In a message dated 7/2/02 8:36:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Taybridge@aol.com writes: > > Pam, > > I have a scanned image/obituary for a Clark B. DIBBLE, born about 1860 in > Fenton/Dibbleville. Died in 1932 in Flint, Michigan. It may help with > your > research. Now that would be interesting. Someone sent me some information > and it said that Clark DIBBLE and Huldah BAILEY >DIBBLE (his wife) both > died 22 June 1842. > > Let me know and I can send it to your e-address as an attachment. Yes > please do. I would love to see this obit. If you don't mind me asking, how > did you find this obit? The reason I ask is because I have been looking for > an obit on a John or possibly Charles HEATH who drowned in Michigan. He was > married to a Hattie BROWN. But Hattie/Adda could be a nickname, and her > real name might be Olive Adelade who married a William Murry BROWN. I > started out finding out who Peter JONES wife Lydia maiden name was. Some > one found it as AUSTIN. And of course Hattie is a daughter of Lydia's and > Hattie did marry what was written on a photo a Charley HEATH and he > drowned. However someone sent me a marriage date for Olive who married a > John HEATH. Then it said she married a William Murry BROWN. But it was > found an Olive who married a William Murry BROWN. This family seems to have > a lot of nicknames. So if I can find an orbit just maybe it might mention > the wife's name. That is why I asked thinking you might know how to find > his orbit. Thanks for your help. > > God Bless > Pam > > Good luck, > > Jim Simpson > taybridge@aol.com >

talked to an ancestor of Clark Dibble, his wife Huldah Bailey, is not the Huldah that married Jerimah Austin. Marge has never heard of another Huldah Dibble, but says there could have been in one of Clark's brothers children. I went and checked on the records and didn't find anything further. There is alot on the Clark Dibble family. Haven't had any luck so far on the other names but am not giving up. Eileen

Pam, I have a scanned image/obituary for a Clark B. DIBBLE, born about 1860 in Fenton/Dibbleville. Died in 1932 in Flint, Michigan. It may help with your research. Let me know and I can send it to your e-address as an attachment. Good luck, Jim Simpson taybridge@aol.com

Hey now, you are right your messing with my mind.. it's going in overdrive.. The names seem to fit in with this 1850 Fenton Genesse Michigan Census on Huldah AUSTIN, whose maiden name I had was DIBBLE. She was age 40 and says she was born in New York. You listed a Huldah Bailey who married a Clark DIBBLE but they are listed as dieing the same month, day and year > 22 Jun 1842 in New York. And this Census I have is for 1850. Still more confusing is the child Thomas Jefferson DIBBLE who you have listed for Huldah and Clark DIBBLE. His birth year 1830 and state of birth - New York - is the same as the child I have named Jefferson for Huldah AUSTIN in the 1850 Census I mentioned. Also is the same for the child Joel DIBBLE you have for Huldah and Clark DIBBLE. His birth year 1837 and place of birth Michigan plus the fact he was born in Fenton is right on. It is the same as the child Joel AUSTIN I have of Huldah AUSTIN in the 1850 Census I mentioned. As for the other names I have not heard of. For Huldah AUSTIN on that 1850 Census I do have an Olive and Lydia. I think Lydia AUSTIN is the Lydia I am looking for her birth year is the same as my Lydia. But what throws things way off is the fact that supposedly Huldah and Clark DIBBLE died 22 June 1842... Census was in 1850.. Now What??????????? Wonder how they both died since it was the same day...? do you know? Back to square 1? H E L P !!!!!! God Bless Pam

You know what, this is really getting weird. You say Huldah youngest daughter Olive DIBBLE, daughter of Clark DIBBLE married in 1904. On that 1850 Fenton Genesee Michigan Census information I sent you there is an Olive and Lydia. But Olive was second to last of the youngest. Lydia was the youngest. However the Olive you mention surely is not the same Olive that I have for Huldah AUSTIN on that census because she was only 6 yrs of age and that would of meant that the Olive DIBBLE would of been abt 60 years of age at the time of her marriage. Most unlikely. The Olive JONES you found does not ring any bells for me as far as being married to that person. However here we go again because your Joel DIBBLE you found, son of Huldah, I have a Joel AUSTIN on that census I mentioned along with Olive, Lydia. Jefferson being the oldest at 20 years of age and born in New York. If you found a Jefferson DIBBLE that would really be a puzzle. Finally the Lydia AUSTIN you found sounds like my Lydia AUSTIN too. She was born in AUG 1847. Here again it that 1850 Fenton Genesse Michigan Census info. on 16th ay of Sept Huldah, AUSTIN age 40 Female Value of Property:$100.00 Place of Birth: New York Jefferson age 29 Male Laborer New York Joel age 13 Male Michigan Olive age 6 Female Michigan Lydia age 3 Female Michigan God Bless Pam

