HI to all, Please understand the duplications of mailings you may get of this due to what mailing lists you are on. The following counties have been moved::::::::::::: from AOL to my own domain of http://grandtraverseregion.com/ There is a temporary splash page with links to the four counties http://grandtraverseregion.com/benzie http://grandtraverseregion.com/grand Traverse http://grandtraverseregion.com/kalkaska http://grandtraverseregion.com/leelanau Now.. my big question is, seeing as I have not moved before, who are all the people I need to send this update to. I am sending this to .. MIGEN and county mailing list I have. and am hoping that this, MIGENWEB list, will catch all the fellow MI cc's. NOW>> keep in mind, Not all the glitches have been found and taken care of. I have a couple graphics giving me fits and need to reproof all. But it is slowly coming along. I have found and copied the entire Book I of the Coroner's records for Grand Traverse County. This will be put online in its order on the list. Birth index of Grand Traverse is also in a creation stage. I do have photocopied all of the alphabet EXCEPT>>>> part of m. n. p. q. r. t. and z and k. Scanned images of up to ca1920 of about 10 letters. So, with Grand Traverse County Clerk having the marriage and death records online. This index will be a great asset and completion of this are of records. The index and records are available at the Family History Centers. There are are more projects waiting to go online; one is the Feb 1895 to Oct 1895 Fife Lake Monitor newspaper extractions, which in Word amounts to 185 pages. As soon as my film reader is replaced by company this project will be continued on. As all of you, I too, have more projects in the works this group knows, it is time consuming and slow for the most part. Benzie and Leelanau are my new additions so will be seeking info for those. Homer Thiel has sent the link for his newspaper readings on Benzie but I am looking for data to put online, if anyone has anything to share. A new gal has been sending data for the Kalkaska list which will be a great asset as it is letters, diaries and misc things so far. YEHA~ Of course, without saying, if anyone knows of typist?... Sorry for the long winded session and thanks for all your support Brenda Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore Ancestral Lineages by Kingsley http://genealogypro.com/kingsley.html kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

"J.M. (Jay) Ingalls" wrote: > The message below provides some good info. > Jay > From: "Gord Hines" <ghines@sk.sympatico.ca> > To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Privacy and Genealogy on the Internet [including mail list groups]: > Something to Consider > Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 6:21 PM > > Hi All -- Sharing genealogical information can be quite fulfilling and > rewarding... > > However, some recent postings on several mail lists have included data on > LIVING INDIVIDUALS, including CHILDREN. I am concerned that some, > perhaps just beginning genealogy and family history, are unaware of the > potential > harm they might be creating for their living relatives. (Shortened) Okay, first of all DO NOT take this as a FLAME or HATE mail because that IS NOT what I intended. I don't want the threat of being reported to the Rootsweb police because of a misunderstanding. Okay, I understand that there are WACK-Os out there that could use the info provided the wrong way. What I don't like is finding a possible link to family members but then SLAMMING face first into the wall because the info. that is private like on FTM. I can understand if you don't have the information, but darn it I can eliminate 50-75% of the people if the info. wasn't privatized. If you don't want to give me death dates I can live with that, but can I have a place of birth or a birth year at least! With just that I can narrow it down even more. Also, maybe I what to contact them because there are too many similarities and OOPS! no info. so I can't contact you sorry, you can't find your relatives!!! Can you understand how irritating that can be? I think you can because I'm sure you have come across it. There are an can be measures put in place so only registered users get the information and they should be held accountable for their actions. Sorry, if I stepped or stomped on any toes. Kim Pollard Still looking for "Jerry" Palmer/(Possibly) Jeremiah b. 1883 and Nathan S. Palmer b. 1885 to Parents Edwin/ Edward and Lydia Jane (Irish) Palmer in Grand Traverse City.

