Eva and Ida were living in one household in Camden Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan. Alice's occupation is listed as postmistress. George and Mary Mead and their son Melvin were also living in Camden County in 1880. (4) Abraham Brundage Van Scoy was born in 1827. In 1860 he and his wife Matilda were living in Camden Township, Hillsdale County, Michigan. In 1907 descendants of the Van Scoy and Knapp families formed the VanScoy-Knapp Reunion. We met annually until the mid 1960s. This summer we are meeting again in celebration of the bicentennial of Ohio statehood. If you are a descendant of any of these families, please join us in Willard, Ohio, on Saturday, August 16, 2003, for our reunion, or send a note which we can share with those who attend. For details, please contact me at francesvanscoy@aol.com or vsk03@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1272.1 Message Board Post: Checked in my Hillsdale County Burial book - there are only George, Kitty and Mary listed in there. There are alot of Knickerbockers in Calhoun Co, Clarendon Twp., I have the burials for the Bentley Corners cemetery as well as the Fairview Cemetery in Homer and although there are about twenty buried in the Bentley Corner cemetery I don't find a Charles or Louise.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dillon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gFB.2ACE/385.400 Message Board Post: Pat, I just finished going through Lickly's Corner Cemetery in Wright Twp., and I found the graves of Alonzo C. and Mary E. Dillon. If I find any of your other names, I'll let you know. I'm looking for info on Joshua and Ann (Aldrich) Dillon, who built our house in Wright Twp., close to Alonzo and Mary.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/gFB.2ACE/1274 Message Board Post: I am looking for an old family friend that contacted me about 5 years ago. We lost touch when I moved and he moved from Dearborn about five years ago and believe that he told me he was moving to Hillsdale county. His name is Charlie--sometimes goes by Chuck. He is maltese (some people thinks he looks Italian). He is approximately 65 is married and has about 5 grown children. He was once a part-time college professor/student at UM Dearborn of Henry Ford Community College. He was also a delivery truck driver for many years in the 70's and 80's It is very important to me to contact him as he helped me out many times and I did not have a chance to properly thank him. If you see this and think you may know him please tell him about this message. I do not know if he uses the internet. Please tell him that Marie Arnold's daughter Nancy is looking for him. I live in Brighton,MI and would like to be in touch with him. Thank you for any help! Nancy Arnold Vasilofski Colesmom7842@comcast.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Haynes, Spencer, Paddock, Stites, Miller, Amsbaugh, Athey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1250.1 Message Board Post: Thanks to Jenna`s observation in the 1870 Hillsdale, Wdbrg MI. census -John Spencer 38 b.NY.& Harriet 24 b.MI., Thurza 15 b.Ohio, Rose 13 b.MI, Ruth 2 b.MI. So I looked at all Thurza`s in Michigan on the 1880 census. Hundreds later I found a Theresa who had mar. Alfred Haynes and was living in Woodbridge. Her age was right, parents b. NY. (1st wife), They were farming. Their first dau. was named Harriet (the grandmother`s name who came to MI. from Ohio ) age 8. And Mary Hayes age 6. Then on the 1910 census from Hlsdle, Camden twp., the child Edward Spencer (1880 census )probably is the Edward Spencer of Hlsdale, Camden twp. His wife is a barely legible Rowena, they have two daus., names can`t be read. Is the Haynes family familiar to anyone? I did notice a large number of Haynes in Hillsdale Co. More cousins in the same area are Stites, Ritchie, Paddock, Miller, Plopper, more. ws

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: FORD, BITGOOD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1273 Message Board Post: Looking for burial place of Augustus Ford, father of Irving Augustus Ford, born 4/23/1869 in Assyria Twp, Barry Co., MI.Spouse of Augustus was Lydia E. Bitgood.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gFB.2ACE/1231.1.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I've started to go through what you sent. Quite a bit of information. I do not known alot about these Hillsdale Stanleys, but I think I am looking for descendants of Thomas Ewing and Cora Stanley. Some of what you sent was of Thomas' family and I am unable to use it for this project but will keep it for future use. Your work is very much appreciated. David