Ah not so Eileen, I think genealogy puzzles like this would make anyone flip. lol Plus posting all of our conversations corresponding to the subject matter might jog someone's memory. Mine could use a lot of jogging, ha. You know it could be that Huldah could have married a Dibble in New York and had no children, divorced or her husband died. Then later married AUSTIN brothers, one being Fred in New York. Maybe one died and the other AUSTIN she married in Michigan. Like maybe Fred first then Jeremiah. That's how the first two children's last name could have stayed AUSTIN. Them after her husband died she married an Olmsted and had no other children. What do you think of that? Can't wait till your next trip, or better yet if you can talk to the g granddaughter of Huldahs. Take care and have a safe holiday God Bless Pam

Hi Folks, I really appreciate all the information that was given to me. The 1920 Michigan Burton Twp. yielded a great uncle that had simply disappeared after his parents died. Your replies have answered my question but have raised new ones. I have written to Flint Public Library to research further this ancestor. Thanks again to everyone. Beverly Takoma Park, MD

Here's some more names that will mess with your mind....grin 1. Huldah BAILEY was born 16 APR 1808, and died 22 JUN 1842. She was the daughter of 2. Elisha BAILEY. She married Clark DIBBLE 1827, son of Joel DIBBLE and Rachel WALLACE. He was born 21 DEC 1802 in NY, and died 22 JUN 1842 in NY. Children of Huldah BAILEY and Clark DIBBLE are: i. Matilda DIBBLE was born 24 JUL 1827, and died 17 DEC 1833. ii. Thomas Jefferson DIBBLE was born 14 APR 1830. He married Susan Cornelia OLMSTEAD. iii. Catherine E. DIBBLE was born 22 APR 1832. She married ? YOUNG. iv. William Warin DIBBLE was born 10 JAN 1835, and died 26 AUG 1854. v. Joel DIBBLE was born 7 APR 1837 in Fenton, Gensee County, MI, and died 15 NOV 1922 in Flint, MI. He married Sarah R. GIBSON 7 JUL 1860 in Fenton, Gensee County, MI, daughter of Joseph GIBSON and Martha WRIGHT. vi. Velda DIBBLE was born 1840. vii. Clark Turner DIBBLE was born 12 NOV 1841, and died 25 APR 1912. He married Hannah M. GIBSON 4 OCT 1868 in Fenton, Gensee County, MI, daughter of Joseph GIBSON and Martha WRIGHT. She was born 1845 in Wheatfield, MI. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 2. Elisha BAILEY. Child of Elisha BAILEY is:1. i. Huldah BAILEY was born 16 APR 1808, and died 22 JUN 1842. She married Clark DIBBLE 1827, son of Joel DIBBLE and Rachel WALLACE. He was born 21 DEC 1802 in NY, and died 22 JUN 1842 in NY. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Index | Individual | Descendancy | Register | Pedigree | Download GEDCOM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Printer Friendly Version Search Ancestry Search WorldConnect Join Ancestry.com Today! 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About Us | Contact Us | Acceptable Use Policy | Privacy Statement | Copyright Copyright © 1998-2002, MyFamily.com Inc. and its subsidiaries. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Genie91954@wmconnect.com> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Re: [Ger-Sur] More 1880 US census look ups? Read Carefully!! Pam, I may be confused some. I found Huldah Dibble she married Clark Dibble, so maybe there are two Huldah's, if not maybe she remarried, this one I will have to straighten out for peace of mind.Am getting off here, will check back in morning.. **************************************************************************** ** ******************** Eileen, That's really weird, because I was thinking about the same thing. What part of town did you find them in? Possibility is that DIBBLE is not her maiden name and she married a DIBBLE in New York and had the first child, Jefferson there, came to Michigan and had Joel. Then something like death or divorce happened and she later married Jeremiah B. AUSTIN and had Olive and my 3rd great grandmother - Lydia. Sounds good anyways. lol But on the other hand the first two children last name would not be AUSTIN... :( bummer, I thought I was on a roll.......unless their last name was just assumed by the census taker as being the same or Jeremiah adopted them.. Is there a Sherlock Holmes for hire?? I started with one my grandmother. Then went to my great grandmother. Then my g g grandmother. Finally my g g g grandmother the one I was searching for, Lydia who married a Peter JONES. I didn't know her last name at the time but found out it may be AUSTIN. According to the Census the date of birth match & says her mother was born in New York on one Census and on another it says Michigan. But if I could find out that she married someone named CHAPLE after JONES died then after CHAPLE died married a William BROWN I know I have the right Lydia. I would not have found out Lydia's last name without the help of Jack and Marianne listed below and a lot of other names too. Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/dibean_county.htm. Give them a try, they are great! I didn't even have to ask about some and they responded. That was great! Plus I don't want to forget all of the other kind people who have came to my rescue on my searches. Genealogy can be very rewarding with the help of others. Ok back to the issue: I put Lydia AUSTIN name in familysearch.com and found her parents were Huldah DIBBLE and Jeremiah AUSTIN. They married on 31 Dec 1843 in Fentonville, Genesee, Michigan. However I found Huldah AUSTIN age 40 in the 1850 Fenton Genesee Michigan Census taken 16th day of Sept listed with her children only & not with Jeremiah. Plus her oldest son Jefferson is listed as being 20 years old and born in New York. The second one is 13 and born in Michigan, then Olive 6 years old and finally my Lydia as 3 years old - I am assuming she is since the ages and years match. So question 1 is >> Was Huldah married before with the first two children? If she was married to Jeremiah B. AUSTIN in 1843 she had to of been because she would have only been married to Jeremiah B. AUSTIN 7 years. Question 2 >>>> What happened to Jeremiah B. AUSTIN? There is no place on this Census that list is she was divorced or widowed. Maybe I am getting the hang of this genealogy search. Still I am no detective, rattles my brain.. What do you think? God Bless Pam