The message below provides some good info. Jay From: "Gord Hines" <ghines@sk.sympatico.ca> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Privacy and Genealogy on the Internet [including mail list groups]: Something to Consider Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 6:21 PM Hi All -- Sharing genealogical information can be quite fulfilling and rewarding... However, some recent postings on several mail lists have included data on LIVING INDIVIDUALS, including CHILDREN. I am concerned that some, perhaps just beginning genealogy and family history, are unaware of the potential harm they might be creating for their living relatives. I hope you all will agree and indulge me in this departure from the more customary postings to this list. It is not my intent to start an extended dialog on the topic on this list. I simply want to bring this to the attention of those who might not given the matter too much thought. This is a plea to each list member that you DO NOT POST information about LIVING individuals into these public forums without their knowledge and consent .... and especially NOT FOR LIVING CHILDREN, EVER! Children's rights to their own privacy as adults should not be compromised by their parents nor by any other relatives [aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents etc.].. For an excellent example of a "policy" that can serve as a guide for all genealogists [whether beginner, seasoned amateur and professional], see this Texas GenWeb site: < http://home.sprynet.com/~harrisfarm/warning.htm > There are several links on this TXGenWeb page that will connect you to more explanations of issues dealing with Privacy and Civil Liberties in the internet environment. Major concerns relate to identity theft and to compromising personal privacy of others [without their consent]. Once "out there" on the www [e.g. on a homepage, in an email list archive, or in a Gedcom file uploaded to any of dozens of genealogy database websites] any information on living individuals moves permanently into the public domain.... "once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it can't be put back in" This applies to personal information once "published" or otherwise "let loose" into the public arena. There is no way to retrieve the information and restore it to its original "private" and "unpublished" condition. Many parents today even avoid birth announcements in newspapers -- although these are slowly being transcribed and posted on-line at various sites. While they might seem to be innocuous today, they can lead to troubles in the future.... not for everyone, to be sure.... but for some, for certain. So I implore you all.... become familiar with personal privacy issues and concerns with this (new) internet technology.... and do NOT POST information about LIVING individuals into these public forums without their knowledge and consent .... and especially NOT FOR CHILDREN EVER. Their rights to their own privacy as adults should not be compromised by their parents or any other relatives. A very good article on this topic, titled "ADVENTURES IN CYBERSPACE", by Myra Vanderpool Gormley, can be seen at < http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree07-09-98.htm > It is also illustrative to look at requirements in the "CODE OF CONDUCT OF THE AMATEUR GENEALOGIST" for Member States of the European Union, at < http://www.genealogyprivacy.org/en/ch3v10en.html > The homepage (English language) contains added relevant information, at < http://www.genealogyprivacy.org/en/homepage.html > // Regards, Gord Hines (in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada) ps: You should be equally careful about sending data for any living individuals in (so-called) "personal" email to new-found cousins or others researching your family lineages. A high level of trust or, better yet, a "formal agreement" or understanding about use of the data on living persons should exist before such data is provided. There are many stories about data on living individuals being freely given to cousins and that turns up a year or so later on some genealogy company's CD archive [for sale!] or in a Gedcom file posted for free download in the public domain! // grh

<A HREF="http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/tEnumInstr.html">Click here: Enumerator Instructions</A> http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/tEnumInstr.html gives some insight on questions for census.. brenda Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore Ancestral Lineages by Kingsley http://genealogypro.com/kingsley.html kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

Good Morning everyone.. The snow has stopped.. but is the storm over? Only Mother Nature knows.. March in like a lion and out like a lamb???? ;) TO UNSUB OR SUB First.. refer to the welcome list that you received when you joined the list... second.. the procedure is the same for any rootsweb list.. just change the state and county;;;;;; is MIWEXFOR = WIMONROE - only the first 6 letters of the county..... ie wexfor ; monroe; ie vernon... always six letters.. and the state is always..... the state abbreviations... MI, MN, WI, VA etc... so at any time you can work out the email address if you cannot locate you welcome.. tip: make a file folder.... Welcome........... always save the welcome by clicking on Save as: Name the file by county or country or subject save into the file Welcome and they will always be there........ at least one as the system is the same for all states.. as explained above. This will save cc's alot of time and allow them to work on webpages and not be taking care of others business that can be done by the individual themselves. As it is with anything one person.. is quick.. but when you have dozens... the time builds up fast........ so help us help you! TO SUBSCRIBE: email address WIVERNON-L-request@rootsweb.com TO UNSUB same address the only difference.. if you are on the Individual use the L if on DIGEST... .replace L with D............ type ONLY subscribe or unscribe in the body of email May I say thanks for all the mailing list co-ordinators that maintain the lists for all of us. Brenda Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore Ancestral Lineages by Kingsley http://genealogypro.com/kingsley.html kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

