<<<< Greetings Gang, On one of the Michigan Mailing lists which I am subscribed to someone recently (seems like the past week) inquired about a female they were searching for by the surname of Bliss or Blip. I can't remember which >>>>> ************************ Carroll, Posting #36 contained the query about BLISS or BLIP. I had deleted the posting, but perhaps someone else still has it in their inbox. Alternately, there should be an archive somewhere on RootsWeb that you could search. Jim Simpson taybridge@aol.com

Hi there, Does anyone have any idea where I might find obituaries or other info eg town directories etc for the following individuals from the neighbouring county of Tuscola or perhaps have a look for me? There doesn't appear to be a rootsweb forum for this county? > Surname Given Name Location DOB DOD > WELLINGTON Josiah L Watertown, Tuscola Aged 65 yrs 18 Apr 1895 > WELLINGTON Josiah L Watertown, Tuscola 30-Nov-1906 21-Feb-1991 > WELLINGTON Marie L Watertown, Tuscola 11-Oct-1915 30-Sep-1984 The oldest one born abt 1830 may turn out to be the brother of my Great great grandfather Thomas Millar Wellington who emigrated to Australia in 1853 aboard the ship "Unicorn". His parents were Martin Luther Wellington and Matilda Wellington (nee Millar perhaps Miller). The more recent pair are of interest only a hunch that they may be descended due to the same location and name. any assistance would be great. cheers Ross Wellington from Australia (its a bit far to come and check out the newspapers myself!)

Greetings Gang, On one of the Michigan Mailing lists which I am subscribed to someone recently (seems like the past week) inquired about a female they were searching for by the surname of Bliss or Blip. I can't remember which mailing list it was on since I didn't save the original message. I just discovered that one of my researching cousins, has a great grandmother, Mary M. Bliss in one of her other lines, which I am not related to. Does anyone still have the original message or know who sent it. I would like to connect these two researchers up, incase they can help each other. Carrol in Michigan

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Here are some links which might help you... Genesee County Death Index from 1867 to 1930 http://www.rootsweb.com/~mifgs/ Flint, Michigan Genealogical Cemetery Information http://www.rootsweb.com/~mifgs/cemindex Flint Public Library (810) 232-7111 http://www.flint.lib.mi.us -----Original Message----- From: Janet Hubbard [mailto:mitten@tir.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:29 AM To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name Are you any were near Flint, MI?? If not the Flint Genealogy Society has a web site, sorry I don't know the web address, If you can get to Flint on a Friday afternoon, the Genealogy Society is at the Court House on Friday afternoons and they will give you all the help they can. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Marek" <mareks@ptd.net> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name > Could anyone tell me how to find someone when you don't know their married > name? I'm trying to find out my aunts married name. There was some kind of > scandal and my grandfather had her buried under her maiden name and I've > been unable to find any record of her marriage. She was born and raised in > Swartz Creek and her name was Lillian Elston > Thanks for any help you can give me. There is no one left in the family > that knows anything. > Kathy in Pa >

http://www.rootsweb.com/~mifgs/ Flint Genealogical Society Great site. Wonderful people.

As a general comment to the advice on finding a married name on burial. Even though the surviving family member might not like the outcome and if the burial took place after death certificates became mandatory. The person is NORMALLY buried under their legal name, i.e. the name they had legally at the time of death, no body gets a vote. As an example. my Great grandmother died in St. Louis in 1913. The Cemetery in St. Louis carries her record under her second husbands name, while the tombstone has the name of her first husband, no one in the family liked the 2nd husband so he sort of disappears from the family memory. This is one of the reasons I don't care for cemetery surveys. While on this soapbox, one should always be cautious when dealing with published cemetery surveys. On the average only about 60 percent of burials in any given cemeteries have tombstones, which is normally how these surveys are made. The actual cemetery record is the final resource. Another example all cemeteries have memorial stones, these may not even be over a grave. For example the National Cemeteries have many tombstones where there are no bodies, men and women who were lost during wars, even though their body was never found they still were authorized a tombstone, which would be either placed in a National Cemetery or wherever the family desired. Bill Buchholz Some Data on cemeteries and funeral homes <http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/buchholz.htm> Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Thank you everyone who responded for all the help! That is her death certificate, thank you. Next time I get to Michigan I will get to the Historical Society and Courthouse. Thanks again Kathy in Pa