<< I live in Maryland and need some information for a place in Michigan. Would anyone know anything about the Genesee Co. Infirmary in Burton Twp. What kind of people did this infirmary incarcerate in the 1920s and where was it located in Burton Twp.? The name of the road is illegible but it looks like it may be Saxasono if that means anything. Would someone on the list help or advise me where I could find the answer to my question? >> *********************** Beverly, The whole of what was BURTON TOWNSHIP, in Genesee County, is now the CITY OF BURTON. The street-name of 'Saxasono' may be SAGINAW Street. We locals could confirm that if you could list several nearby streets to 'Saxasono'. Jim Simpson taybridge@aol.com

Pam, boy, I am glad I am not the only one confused. wonder if by any chance Fredrick and Jeriamah Austin are the same man. Although you said Jerimah B. Austin, so guess that rules that out. It may be a few days that I can get back there, I work every night this week and with the 4th in the middle i may not get there. Fenton is just one town or should say now a city. At the southend there are some stories, police station and the museum, this is what they call Dibbleville. I can't remember all the details but the Dibbles i believe were settled in that area before Fenton became the name of the town-now does that make sense to you?? Our Fenton is growing leaps and bounds but the southend stays the same. Don't know how far away you are, but if you are close and want to come to the museum during the week early day , let me know as I can take you there. Huldah's maiden name was Bailey, then Dibble, Austin and then Olmsted. I will get back there as soon as I can and find more stuff..... A gr. grandddaughter of hers iIknow very well but she is older now and I don't see her much.. Did I see where you metion aan aunt Marjorie?? Bye for now, will be in touch -you too. We have to solve this. You could e-mail me if you want sadiejo@usol.com , the others probably think I have flipped.. Eileen