Boot and shoe maker, perhaps. As the clock struck 09:06 PM 2/27/2001 -0600, Kim Pollard took pen in hand and wrote: >Does anyone know if there was an occupation such as a Book & Shoe >maker? I have come across a possible relative and the writing on the >census isn't the best but it looks like Book and Shoe Maker. Any help? >If you need to look this up Edward Palmer, Washtenaw Co., Ypasilanti >Ward 1, Roll 707-708 Page 485 Line 2 at >http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census they will show you a copy >of a census page. > >Thanks, >Kim Pollard >Drew, Ms. -- ================================================= James P. Robinson III jprobins@ix.netcom.com All original material contained herein is copyright and property of the author. It may be quoted only in discussions on this forum and with an attribution to the author, unless permission is otherwise expressly given in writing. =================================================

Does anyone know if there was an occupation such as a Book & Shoe maker? I have come across a possible relative and the writing on the census isn't the best but it looks like Book and Shoe Maker. Any help? If you need to look this up Edward Palmer, Washtenaw Co., Ypasilanti Ward 1, Roll 707-708 Page 485 Line 2 at http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census they will show you a copy of a census page. Thanks, Kim Pollard Drew, Ms.

I don't know who or what Stampin' Up is? I'm trying to find more on the Caleb Irish family, Palmer family (Edward/Edwin, Lydia J. nee irish, Jerry, Nathan, Orinda) and the Caster family. All of whom can be found on the 1870 census, except the kids of Edwin and Lydia since they were born after 1880. Kim Pollard Drew, Ms. Tom and Vicky Westra wrote: > funny ? here but are you with Stampin' UP!??? Please let me know, I also > reasearch GT Co. > Vicky Westra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Pollard" <merick@cableone.net> > To: <MIGRANDT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:41 PM > Subject: [MIGRANDT-L] Help with an occupation > > > While I was looking up a family name on the 1870 census I came across a > > occupation I can't make out. There are two people from the same family > > that have the same occupation. Here goes... Looks like Sirne Burner I > > can tell that there is only one dotted "I" and his "U, N E, R"'s all > > look closely the same. If anyone needs to look it up it is page 317 > > Charles Irish and Chester Irish line 35, 37 of the Ingham Co. White Oak > > twp. roll 675. > > http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/ > > > > Thanks Kim Pollard > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Vicky Westra" <tvwwestra1@home.com> To: <MIGRANDT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MIGRANDT-L] Help with an occupation > funny ? here but are you with Stampin' UP!??? Please let me know, I also > reasearch GT Co. > Vicky Westra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Pollard" <merick@cableone.net> > To: <MIGRANDT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:41 PM > Subject: [MIGRANDT-L] Help with an occupation > > > > While I was looking up a family name on the 1870 census I came across a > > occupation I can't make out. There are two people from the same family > > that have the same occupation. Here goes... Looks like Sirne Burner I > > can tell that there is only one dotted "I" and his "U, N E, R"'s all > > look closely the same. If anyone needs to look it up it is page 317 > > Charles Irish and Chester Irish line 35, 37 of the Ingham Co. White Oak > > twp. roll 675. > > http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/ > > > > Thanks Kim Pollard > > >

funny ? here but are you with Stampin' UP!??? Please let me know, I also reasearch GT Co. Vicky Westra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Pollard" <merick@cableone.net> To: <MIGRANDT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: [MIGRANDT-L] Help with an occupation > While I was looking up a family name on the 1870 census I came across a > occupation I can't make out. There are two people from the same family > that have the same occupation. Here goes... Looks like Sirne Burner I > can tell that there is only one dotted "I" and his "U, N E, R"'s all > look closely the same. If anyone needs to look it up it is page 317 > Charles Irish and Chester Irish line 35, 37 of the Ingham Co. White Oak > twp. roll 675. > http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/ > > Thanks Kim Pollard >