--WebTV-Mail-10499-342 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit You may already have this info, but I found this on the Genesee Co. Clerk website. It only has marriage data online from 1963. Page: D56 387 Recorded: 06/25/1947Document Type: DEATH CERTIFICATE Deceased: ELSTON , LILLIAN CYNTHIA Date of Death: 06/25/1947 --WebTV-Mail-10499-342 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-2110.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.213.120) by storefull-2273.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:24:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-2110.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 8CDF27FA9; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:24:45 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: babsn@webtv.net Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by smtpin-2110.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 76A327FA0; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K4W3g23809; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:32:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:32:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: mareks@ptd.net Tue Mar 19 21:32:03 2002 Message-ID: <006c01c1cfca$452b65e0$aababacc@ptdprolog.net> From: "Kathleen Marek" <mareks@ptd.net> Old-To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> References: <10.1bae912c.29c7fe33@aol.com> <3C96A788.6F8D7755@cfl.rr.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:46:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name Resent-Message-ID: <NgxE6D.A.yzF.DDBm8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1043 X-Loop: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: MIGENESE-L-request@rootsweb.com Could anyone tell me how to find someone when you don't know their married name? I'm trying to find out my aunts married name. There was some kind of scandal and my grandfather had her buried under her maiden name and I've been unable to find any record of her marriage. She was born and raised in Swartz Creek and her name was Lillian Elston Thanks for any help you can give me. There is no one left in the family that knows anything. Kathy in Pa --WebTV-Mail-10499-342--

You can order the death certificate on-line. It was quick and easy when I did it. Sue D. Sue Crowder Kissel GENTECH 2003 -Ask me about it. Library Day January 16, 2003 Arizona State Capitol January 17-18, 2003 Phoenix, AZ Civic Plaza www.gentech.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Marek" <mareks@ptd.net> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name > Thank you everyone who responded for all the help! That is her death > certificate, thank you. Next time I get to Michigan I will get to the > Historical Society and Courthouse. > Thanks again > Kathy in Pa > > >

I accidently hit send before I was finished...I also wanted to tell you that if you go to the Court House (it is the building which has the old cannons on the lawn.), on Friday, not only will the volunteers help you, but they will make copies of death certificates for you for only $2.00 each...if you go any other day during the week the regular employees charge $10.00 each. I've been wanting to go there for research on a Friday for months, but they have very limited handicapped parking, only 3 spaces at this time, and I have been unable to get my husband to take me on a Friday. (I am unable to walk very far.) Within the past couple of weeks I had to report there for jury duty...due to the continuing new construction, you must enter from the back of the building on Beach Street. (It is on the corners of Beach Street, Court Street, and Saginaw St.) The building is now called Genesee County Circuit Court. I noticed while I was waiting to be picked up that day, that the Vital Records department is on the second floor. I was hoping I would have to return on the next day for Jury Duty (which was a Friday), because then my husband would have to take me..., and I though perhaps I could go over to the Vital Records Dept. for a little while before calling him to pick me up....but unfortunately or luckily depending on your point of view about jury duty, didn't have to return for the second day. Happy Hunting....Carrol in Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Janet Hubbard [mailto:mitten@tir.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:29 AM To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name Are you any were near Flint, MI?? If not the Flint Genealogy Society has a web site, sorry I don't know the web address, If you can get to Flint on a Friday afternoon, the Genealogy Society is at the Court House on Friday afternoons and they will give you all the help they can. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Marek" <mareks@ptd.net> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name > Could anyone tell me how to find someone when you don't know their married > name? I'm trying to find out my aunts married name. There was some kind of > scandal and my grandfather had her buried under her maiden name and I've > been unable to find any record of her marriage. She was born and raised in > Swartz Creek and her name was Lillian Elston > Thanks for any help you can give me. There is no one left in the family > that knows anything. > Kathy in Pa >

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--WebTV-Mail-6967-2 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hi, I live about 4 hours away so it will take a couple of days and some planning. But thank you. I love mysteries. Deb --WebTV-Mail-6967-2 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.213.122) by storefull-2397.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id B91E57FA2; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:51:37 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: deb_brandt@webtv.net Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by smtpin-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id E5C587FAE; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K6SU624395; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:28:30 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:28:30 -0700 X-Original-Sender: mitten@tir.com Tue Mar 19 23:28:30 2002 Message-ID: <000601c1cfd8$748d7e00$541e1ad8@your318ruqz03z> From: "Janet Hubbard" <mitten@tir.com> Old-To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> References: <10.1bae912c.29c7fe33@aol.com> <3C96A788.6F8D7755@cfl.rr.com> <006c01c1cfca$452b65e0$aababacc@ptdprolog.net> Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:28:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <PNunGD.A.88F.OwCm8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1044 X-Loop: MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: MIGENESE-L-request@rootsweb.com Are you any were near Flint, MI?? If not the Flint Genealogy Society has a web site, sorry I don't know the web address, If you can get to Flint on a Friday afternoon, the Genealogy Society is at the Court House on Friday afternoons and they will give you all the help they can. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Marek" <mareks@ptd.net> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name > Could anyone tell me how to find someone when you don't know their married > name? I'm trying to find out my aunts married name. There was some kind of > scandal and my grandfather had her buried under her maiden name and I've > been unable to find any record of her marriage. She was born and raised in > Swartz Creek and her name was Lillian Elston > Thanks for any help you can give me. There is no one left in the family > that knows anything. > Kathy in Pa > --WebTV-Mail-6967-2--