NO I live in Kentucky. Shame I can't just twitch my nose and be like a genie and just appear at the library or museum. Well I am kinda confused when it comes to Huldah AUSTIN and her first 2 children. I explained how I got to her name. All my information is on a STB (said to be) basis until I can get some kind of certificates. My 3rd g grandmother is Lydia Ann AUSTIN. She married a Peter JONES on 16 Oct 1864. Lydia is listed on the 1900 Census in Mills, Ogemaw Michigan as being Lydia CHAPLE. Which is who she married after JONES died. However it is written on a back of a photo that she also married after CHAPLE died a William BROWN. Still need info. on CHAPLE's drowning. I am having trouble finding her children information. There is a Hattie JONES that I can't find. I think Hattie must be her nickname for Olive. Because she married a (STB) Charley HEATH, but he drowned. Come to find out she married a John HEATH. Guess Charley was a nickname too. Then she married a William Murry BROWN. Finally that information was found , just need proof that Olive Adalade JONES is Hattie. Then theres Emma JONES, who was said to of died an old maid. Then there was Flora Bell JONES. Then I have an uncle who had more information. One of Hattie's daughters Daisy is my g grandmother who raised him from about 2 yrs old. His mother died in a car accident. He said he heard other names like Lafayette. But other names listed on this census is Adda which also could be short for Adalade - another nickname for Hattie. Then there is Eli,Birdie,William T, Liza E. & Joseph L. JONES. Names I do not know. Anyway back to Huldah DIBBLE. I put in a search on familysearch.com and found Huldah DIBBLE and Jeremiah AUSTIN as her parents. That is it. I am going in circles. As you well know from my first email about my suspicion on Huldah DIBBLE and her first two children... what do you think? Am I on the right track? God Bless Pam

Boy that would be great!! I sent you all the information I know of in an earlier email.. I can't believe you know someone with that name. Wonder if she's related somehow.. Keep me informed. I am tickled Pink, Purple, Yellow and what ever other colors I can throw in. God Bless Pam

Pam, I may be confused some. I found Huldah Dibble she married Clark Dibble, so maybe there are two Huldah's, if not maybe she remarried, this one I will have to straighten out for peace of mind.Am getting off here, will check back in morning.. ****************************************************************************** ******************** Eileen, That's really weird, because I was thinking about the same thing. What part of town did you find them in? Possibility is that DIBBLE is not her maiden name and she married a DIBBLE in New York and had the first child, Jefferson there, came to Michigan and had Joel. Then something like death or divorce happened and she later married Jeremiah B. AUSTIN and had Olive and my 3rd great grandmother - Lydia. Sounds good anyways. lol But on the other hand the first two children last name would not be AUSTIN... :( bummer, I thought I was on a roll.......unless their last name was just assumed by the census taker as being the same or Jeremiah adopted them.. Is there a Sherlock Holmes for hire?? I started with one my grandmother. Then went to my great grandmother. Then my g g grandmother. Finally my g g g grandmother the one I was searching for, Lydia who married a Peter JONES. I didn't know her last name at the time but found out it may be AUSTIN. According to the Census the date of birth match & says her mother was born in New York on one Census and on another it says Michigan. But if I could find out that she married someone named CHAPLE after JONES died then after CHAPLE died married a William BROWN I know I have the right Lydia. I would not have found out Lydia's last name without the help of Jack and Marianne listed below and a lot of other names too. Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/dibean_county.htm. Give them a try, they are great! I didn't even have to ask about some and they responded. That was great! Plus I don't want to forget all of the other kind people who have came to my rescue on my searches. Genealogy can be very rewarding with the help of others. Ok back to the issue: I put Lydia AUSTIN name in familysearch.com and found her parents were Huldah DIBBLE and Jeremiah AUSTIN. They married on 31 Dec 1843 in Fentonville, Genesee, Michigan. However I found Huldah AUSTIN age 40 in the 1850 Fenton Genesee Michigan Census taken 16th day of Sept listed with her children only & not with Jeremiah. Plus her oldest son Jefferson is listed as being 20 years old and born in New York. The second one is 13 and born in Michigan, then Olive 6 years old and finally my Lydia as 3 years old - I am assuming she is since the ages and years match. So question 1 is >> Was Huldah married before with the first two children? If she was married to Jeremiah B. AUSTIN in 1843 she had to of been because she would have only been married to Jeremiah B. AUSTIN 7 years. Question 2 >>>> What happened to Jeremiah B. AUSTIN? There is no place on this Census that list is she was divorced or widowed. Maybe I am getting the hang of this genealogy search. Still I am no detective, rattles my brain.. What do you think? God Bless Pam