Could it be a Boot and Shoe maker? - Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Pollard <merick@cableone.net> To: <MIGRANDT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: [MIGRANDT-L] was there an occupation...? > Does anyone know if there was an occupation such as a Book & Shoe > maker? I have come across a possible relative and the writing on the > census isn't the best but it looks like Book and Shoe Maker. Any help? > If you need to look this up Edward Palmer, Washtenaw Co., Ypasilanti > Ward 1, Roll 707-708 Page 485 Line 2 at > http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census they will show you a copy > of a census page. > > Thanks, > Kim Pollard > Drew, Ms. >

While I was looking up a family name on the 1870 census I came across a occupation I can't make out. There are two people from the same family that have the same occupation. Here goes... Looks like Sirne Burner I can tell that there is only one dotted "I" and his "U, N E, R"'s all look closely the same. If anyone needs to look it up it is page 317 Charles Irish and Chester Irish line 35, 37 of the Ingham Co. White Oak twp. roll 675. http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/ Thanks Kim Pollard

I have spent most of the day at this site. I have found numorous relatives here and does anyone know if some of the other libraries have this info for there states? Or do they have other years done yet? Kim Pollard KINGSLEY@aol.com wrote: > Hi... > <A > HREF="http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/PatronHelpNewImages.asp"> > Click here: 1870 Census - Compiled and presented by the Library of Michigan > </A> > >From Eastmans Newsletters > > Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > Ancestral Lineages by Kingsley > http://genealogypro.com/kingsley.html > > kingsley@aol.com > http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html > surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, > Leguerre, Vallee and and

Hi... <A HREF="http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/PatronHelpNewImages.asp"> Click here: 1870 Census - Compiled and presented by the Library of Michigan </A> >From Eastmans Newsletters Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore Ancestral Lineages by Kingsley http://genealogypro.com/kingsley.html kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

Elmer A. BATES and visiting in June Date: 2/22/01 5:52:13 PM Eastern Standard Time From: lataylo@cablespeed.com (Lee Taylor) To: MIKALKAS-L@rootsweb.com My great-grandfather was Elmer A. Bates (actually, his name was Marion Alpheus Elmer Bates, his wife even called him "MAE", but he seemed to prefer the handle Elmer A. Bates on official paperwork). Apparently, he was the supervisor of Excelsior Township early in this century (before 1907). We know a fair bit about the Bates family and have some paperwork that might be of interest to local historians. My father and I expect to visit the area around the 22nd of June, and we were wondering what resources (libraries, museums, etc.) are worth visiting in the area, especially if it would help us to find property owned by Elmer A. Bates or his father Chambers S. Bates. The Bates families lived in Lawrence County, TN until 1894, when Chambers Bates somehow procured some land from a man from Kalkaska County (I think it was a straight up trade for the land the Bates family owned in TN). The Bates family lived in Kalkaska County (perhaps Antrim County as well) until Chambers died in 1907, when the Bates family (Elmer's family and Chambers' widow, Emily, who lived until 1930) moved to Ashtabula County, OH. We know that Emily returned to Kalkaska at least once after they left (I have her journals from 1911-1930) and my great aunt, Helen Bates, maintained some sort of correspondence with a teach at the high school that her father helped to get going in Excelsior Township. I'm also looking for any narrative histories that include stories about these Bates families and their dealings in Michigan during this time period. Associated family names are Edwards, Way, Miller and Newell. Lee Taylor Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore Ancestral Lineages by Kingsley http://genealogypro.com/kingsley.html kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