Could anyone tell me how to find someone when you don't know their married name? I'm trying to find out my aunts married name. There was some kind of scandal and my grandfather had her buried under her maiden name and I've been unable to find any record of her marriage. She was born and raised in Swartz Creek and her name was Lillian Elston Thanks for any help you can give me. There is no one left in the family that knows anything. Kathy in Pa

Are you any were near Flint, MI?? If not the Flint Genealogy Society has a web site, sorry I don't know the web address, If you can get to Flint on a Friday afternoon, the Genealogy Society is at the Court House on Friday afternoons and they will give you all the help they can. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Marek" <mareks@ptd.net> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: [MIGENESE] Re: Advice on finding a married name > Could anyone tell me how to find someone when you don't know their married > name? I'm trying to find out my aunts married name. There was some kind of > scandal and my grandfather had her buried under her maiden name and I've > been unable to find any record of her marriage. She was born and raised in > Swartz Creek and her name was Lillian Elston > Thanks for any help you can give me. There is no one left in the family > that knows anything. > Kathy in Pa >

Deb, You need to look at the Genesse county birth, death, marriage, probate, adoption, and other records. Also the state and federal census records. Jay in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: <DKEL3159@aol.com> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 18 March, 2002 9:36 PM Subject: [MIGENESE] HORTON, John....need help to find birth parents 1870s in Burton Twp, MI > Hi, > Anyone for a challenge? My cuz and I are wanting to find our > Great-grandfathers birth parents.... > > Birth Record: Genesee County > Child name: John HORTON > Location: Burton > Date of Birth: Nov. 01, 1877 > Mother: Mary Blip (I was told BLISS) Birthplace: Michigan > Father: Not Given Birthplace: Not Given > Both parents lived in Flint > Adopted parents: Alexander CAMPBELL and Margaret WILKES > > Thank You! > Deb Faith >

----- Original Message ----- From: "GRACE MATHER" <amzgrace@prodigy.net> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Avondale Cemetery > Actually, I want to take photos of family tombstones there if I can find > them. However, thanks for the website too. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RICHARD L HERRICK <RLHerrick@prodigy.net> > To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Avondale Cemetery > > > > Instead of tromping through a cemetery why not try the Flint Genealogical > > Society home page at: > > > > www.rootsweb.com/~mifgs > > > > Just click on the above address and browse the FGS web site for the > cemetery > > data there. > > > > RLH:mtf:20020318 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cheryl Shiveley" <cheryl@siscom.net> > > To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Avondale Cemetery > > > > > > > Grace: > > > > > > If you do go to the Avondale Cemetary would it be possible for you to > get > > > any information on any NEEDHAMs buried there? I know James Thomas > > Needham, > > > Anna Needham for sure are buried there just dont have alot of info. I > > > wonder if they'd be interested in putting it online sometime like in > > > USGENWEB, etc? > > > > > > If its a problem don't worry about it. > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "GRACE MATHER" <amzgrace@prodigy.net> > > > To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:46 PM > > > Subject: [MIGENESE] Avondale Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Could somebody tell me the street(s) around Avondale Cemetery. When I > > was > > > in Flint a couple of weeks ago, someone at the library said it was 5 > > blocks > > > away and I drove around in circles without finding anything that > resembled > > a > > > cemetery. > > > > > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Actually, I want to take photos of family tombstones there if I can find them. However, thanks for the website too. ----- Original Message ----- From: RICHARD L HERRICK <RLHerrick@prodigy.net> To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Avondale Cemetery > Instead of tromping through a cemetery why not try the Flint Genealogical > Society home page at: > > www.rootsweb.com/~mifgs > > Just click on the above address and browse the FGS web site for the cemetery > data there. > > RLH:mtf:20020318 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Shiveley" <cheryl@siscom.net> > To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: [MIGENESE] Avondale Cemetery > > > > Grace: > > > > If you do go to the Avondale Cemetary would it be possible for you to get > > any information on any NEEDHAMs buried there? I know James Thomas > Needham, > > Anna Needham for sure are buried there just dont have alot of info. I > > wonder if they'd be interested in putting it online sometime like in > > USGENWEB, etc? > > > > If its a problem don't worry about it. > > > > Cheryl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "GRACE MATHER" <amzgrace@prodigy.net> > > To: <MIGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:46 PM > > Subject: [MIGENESE] Avondale Cemetery > > > > > > > Could somebody tell me the street(s) around Avondale Cemetery. When I > was > > in Flint a couple of weeks ago, someone at the library said it was 5 > blocks > > away and I drove around in circles without finding anything that resembled > a > > cemetery. > > > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > > >

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