Hi Beverly I believe that the Genesee County Infirmary was a part of the Genesee County Farm. From an old plat book, I found that it was located in Burton Twp near South Saginaw Street and Hemphill Road. It would have taken care of those who were too ill to care for themselves and had no family or other resources. I do not know of any available Records. I will try tomorrow to see if the Perry Archives at the Sloan Museum may have anything about the infirmary. I believe that the infirmary was eventually replaced by Walter Winchester Hospital, which closed in the 1960's. HTH Richard Richardson ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeverlyQF@aol.com> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: [MIGENESE] Genesee Co. Infirmary in Burton Co. > Hi List: > > I live in Maryland and need some information for a place in Michigan. Would > anyone know anything about the Genesee Co. Infirmary in Burton Twp. What kind > of people did this infirmary incarcerate in the 1920s and where was it > located in Burton Twp.? The name of the road is illegible but it looks like > it may be Saxasono if that means anything. Would someone on the list help or > advise me where I could find the answer to my question? > Thank You. > Beverly > Takoma Park, MD

Hi, I went to the Fenton Museum today as i am the reasearcher. Spent quite awhile searching for the Austins. Did come across Huldah Dibble very interesting..i have a copy of a letter Ruth V. Smith in Colorado wrote to our curator, she was looking for Fred Brwon a decscendant of Huldah's. So here goes.. Huldah Bailey married Clark dibble, shortly after he died she married Fredrick Austin and Fred Brown comes from that marriage, now you figure-why was his name Fred Brown and not Fred Austin? I didn't have tme to spend to look further but will go back another day. Also Huldah married for a third time to Barney Olmsted. Huldah Bailey Dibble, Austin, Olmsted died 22June 1842, Tryone twp. Livingston Co., Michigan. Just a ways from Fenton. Did not find anything on Jeremeah Austin. Joel and Jeffery that were in the cenuses with Huldah may have been Dibbles. Wish i had had more time to stay there. Do you live close to fenton? Hope you aren't more confused now. Eileen Brown

Dear Beverly, I just returned from a long weekend, family reunion. I was born and raised in Genesee County, but have no current knowledge about such a infirmary. In those days Burton was quite small, so if there was such a infirmary place someone must have knowledge of it. You might try the Flint Genealogical Society...someone there may be able to help you. There online address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mifgs/ . Burton is one of the neighboring towns which is part of the Flint Metropolitan Area. Many years ago my paternal grandparents lived in the area which is currently called Burton. In those days their mailing address was Flint. Burton is still part of Genesee County...there is no Burton County in Michigan. Happy Hunting! Carrol in Michigan -----Original Message----- From: BeverlyQF@aol.com [mailto:BeverlyQF@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 11:11 AM To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIGENESE] Genesee Co. Infirmary in Burton Co. Hi List: I live in Maryland and need some information for a place in Michigan. Would anyone know anything about the Genesee Co. Infirmary in Burton Twp. What kind of people did this infirmary incarcerate in the 1920s and where was it located in Burton Twp.? The name of the road is illegible but it looks like it may be Saxasono if that means anything. Would someone on the list help or advise me where I could find the answer to my question? Thank You. Beverly Takoma Park, MD

SkyDancer your answer was "A partridge is a bird!" ******************************************* Hey SkyDancer, good answer you win the prize.....lol God Bless Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Borey Sent: 7/1/2002 5:11:44 AM To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Help me if you can...... > I had a grandmother whose last name was Partridge. Her nickname was > "Birdie" and it had nothing to do with her first name, which was Ethel, > so you might want to consider that possibility. > > >>> jay_ingalls@pipeline.com 06/30/02 01:26PM >>> > My grandmother Alberta was called "Bird" by my grandfather. Maybe > partly because she loved to talk to people. > > And one great-uncle, named Adelbert at birth, was called Delbert and > Bert. > > As usual, spelling is of minor importance in genealogy, but learning > all the possible versions of a name is a big help in tracking people > in the public and family records. > > Anyone that says their name was "always" spelled XXXX needs to take > some genealogy classes! > > Jay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norm and Miriam Midkiff" <kidmiff@juno.com> > To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 29 June, 2002 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Help me if you can...... > > > > > I have one census that has a son > > listed as Birdie. Who in the world would name a son Birdie? > > > > Birdie was an alternate spelling of the nickname "Bertie", which was > > short for Albert, Hubert, etc. It was a common nickname of that > era. > > > > Miriam Midkiff > > Spokane, Washington > > -Original-Sender: SkyDancer@ispwest.com Mon Jul 1 06:31:13 2002