I'm sure all of you know this already, but I wanted to warn you if you didn't. The Snow White story that has been passed from HAHAHA is infected with a virus in the attactment Dwarf4U. Get rid of it fast. If I have passed this on I am truely sorry. Be sure to rid it from your deleted folder too. Kim I received this wriet up and thought it was interesting. Symantec AntiVirus Research Center (SARC) http://www.symantec.com/avcenter W95.Hybris.Plugin Discovered on: December 21, 2000 Last Updated on: January 25, 2001 at 12:28:33 PM PST W95.Hybris.plugin is a generic detection for any of the encrypted plug-ins that are downloaded by the W95.Hybris.gen worm. Category: Worm Virus Definitions: December 21, 2000 Threat Assessment: Wild: High Damage: Low Distribution: High Wild: Number of infections: 50 - 999 Number of sites: More than 10 Geographical distribution: Medium Threat containment: Moderate Removal: Moderate Technical description: After infecting a system, the W95.Hybris.gen worm attempts to connect to the newsgroup alt.comp.virus. If the worm connects successfully, it does the following: 1. Uploads its own encrypted plug-ins to this newsgroup. 2. Goes through the subject headers of the newsgroup messages, looks for other attached plug-ins, and tries to match a specific format. The subject header will specify the version number of the attached plug-in. 3. If a newer version of a plug-in is found, the worm downloads the more recent module and updates it's behavior. NOTE: There are numerous plug-ins available, and they have different characteristics. The most common one displays a large spiral that covers the Windows desktop and prevents you from using Windows. Another plug-in has similar behavior, but displays a solid black circle. The plug-ins may do one or more of the following: Generates a spiral image. Depending on system date and time (September 16 and 24, and on 59 minutes of each hour starting in 2001), the spiral image file is run. Upon execution, this plug-in initially loads OpenGL libraries that are used to display a large black and white spiral image. It also registers itself as a service, which prevents the process from being displayed in the Close Program dialog box. Infects DOS executable programs. The DOS .exe infection is a fairly simple dropping technique. The virus code is appended to the end of the file with a small 16-bit dropper routine. This routine creates a temporary file with an .exe extension in the \Temp folder, and then executes it. After that, the routine deletes the temporary executable. This infects the Wsock32.dll file with the worm. Infects PE executable programs. The PE executable has a much more complicated file infection routine. Only large PE files that have a code section long enough will be infected. The virus infection plug-in packs the original code area and overwrites it, if it will fit in the same place. This complicated antiheuristic infection technique is difficult (but not impossible) to repair. Currently SARC detects this plug-in as W95.Hybris.F. A removal tool has been created to remove this plug-in. Click here to obtain the W95.HybrisF fix tool. Infects all .zip and .rar archives on all available drives from C: to Z:. While infecting the .zip and .rar files, the worm renames .exe files in the archive to .ex$ extensions, and adds its copy of the worm to the archive with a .exe extension (this is the companion method of infection). Sends messages with encoded plug-ins to the alt.comp.virus newsgroup, and then gets new plug-ins from there. Spreads the worm to remote computers that are infected with the Backdoor.SubSeven Trojan. The plug-in detects such computers on the Web, and by using SubSeven commands, uploads a copy of the worm to the SubSeven infected computer. Encrypts worm copies with polymorphic encryption loop before sending the copy to others as an email attachment. Removal instructions: General removal instructions: 1. Run LiveUpdate to make sure that you have the most recent virus definitions. 2. Make sure that Norton AntiVirus is set to scan all files. 3. Restart the computer in Safe mode (Windows 95/98/Me). 4. Run a full system scan. If Norton AntiVirus detects W32.HybrisF, reboot into Normal mode and download and run the W95.HybrisF fix tool. This tool will repair any Windows executable files that have been infected by the W32.HybrisF.plugin. If Norton AntiVirus detects an infection other than W32.HybrisF, choose to repair any infected files. If Norton AntiVirus cannot repair the files, choose to delete them. 5. When the scan is finished, reboot into Normal Mode. Removal instructions for the black and white spiral or black circle: The spiral or circle loads from the run= line of the Win.ini file. In most cases, because the spiral will prevent you from opening programs, you need to: 1. Run LiveUpdate and run a full system scan. 2. Restart the computer in Safe mode. 3. Make sure Windows is set to show all files. 4. Remove the reference to the plug-in from the Run line of the Win.ini file. 5. Find and delete the plug-in itself. To update an scan: 1. Run LiveUpdate to make sure that you have the latest virus definitions. 2. Run a full system scan. To restart the computer in Safe mode: Windows 95: 1. Exit all programs. 2. Click Start, and then click Shut Down. The Shut Down Windows dialog box appears. 3. Click Restart, and then click OK. 4. When "Starting Windows 95..." appears on the screen, press F8. The Windows 95 Startup Menu appears. 5. Press the number that corresponds to Safe mode, and then press Enter. Windows will start in Safe mode. Windows 98: 1. Click Start, and then click Run. 2. Type msconfig and then click OK. The System Configuration Utility dialog box appears. 3. Click Advanced on the General tab. 4. Check Enable Startup Menu, click OK, and then click OK again. 5. Exit all programs. 6. Click Start, and then click Shut Down. The Shut Down Windows dialog box appears. 7. Click Restart, and then click OK. The computer restarts. 8. When the Windows 95 Startup Menu appears, press the number that corresponds to Safe mode, and then press Enter. Windows will start in Safe mode. To set Windows to show all files: 1. Start Windows Explorer. 2. Click the View menu (Windows 95/98) or the Tools menu (Windows Me), and then click Options or Folder Options. 3. Click the View tab, and uncheck, if necessary, Hide file extensions for known file types. 4. Click Show all files and click OK. To edit the Win.ini file: 1. Click Start, and then click Run. 2. Type sysedit and then click OK. 3. Click the title bar of the Win.ini file. 4. In the [windows] section, locate the Run= line, and note what follows the = sign. For example, you may see: run=C:\Windows\System\amiaamia.exe Write down the file name, for example, amiaamia.exe. 5. Place the cursor to the right of the = sign and delete the text that follows it. When finished, it should look like: run= 6. Click the File menu, and then click Exit. Click Yes when prompted to save changes. To delete the plug-in file: 1. Click Start, point to Find, and then click Files or Folders. 2. Make sure that Look in is set to (C:) and that Include subfolders is checked. 3. In the Named box, type the file name that you wrote down in step 7. 4. Click Find Now. 5. When the file is found, select it, press Delete, and then click Yes to confirm. 6. Restart the computer in normal mode. NOTE: The file name that is referred to in step 7 is an example only. The plug-in that makes the entry in the Win.ini file creates a somewhat random file name. (It is not completely random, as multiple cases of the same file name have been reported.) The file name will usually consist of eight letters with the .exe extension. The name consists of a sequence of four letters which are then repeated. For example: Gbpkgbpk.exe Aboaaboa.exe Enpeenpe.exe Agaiagai.exe NOTE: For Windows 98 users only, if you used the Microsoft System Configuration Utility to enable the startup menu, then you can disable it at this time. Please follow these steps to do so: 1. Click Start, and then click Run. 2. Type msconfig and then click OK. The System Configuration Utility dialog box appears. 3. Click Advanced on the General tab. 4. Uncheck Enable Startup Menu, click OK, and then click OK again. 5. Restart the computer. If Norton AntiVirus continues to detect the plug-ins: If NAV continues to detect the plug-ins after the previous removal steps have been followed, please do the following: NOTE: You must be using NAV 5.0 or later. 1. Restart the computer in Safe mode. 2. Click Start, point to Find, and then click Files or Folders. 3. Make sure that Look in is set to (C:) and that Include subfolders is checked. 4. In the Named box, type the following and then click Find Now: wsock32.dll Windows will find the file and display it in the lower pane of the Find dialog box. 5. Right-click the Wsock32.dll file, and then click Copy. 6. Close the Find: All Files window. 7. Right-click the Windows desktop (or the folder of your choice) and then click Paste. 8. Start Norton AntiVirus and quarantine the new copy of the wsock32.dll and submit it to SARC for analysis using Scan and Deliver. 9. 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I found this on another mailing list and it details to some degree plans for upgrading/updating http://www.familysearch.org this year. "Robert E. Givens" wrote: As an FYI item, the Church News of January 20 has an article entitled: A billion names soon to be accessible Online. It quotes Bro. Richard E Turley, Jr., who is the managing director of the Family and Church History Department (i.e.- our boss). It reads: "Beginning in February, a massive new stream of uploads to the site will bring the total of online names to 1 billion, expected by the end of the year. Included in these uploads will be 2.2 million records of middle America-Mexico, the Sweden records of the Scandinavian Vital Records Index with 1.1 million names, the Social Security Death Index with 64 million names and most significantly, an update of the Church's International Genealogical Index, with an addition of 125 million names. Vital records from other areas will follow. Uploads such as these will be ongoing throughout the year, and patrons should check frequently to see if information they need has been added recently." Other facts that were mentioned - The Family History Library has more than 2.16 million rolls of film, 173,795 sets of fiche, 288,000 books, 14,000 serials and 8,000 maps. The Church has 300 cameras in nearly 50 countries capturing 75 to 80 million images a year. There are 30,000 extractors working around the world to index records. In 1999 the collection at the FHL increased by 4,100 rolls of film and 700 books. There are more than 3,500 family history centers in 75 countries that order 70,000 rolls of film a month. The church is adding some 200 centers per year. Now that is a great article. Better than all the rumors we hear all the time. Bob Givens, Director Fresno California North Stake FHC Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore kingsley@aol.com http://members.aol.com/fiddlerben/gtindex.html surnames: Wolfgram, Kratochvil, Secor/Sicard, Jacques, Leguerre, Vallee and and