Thanks guys, Don't know what I do without you. But I am afraid to say that this is my family. I still am having troubles proving the parents of Lydia AUSTIN. Only because on the 1880 Census it is listed that her father is from MI and her mother from MI. But on the 1900 Census when she is living with her son and family as being widowed as Lydia CHAPLE it states her father was from Germany and her mother from New York. I was told in an email earlier that the Census should be used as a guide, but it makes it difficult to find out who her parents were so I can make sure this is her. On the Census of 1900 it states that Lydia CHAPLE was born in Aug of 1847 and the 1880 census Lydia JONES age of 32 would make her born in 1848 depending on what month the Census was taken. On the search of familysearch.com I found a Lydia AUSTIN born on 30 Aug 1848. Could this be her? It sounds really close. Then it listed her parents as Jeremiah B. AUSTIN Birth: 1802 and mother as Huldah DIBBLE but found 2 births for her>>> Born : Abt. 1806 in Fentonville, Genesee, Michigan & Born: Abt. 1806 Lawling, Dutchess, New York AUSTIN Marriage: 31 Dec 1843 Fentonville, Genesee, Michigan Ok now it would seem that all the Michigan data fits and that should be correct. However I did a search on Huldah AUSTIN and found her in Fenton Genesee Michigan 16 Sept 1850 Census, it states she was born in New York, also states she is 40 years old making her birth year around 1810. Now this throws off my date of birth for Huldah AUSTIN. Darn those Census! Jerimiah is not listed in the household but four of her children are and one being Lydia age 3.. I think my Lydia. More Confusion: So what happened to Jerimiah AUSTIN? They got married in Michigan in 1843 and he is not listed on the 1850 Census, makes me wonder if Jerimiah AUSTIN is the right marriage only because the ages of children list from 20 to 3 years old. So could the first two could be Jerimiah's children from a previous marriage? or her's since the oldest was born in New York the birth place of Huldah. Is this how genealogy works all the time like a puzzle? This is way too hard on the brain, lol...clutter, clutter, clutter. Thanks and God Bless Pam

Yes, a partridge is a bird. >>> SkyDancer@ispwest.com 07/01/02 08:24AM >>> A partridge is a bird! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Borey Sent: 7/1/2002 5:11:44 AM To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Help me if you can...... > I had a grandmother whose last name was Partridge. Her nickname was > "Birdie" and it had nothing to do with her first name, which was Ethel, > so you might want to consider that possibility. > > >>> jay_ingalls@pipeline.com 06/30/02 01:26PM >>> > My grandmother Alberta was called "Bird" by my grandfather. Maybe > partly because she loved to talk to people. > > And one great-uncle, named Adelbert at birth, was called Delbert and > Bert. > > As usual, spelling is of minor importance in genealogy, but learning > all the possible versions of a name is a big help in tracking people > in the public and family records. > > Anyone that says their name was "always" spelled XXXX needs to take > some genealogy classes! > > Jay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norm and Miriam Midkiff" <kidmiff@juno.com> > To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 29 June, 2002 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Help me if you can...... > > > > > I have one census that has a son > > listed as Birdie. Who in the world would name a son Birdie? > > > > Birdie was an alternate spelling of the nickname "Bertie", which was > > short for Albert, Hubert, etc. It was a common nickname of that > era. > > > > Miriam Midkiff > > Spokane, Washington > >

I had a grandmother whose last name was Partridge. Her nickname was "Birdie" and it had nothing to do with her first name, which was Ethel, so you might want to consider that possibility. >>> jay_ingalls@pipeline.com 06/30/02 01:26PM >>> My grandmother Alberta was called "Bird" by my grandfather. Maybe partly because she loved to talk to people. And one great-uncle, named Adelbert at birth, was called Delbert and Bert. As usual, spelling is of minor importance in genealogy, but learning all the possible versions of a name is a big help in tracking people in the public and family records. Anyone that says their name was "always" spelled XXXX needs to take some genealogy classes! Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm and Miriam Midkiff" <kidmiff@juno.com> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 29 June, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Help me if you can...... > > I have one census that has a son > listed as Birdie. Who in the world would name a son Birdie? > > Birdie was an alternate spelling of the nickname "Bertie", which was > short for Albert, Hubert, etc. It was a common nickname of that era. > > Miriam Midkiff > Spokane, Washington