Kim just butting in here...... Our state library has census for all states. Have you checked your local libraries? I am in Kent County MI and would be happy to look up something up for you next time I get to Lansing. Sally ---------- From: Kim Pollard <merick@cableone.net> To: MIGRANDT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIGRANDT-L] Jerry Palmer Date: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:03 AM I appreciate the novice advice, but I have for some of the places, but I haven't had the money yet to buy the census cd for Grand Traverse County yet. I was hoping someone there might help with some of the "local" search first. Because I don't know when I'll be able to travel to the county to look up stuff at the library microfilm. Living in Mississippi it is kind of hard to do that and when I do go visit my mother she lives in Menasha, Wisconsin and if you look at the map that is still too far away to make a day trip to the library or even if I went to Marquette, Mi. the same thing holds there as well. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have two children 4 yr. and 18 months that I had to be back to in a day! Kim "J.M. (Jay) Ingalls" wrote: > Kim, > > You need to do one of the most important things in genealogy research: Look > at all Federal and State Census records for the places your families lived! > Especially 1850-1920. In two more years, the 1930 census will be available. > The 1890 census burned, but some of the data is available from other > sources. > > Do not use just the Census index, read the actual census pages. Indexes are > often wrong or missed people. > > Jay

Kim, Many libraries have census data for their area, some for the whole or most of the U.S. You should not need to buy a CD. Our Orlando FL library has all census data, but not all the indexes. We have not been able to get there to do research for some time due to health and other reasons. Ancestry.com and other on-line sites are working hard at putting census data on line. They will be charging for the use of the data. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Pollard" <merick@cableone.net> To: <MIGRANDT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [MIGRANDT-L] Jerry Palmer > I appreciate the novice advice, but I have for some of the places, but I > haven't had the money yet to buy the census cd for Grand Traverse County yet. > I was hoping someone there might help with some of the "local" search first. > Because I don't know when I'll be able to travel to the county to look up stuff > at the library microfilm. Living in Mississippi it is kind of hard to do that > and when I do go visit my mother she lives in Menasha, Wisconsin and if you > look at the map that is still too far away to make a day trip to the library or > even if I went to Marquette, Mi. the same thing holds there as well. It > wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have two children 4 yr. and 18 months that I had > to be back to in a day! > Kim > > "J.M. (Jay) Ingalls" wrote: > > > Kim, > > > > You need to do one of the most important things in genealogy research: Look > > at all Federal and State Census records for the places your families lived! > > Especially 1850-1920. In two more years, the 1930 census will be available. > > The 1890 census burned, but some of the data is available from other > > sources. > > > > Do not use just the Census index, read the actual census pages. Indexes are > > often wrong or missed people. > > > > Jay >

I appreciate the novice advice, but I have for some of the places, but I haven't had the money yet to buy the census cd for Grand Traverse County yet. I was hoping someone there might help with some of the "local" search first. Because I don't know when I'll be able to travel to the county to look up stuff at the library microfilm. Living in Mississippi it is kind of hard to do that and when I do go visit my mother she lives in Menasha, Wisconsin and if you look at the map that is still too far away to make a day trip to the library or even if I went to Marquette, Mi. the same thing holds there as well. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have two children 4 yr. and 18 months that I had to be back to in a day! Kim "J.M. (Jay) Ingalls" wrote: > Kim, > > You need to do one of the most important things in genealogy research: Look > at all Federal and State Census records for the places your families lived! > Especially 1850-1920. In two more years, the 1930 census will be available. > The 1890 census burned, but some of the data is available from other > sources. > > Do not use just the Census index, read the actual census pages. Indexes are > often wrong or missed people. > > Jay